Bernie says Super-Delegates should vote with their state

[Blair]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/sanders-warns-super-delegates-against-flipping-for-clinton-221005?cmpid=sf

Speaks for itself; after all the anger over Super-delegates looks like Bernie is counting on them giving him the edge

[Ebsy]

His position is that only Clinton superdelegates in the states he won should switch their votes, and that those in the states he lost should vote for him since obviously he is more electable. A rather odd position intellectually.

[The Other Castro]

Up until the point where a candidate wins a majority of pledged delegates, the supers should stay with their states' winners.

[Old Man Willow]

His position is that only Clinton superdelegates in the states he won should switch their votes, and that those in the states he lost should vote for him since obviously he is more electable. A rather odd position intellectually.

This man is a disgrace.

[IceSpear]

This would result in Hillary netting 169 more delegates.

[Lyin' Steve]

He thinks those ten Hawaii and seventeen Washington superdelegates he wins next week will put him over the edge!

For real though, "the ones in the states I won should vote for me, anything else is unfair because you need to listen to the will of the people.  The ones in the states I lost should also vote for me, you don't need to listen to the will of the people because I'm the only one who can beat Trump in November."

Does he also think all the pledged delegates in the states he won should vote for him?  After all, why should only superdelegates have to listen to, as he interprets it, the will of the people?  Remember he split the pledged delegates ratio 52-48 with Clinton in Michigan, that's 60 delegates not listening to their constituents who clearly voted for Bernie!  Does he think the entire Iowa delegation should have to vote for Hillary?  Missouri?  Illinois?  They split the Illinois delegation evenly, but Hillary won!  How is that fair?

It's a lot easier to talk about superdelegates as some anonymous borg that votes for Hillary, a bunch of democratic "elites" in cloaks.  It gets a lot harder to agree with him when you realize that what he's proposing is forcing Howard Dean, Maggie Hassan and John Hickenlooper to cast their votes for Sanders because he won their states.

P.S. sorry Bernie spammers, posting this doesn't make me a hateful racist who should be banned from Atlas.  Don't even bother trying.

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This would result in Hillary netting 169 more delegates.

what kind of math is this

[IceSpear]

This would result in Hillary netting 169 more delegates.

what kind of math is this

If every superdelegate from a state that voted so far voted for their state's winner, that's what the result would be.

[Lief 🗽]

This guy is really losing it. I think all the fanatical cultist kiddies screaming at his rallies have gone to his head.

[Lyin' Steve]

This would result in Hillary netting 169 more delegates.

what kind of math is this

If every superdelegate from a state that voted so far voted for their state's winner, that's what the result would be.

That's obviously not true.  Hillary has 219 congressmen and governors on her side, a bunch of those would have to switch and I don't even think there are 169 left.

Unless you are starting from 0?

[IceSpear]

This would result in Hillary netting 169 more delegates.

what kind of math is this

If every superdelegate from a state that voted so far voted for their state's winner, that's what the result would be.

That's obviously not true.  Hillary has 219 congressmen and governors on her side, a bunch of those would have to switch and I don't even think there are 169 left.

Unless you are starting from 0?

Yeah, I was starting from 0. Ex: IA/NH each have 8 superdelegates, net of 0. NV has 8 and SC has 6, Hillary +14. Etc. etc.

[Blair]

I assume that not every congressman/senator/governor is a super-delegate right?

[Ebsy]

I assume that not every congressman/senator/governor is a super-delegate right?

All of the US Representatives, US Senators, and Governors elected as Democrats are superdelegates, along with all of the DNC members from each state and several people classified as "distinguished party leaders."

[Lyin' Steve]

I assume that not every congressman/senator/governor is a super-delegate right?

All of the US Representatives, US Senators, and Governors elected as Democrats are superdelegates, along with all of the DNC members from each state and several people classified as "distinguished party leaders."

Distinguished party leaders appears to be former presidents (Carter, Clinton, Obama), VPs (Biden, Gore, Mondale), DNC chairmen (Dean, Dodd, Rendell), and congressional majority leaders (Gephardt, Daschle, Mitchell) as well as some one-offs like 90-year-old Roy Romer.

What a bunch of Clinton hacks, this is so rigged for Clinton.  Why does Jimmy Carter's vote count for the presidency of his party count for more than mine?

[ProgressiveCanadian]

I assume that not every congressman/senator/governor is a super-delegate right?

All of the US Representatives, US Senators, and Governors elected as Democrats are superdelegates, along with all of the DNC members from each state and several people classified as "distinguished party leaders."

HA! Democracy in action.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I'm starting to think that the physical demands of campaigning are starting to take a toll on the old codger's mind.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

Just goes to show that it's easy to be "principled" when you don't have to do anything, but once you start running or get elected, purism is unrealistic and you have to play the game.


Bernie's a politician, not Jesus Christ. Surprise!

[Lyin' Steve]

Just goes to show that it's easy to be "principled" when you don't have to do anything, but once you start running or get elected, purism is unrealistic and you have to play the game.


Bernie's a politician, not Jesus Christ. Surprise!

It's easy to be principled when the principles are in your favor.
When being principled means you would lose the election, change your principles.

[Likely Voter]

BTW, almost half of the super delegates who have expressed support for Sanders (from states that have voted) are from states that Clinton won. I assume tomorrow the Sanders campaign will send out a press release asking them to switch their votes to Clinton.

[Blair]

I assume that not every congressman/senator/governor is a super-delegate right?

All of the US Representatives, US Senators, and Governors elected as Democrats are superdelegates, along with all of the DNC members from each state and several people classified as "distinguished party leaders."

Distinguished party leaders appears to be former presidents (Carter, Clinton, Obama), VPs (Biden, Gore, Mondale), DNC chairmen (Dean, Dodd, Rendell), and congressional majority leaders (Gephardt, Daschle, Mitchell) as well as some one-offs like 90-year-old Roy Romer.

What a bunch of Clinton hacks, this is so rigged for Clinton.  Why does Jimmy Carter's vote count for the presidency of his party count for more than mine?

You know why his vote counts more