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« on: January 28, 2016, 02:25:53 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/28/mike-huckabee-to-attend-donald-trump-event-during-fox-news-debate/?_r=0

So will this win Trump more votes in Iowa?
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2016, 02:27:43 PM »

While this might somewhat legitimize the event, Huck and Santo are also-rans. I doubt this will have much impact.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2016, 02:28:09 PM »

Does this mean they're dropping out yet?
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2016, 02:30:22 PM »

I am amused that Santorum and Huckabee are so enthusiastic to take a strong role in helping bring about the destruction of this country, all because of their desperate last minute attempts at achieving the impossible.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2016, 02:31:13 PM »

With both of them attending, the event just went from bad to worse.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2016, 02:34:15 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2016, 02:50:21 PM »

Nice to see that Trump has found his place with the other chickenhawk losers.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2016, 04:10:26 PM »

I am amused that Santorum and Huckabee are so enthusiastic to take a strong role in helping bring about the destruction of this country, all because of their desperate last minute attempts at achieving the impossible.

After watching the Trump function, and hearing Santorum and Huckabee speak, I have to ask: how is raising money for our veterans somehow leading to the destruction of this country? Say what you will about Trump's campaign and/or his position on various issues, he's absolutely right that we treat our vets badly, and I applaud him (and Mike and Rick and the others) for actually wanting to do something about it.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2016, 04:25:27 PM »

I am amused that Santorum and Huckabee are so enthusiastic to take a strong role in helping bring about the destruction of this country, all because of their desperate last minute attempts at achieving the impossible.

After watching the Trump function, and hearing Santorum and Huckabee speak, I have to ask: how is raising money for our veterans somehow leading to the destruction of this country? Say what you will about Trump's campaign and/or his position on various issues, he's absolutely right that we treat our vets badly, and I applaud him (and Mike and Rick and the others) for actually wanting to do something about it.

You are completely missing the point. Trump's fundraising event doesn't destroy the country. Any veteran fundraising doesn't destroy the country. YES, veterans are highly mistreated by the government. But, Trump is a man whose entire political opinions are fabricated based off of what he knows the most people already think. He believes little to none of what he says to people. He is a bigger flip-flopper than traditional politicians, thus making him worse than a politician. He is a dangerous man, and we don't have any idea what his true intentions for becoming president are. All we know is that he will do anything and say anything to get what he wants. He does not want to make America great again and it seems he just wants to make it more friendly to mega corporations conducting their corrupt business practices. By attending Trump's event, Huckabee and Santorum gave his political stunt a higher level of legitimacy. He didn't want to help veterans, he wanted to quit the debate without looking bad, so he disgracefully used the veterans of this country as his blast shield. Disgusting.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2016, 04:29:58 PM »

Why does Broken System hate veterans?
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2016, 06:02:18 PM »

I am amused that Santorum and Huckabee are so enthusiastic to take a strong role in helping bring about the destruction of this country, all because of their desperate last minute attempts at achieving the impossible.

After watching the Trump function, and hearing Santorum and Huckabee speak, I have to ask: how is raising money for our veterans somehow leading to the destruction of this country? Say what you will about Trump's campaign and/or his position on various issues, he's absolutely right that we treat our vets badly, and I applaud him (and Mike and Rick and the others) for actually wanting to do something about it.

You are completely missing the point. Trump's fundraising event doesn't destroy the country. Any veteran fundraising doesn't destroy the country. YES, veterans are highly mistreated by the government. But, Trump is a man whose entire political opinions are fabricated based off of what he knows the most people already think. He believes little to none of what he says to people. He is a bigger flip-flopper than traditional politicians, thus making him worse than a politician. He is a dangerous man, and we don't have any idea what his true intentions for becoming president are. All we know is that he will do anything and say anything to get what he wants. He does not want to make America great again and it seems he just wants to make it more friendly to mega corporations conducting their corrupt business practices. By attending Trump's event, Huckabee and Santorum gave his political stunt a higher level of legitimacy. He didn't want to help veterans, he wanted to quit the debate without looking bad, so he disgracefully used the veterans of this country as his blast shield. Disgusting.

So let me get this straight. Trump donated a million dollars to the vets, and got a lot of other people to donate large amounts of money, because he wanted to quit the debate without looking bad? So his million bucks was a means of disgracefully using the veterans of this country as a blast shield? I'm sorry, please excuse my ignorance, but you are making no sense whatsoever.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2016, 06:25:30 PM »

I am amused that Santorum and Huckabee are so enthusiastic to take a strong role in helping bring about the destruction of this country, all because of their desperate last minute attempts at achieving the impossible.

After watching the Trump function, and hearing Santorum and Huckabee speak, I have to ask: how is raising money for our veterans somehow leading to the destruction of this country? Say what you will about Trump's campaign and/or his position on various issues, he's absolutely right that we treat our vets badly, and I applaud him (and Mike and Rick and the others) for actually wanting to do something about it.

You are completely missing the point. Trump's fundraising event doesn't destroy the country. Any veteran fundraising doesn't destroy the country. YES, veterans are highly mistreated by the government. But, Trump is a man whose entire political opinions are fabricated based off of what he knows the most people already think. He believes little to none of what he says to people. He is a bigger flip-flopper than traditional politicians, thus making him worse than a politician. He is a dangerous man, and we don't have any idea what his true intentions for becoming president are. All we know is that he will do anything and say anything to get what he wants. He does not want to make America great again and it seems he just wants to make it more friendly to mega corporations conducting their corrupt business practices. By attending Trump's event, Huckabee and Santorum gave his political stunt a higher level of legitimacy. He didn't want to help veterans, he wanted to quit the debate without looking bad, so he disgracefully used the veterans of this country as his blast shield. Disgusting.

So let me get this straight. Trump donated a million dollars to the vets, and got a lot of other people to donate large amounts of money, because he wanted to quit the debate without looking bad? So his million bucks was a means of disgracefully using the veterans of this country as a blast shield? I'm sorry, please excuse my ignorance, but you are making no sense whatsoever.

No, you aren't ignorant in that sense, because you interpreted what I said exactly right. You are, however, blissfully ignorant of the lengths this man is willing to go to get his way.

Let's compare television advertisements vs veteran fundraisers. With a television advertisement, you pay money to television stations. With a veteran fundraiser, you contribute money to veterans who need it. So far, so good. The money was put to much better use. But do we honestly think Trump randomly decided to come up with such a fundraiser out of the pure kindness of his heart? Let's look at the reward. The reward of a television advertisement is maybe gaining a few more supporters from the people who see it. The reward for a veteran fundraiser is a country's respect, instead of going home to his couch and seeming like a wimpy quitter. Out of all of the options Trump had for Thursday night, that option was the one that would cause him to lose the fewest number of supporters. To Trump, those million dollars donated were priceless, as it could very well be the one decision that prevents him from losing Iowa Monday night. An Iowa loss would be devastating to the Trump campaign because so many of his supporters follow him because they want to feel like winners, so it is a must-win for him to get the nomination.

Heck, if you don't believe me, maybe you should believe some of the veterans themselves. A few notable veteran organizations outright denied accepting any funds from Trump because they didn't want to be "used for a political stunt." SillyAmerican, you do not have to believe what I am saying to be true, but it is crazy to deny it of being a likely possibility.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2016, 06:32:25 PM »

I am amused that Santorum and Huckabee are so enthusiastic to take a strong role in helping bring about the destruction of this country, all because of their desperate last minute attempts at achieving the impossible.

After watching the Trump function, and hearing Santorum and Huckabee speak, I have to ask: how is raising money for our veterans somehow leading to the destruction of this country? Say what you will about Trump's campaign and/or his position on various issues, he's absolutely right that we treat our vets badly, and I applaud him (and Mike and Rick and the others) for actually wanting to do something about it.

You are completely missing the point. Trump's fundraising event doesn't destroy the country. Any veteran fundraising doesn't destroy the country. YES, veterans are highly mistreated by the government. But, Trump is a man whose entire political opinions are fabricated based off of what he knows the most people already think. He believes little to none of what he says to people. He is a bigger flip-flopper than traditional politicians, thus making him worse than a politician. He is a dangerous man, and we don't have any idea what his true intentions for becoming president are. All we know is that he will do anything and say anything to get what he wants. He does not want to make America great again and it seems he just wants to make it more friendly to mega corporations conducting their corrupt business practices. By attending Trump's event, Huckabee and Santorum gave his political stunt a higher level of legitimacy. He didn't want to help veterans, he wanted to quit the debate without looking bad, so he disgracefully used the veterans of this country as his blast shield. Disgusting.

So let me get this straight. Trump donated a million dollars to the vets, and got a lot of other people to donate large amounts of money, because he wanted to quit the debate without looking bad? So his million bucks was a means of disgracefully using the veterans of this country as a blast shield? I'm sorry, please excuse my ignorance, but you are making no sense whatsoever.

He himself has described a million dollars as a small amount of money.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2016, 02:00:53 PM »
« Edited: January 30, 2016, 02:10:44 PM by SillyAmerican »

Heck, if you don't believe me, maybe you should believe some of the veterans themselves. A few notable veteran organizations outright denied accepting any funds from Trump because they didn't want to be "used for a political stunt."

Was it a political stunt? Of course it was.

Did it manage to raise six million dollars for various vet organizations? Yes it did.

Did certain veteran organizations choose not to accept funds from Trump? Yes they did.

Will the people who the money helps care about any of this? No they won't.

Trump has been pretty consistant about supporting our vets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojzNUVIHNgU
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2016, 02:57:15 PM »

Heck, if you don't believe me, maybe you should believe some of the veterans themselves. A few notable veteran organizations outright denied accepting any funds from Trump because they didn't want to be "used for a political stunt."

Was it a political stunt? Of course it was.

Did it manage to raise six million dollars for various vet organizations? Yes it did.

Did certain veteran organizations choose not to accept funds from Trump? Yes they did.

Will the people who the money helps care about any of this? No they won't.

Trump has been pretty consistant about supporting our vets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojzNUVIHNgU

If you flip a coin to decide your position on every issue, you are bound to say something sensible every once in awhile. Now, of course Trump's positions aren't random. His positions are handpicked based on what will get him the greatest amount of support. Fabricated, if you will. These are the same positions Trump has stuck to since he entered this race, so it's no surprise that he has been "consistent" about it. But just like Trump is most likely lying about most of his other opinions on the issues, he may be lying here, too. Look, I'm not saying that Trump doesn't care about veterans, but what I am saying is that there's a huge chance that he will do nothing to help veterans if he gets elected as president. An all talk, no action situation.
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