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Question: Who do you support?
#1
Senator Barry M. Goldwater (R-AZ)
 
#2
Senator John C. Fremont (R-CA)
 
#3
Governor W. Mitt Romney (R-MA)
 
#4
Senator George S. McGovern [D-SD]
 
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Representative William Jennings Bryan [D-NE]
 
#6
Vice President Hubert Humphrey [D-MN]
 
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Total Voters: 37

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« on: February 03, 2016, 01:32:50 PM »

With Tilden and Dewey out of the race, it is now down to three candidates in the ring as the race goes west.

Republican Party

States in Play: Arizona, Utah

Other: American Samoa


This cycle is one that most officials consider the biggest sleeper of them all. With Goldwater having the native-son advantage in Arizona, and Romney having the religious advantage in Utah, many are wondering why Fremont is even trying. Nonetheless, the Fremont campaign believes a solid coalition between the moralistic immigrants, moderates, and Native Americans could tip the scales in his favor.

Goldwater is mostly focusing on taking the less religious business wing in Salt Lake away from Romney while Romney hopes to use the lingering Mormon population to his favor in Arizona though neither campaigns are expecting to take both states.

Democratic Party

States in Play: Arizona, Idaho, Utah

With the terrain being mostly unfriendly to urban liberalism, the three candidates are hoping to gain an advantage in other ways: Bryan is hoping to use his passionate but careful biblical populism to make a sway with the more religiously conservative Mormon population in all three states, Humphrey is hoping to use his civil rights record to take the immigrant and Native American votes, and McGovern is focusing on the ranching population as directly as possible, though all of them are emphasizing a more populist approach overall.

The results here are expected to be a toss-up until polls close.
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2016, 01:53:57 PM »

Fremont is a proven winner!
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2016, 07:27:35 PM »

Well, technically all of these candidates are proven losers...
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 08:04:35 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2016, 03:03:34 PM »

This closes in one hour,...and wow are the results for the GOP gonna be weird this time around.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2016, 04:11:38 PM »
« Edited: February 05, 2016, 07:26:31 PM by L.D. Smith »

Closed, putting up maps, will put up the rest later today.

Republican Primary


John Fremont (46.46%)
Barry Goldwater (36.36%)
Mitt Romney (18.18%)

In a turn of events no one could've predicted, Goldwater actually lost Arizona and Romney did not win Utah. However, behind the scenes of what should've been a sleeper lies something entirely different. In Utah, Romney was leading for a long time in the polls, until he made some disparaging remarks about Huntsman to a crowd of conservative Mormons who thought Huntsman too liberal. Naturally, Huntsman endorsed Goldwater and with his clan managed to take a huge slew of should be Romney voters to Goldwater. Ultimately, while Romney still had a significant edge on Mormons, Goldwater managed to pick up a lot of the more business-oriented Mormons and combine that with a significant chunk of the non-Mormon population to put himself over the top. Fremont managed the rest...some in the Romney camp think he spoiled it.

Now in Arizona, Fremont managed to win a lot of the Native American, rural white, and immigrant vote. This combination managed to give him most of Arizona by comfortable margins, except for the Phoenix area, which quite obviously went to Goldwater. Many speculate that Goldwater would've won if he had campaigned a little more. And just like in Utah, the Orthodox Mormon vote ended up splitting between Goldwater and Romney. The FLDS Church however, went to Goldwater, once again thanks to disparaging remarks, different disparaging remarks, but disrapaging remarks nonetheless.



Hubert Humphrey (40%)
George McGovern (33.33%)
William Jennings Bryan (26.66%)

After so many failed attempts early on to push his civil rights record, it seems at last in these past cycles, Humphrey has managed to strike a chord, with his victory in Arizona being another example. However, this record did not necessarily sit well with rural white farmers and ranchers who gave Bryan Apache County, who seemed more open to the concerns of all the working class. Indeed Arizona was mostly a battle between Bryan and Humphrey, with McGovern only taking a miniscule amount from Tuscon.

For the same reasons Bryan won Apache County in Arizona, he won Idaho quite easily too. Only in Boise did he have troubles with McGovern and Humphrey. McGovern did however pull a respectable second everywhere in the West and Panhandle.

In Utah, it was a two way between Humphrey and McGovern in the Northern half who were wary of Bryan's economic policies..except for the Salt Lake City and Park City, both of which went to McGovern by comfortable numbers. In the Southern half, Humphrey managed only a small enclave of immigrants since McGovern cut into that demographic a little, but the battle was almost entirely between McGovern and Bryan for the rural white vote.

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2016, 04:27:05 PM »

You'd think Goldwater would win his home state.
Oh, and Humphrey is having a great comeback!.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2016, 07:28:51 PM »

Wouldn't union working class voters also vote for Humphrey?
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2016, 10:45:57 AM »

Free speech, free soil, free labor, free men, Fremont!
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