How would Dems vote if Bernie got the nom and Hillary went Indie?

[Old Man Willow]

I realize this wouldn't happen, but what if Bernie ended up getting the nomination, and and an extremely bitter Hillary decided to launch an independent campaign? What % of the Dem vote would each get?

[Gog]

Less than 2% because there's no reason except spite for that to happen, and I seriously doubt Hillary would do that, and she would put the party first.

[Mehmentum]

Clinton would be in a distant third (with the Republican winning, of course).  Running as a third party, essentially handing the election to the Republican, is an incredibly petty thing to do.

[I support Sanders]

I suspect the 25% of Democrats who currently support Bernie Sanders would vote for Bernie, and he'd pick up another 25% over the next year, plus a certain number of loyal Democrats who always vote Democratic. I'd guess Bernie would lock up about 60% of the Democratic vote, and a good number of independent voters, but there would certainly be some conservative/corporatist/establishment/Blue Dog Democrats who would support Hillary just to protest Bernie. From what I've seen on this forum, there appear to be some Clintonites who would vote Republican before voting for Bernie.

[Lyin' Steve]

Why would Hillary think she could beat Bernie in the general if she couldn't beat him in the primary?  Does she think Republicans are going to vote for her?

[Old Man Willow]

Why would Hillary think she could beat Bernie in the general if she couldn't beat him in the primary?  Does she think Republicans are going to vote for her?

As I said, it would be more about her being bitter. I'm not saying it's plausible, I'm just curious as to how Dems would vote.

[Eraserhead]

This is one situation where minorities would actually abandon Clinton for Sanders. I can't imagine she'd perform strongly as an independent at all.

[Figueira]

Democrats would vote for Bernie with the exception of a few people who really, really hate the word socialism (because let's face it, Bernie isn't any more socialist than a lot of Democrats) and a few people who really, really love Hillary.

This wouldn't happen though. I don't think the Democratic establishment would really have a problem supporting Bernie in the general election. They just don't want him to get the nomination because they think he's unelectable. The Republican establishment and Trump are a different story though.

[Kingpoleon]

If Híllary loses by a dozen or so delegates and can claim a situation similar to Florida 2000 in New York:

532: Gov. John Kasich(R-OH)/Sen. Marco Rubio(R-FL) - 48.2%
006: Sen. Bernie Sanders(D-VT)/Mayor Bill De Blasio(D-NY) - 36.1%
Other: 25.6%
Former Sec. Hillary Clinton(D-NY)/Rep. Jared Polis(D-CO) - 24.5%

About half of the Blue Dogs endorse Kasich, a quarter don't endorse anyone, and the rest endorse Clinton. The major New Democrats who don't endorse Hillary are Deval Patrick and Martin O'Malley, while Ron Kind endorses Sanders.

[Ebsy]

If Híllary loses by a dozen or so delegates and can claim a situation similar to Florida 2000 in New York:

532: Gov. John Kasich(R-OH)/Sen. Marco Rubio(R-FL) - 48.2%
006: Sen. Bernie Sanders(D-VT)/Mayor Bill De Blasio(D-NY) - 36.1%
Other: 25.6%
Former Sec. Hillary Clinton(D-NY)/Rep. Jared Polis(D-CO) - 24.5%

About half of the Blue Dogs endorse Kasich, a quarter don't endorse anyone, and the rest endorse Clinton. The major New Democrats who don't endorse Hillary are Deval Patrick and Martin O'Malley, while Ron Kind endorses Sanders.

This is one of the most terrible election maps I have ever seen.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

If Híllary loses by a dozen or so delegates and can claim a situation similar to Florida 2000 in New York:

532: Gov. John Kasich(R-OH)/Sen. Marco Rubio(R-FL) - 48.2%
006: Sen. Bernie Sanders(D-VT)/Mayor Bill De Blasio(D-NY) - 36.1%
Other: 25.6%
Former Sec. Hillary Clinton(D-NY)/Rep. Jared Polis(D-CO) - 24.5%

About half of the Blue Dogs endorse Kasich, a quarter don't endorse anyone, and the rest endorse Clinton. The major New Democrats who don't endorse Hillary are Deval Patrick and Martin O'Malley, while Ron Kind endorses Sanders.

This is one of the most terrible election maps I have ever seen.

it's  one of many by kingpolling, he may be a map poe

[Kingpoleon]

If Híllary loses by a dozen or so delegates and can claim a situation similar to Florida 2000 in New York:

532: Gov. John Kasich(R-OH)/Sen. Marco Rubio(R-FL) - 48.2%
006: Sen. Bernie Sanders(D-VT)/Mayor Bill De Blasio(D-NY) - 36.1%
Other: 25.6%
Former Sec. Hillary Clinton(D-NY)/Rep. Jared Polis(D-CO) - 24.5%

About half of the Blue Dogs endorse Kasich, a quarter don't endorse anyone, and the rest endorse Clinton. The major New Democrats who don't endorse Hillary are Deval Patrick and Martin O'Malley, while Ron Kind endorses Sanders.

This is one of the most terrible election maps I have ever seen.

I'm presuming Hillary has a good reason for going I. She has a floor of eight to ten percent simply because of how much people who like her like her.

Bernie Sanders/Deval Patrick v. Ted Cruz/Joni Ernst

If Cruz picked Thillis, Maryland and possibly North Carolina might go D.

Do you have a reason it's so awful?

[Gog]

If Híllary loses by a dozen or so delegates and can claim a situation similar to Florida 2000 in New York:

532: Gov. John Kasich(R-OH)/Sen. Marco Rubio(R-FL) - 48.2%
006: Sen. Bernie Sanders(D-VT)/Mayor Bill De Blasio(D-NY) - 36.1%
Other: 25.6%
Former Sec. Hillary Clinton(D-NY)/Rep. Jared Polis(D-CO) - 24.5%

About half of the Blue Dogs endorse Kasich, a quarter don't endorse anyone, and the rest endorse Clinton. The major New Democrats who don't endorse Hillary are Deval Patrick and Martin O'Malley, while Ron Kind endorses Sanders.

This is one of the most terrible election maps I have ever seen.

I'm presuming Hillary has a good reason for going I. She has a floor of eight to ten percent simply because of how much people who like her like her.

Bernie Sanders/Deval Patrick v. Ted Cruz/Joni Ernst

If Cruz picked Thillis, Maryland and possibly North Carolina might go D.

Do you have a reason it's so awful?

I doubt Oregon would go blue, but maybe with the Clinton third party.

[Figueira]

I think Hillary Clinton/Thom Tillis might be a winning ticket. 538 EVs maybe?

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This is further proof we need an Atlasjerk board.