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« on: October 29, 2016, 08:42:30 AM »

If McMullin wins Utah, we can have a scenario in which there is no winner in the EC



Trump 269
Clinton 263
McMullin 6
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2016, 08:43:15 AM »

Here we go with the Wisconsin meme again.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2016, 08:59:28 AM »

Freiwal - CO + NV seems most likely to me
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2016, 09:02:54 AM »

Here we go with the Wisconsin meme again.

and Nevada....


AYYYY LMAO
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2016, 09:04:02 AM »


Yep. Even though even after the RNC convention bounce (Trump's best time), he NEVER led in a Wisconsin poll, but people think he'll win it because #muhWhites. Please.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2016, 09:09:23 AM »

If McMullin wins Utah, we can have a scenario in which there is no winner in the EC



Trump 269
Clinton 263
McMullin 6
Swap WI with CO and it makes much more sense.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2016, 09:16:11 AM »


Yep. Even though even after the RNC convention bounce (Trump's best time), he NEVER led in a Wisconsin poll, but people think he'll win it because #muhWhites. Please.

What is with the fascination and compulsion with some people who want to produce maps with a tied situation, or with a map showing no EC winner ?
I don't get it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2016, 09:41:11 AM »

If McMullin wins Utah, we can have a scenario in which there is no winner in the EC



Trump 269
Clinton 263
McMullin 6
Swap WI with CO and it makes much more sense.

Yes. CO goes before WI.
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2016, 09:47:33 AM »


Yep. Even though even after the RNC convention bounce (Trump's best time), he NEVER led in a Wisconsin poll, but people think he'll win it because #muhWhites. Please.

What is with the fascination and compulsion with some people who want to produce maps with a tied situation, or with a map showing no EC winner ?
I don't get it.

I would assume people like it because it would be kind of an election oddity. Plus, people tend to panic when something like the email scandal that wasn't come out in the news. 
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2016, 10:26:15 AM »

What is with the fascination and compulsion with some people who want to produce maps with a tied situation . . . ?

I don't know why others do this, but as for me . . .

On election night, I like to start with a projection of what I believe to be the most likely tie scenario.  This places the candidates on an equal footing, and it's easy for me to see the impact of each call.  If they come on at 6:00 and tell me Trump has won Indiana, I leave my projection at 269-269--but if they tell me Clinton has won Indiana, I change my projection to 280-258.

I like this better than looking at totals that are more about poll-closing times than anything else.
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2016, 10:49:01 AM »



Trump-Pence (R)  268 EV
Clinton-Kaine (D) 264 EV
McMullin-Finn (I)  6 EV

This, I believe, is a highly likely outcome in this unbelievable election.

Such a scenario will beg other questions.  One of which is who McMullin's electors will actually cast their ballot for.  If they cast their votes for McMullin, the House will likely elect Trump.  If they cast their votes for some Republican with a following, all bets would be off.

Then, too, would be the fact that Hillary Clinton is likely to win the popular vote, probably by 3 points.  This will put a number of Republicans on the spot in districts that carry for Hillary, or in states that carry for Hillary.  If they are in purple districts, their independent and Democratic supporters, few that they may be, may not take it well that they vote for someone who lost the popular vote.  Some may defect, and their defections may shift the balance of a state's delegation, which would be YUGE in this process.

The drama will compare to 2000 as Pee Wee's Big Adventure compares to Gone With the Wind.  There will be a Constitutional Crisis of some magnitude.  I do believe that the final outcome of all of this will be a consensus to end the EC.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2016, 12:10:42 PM »

If you want the EC gone for sure within 10 years, you want this to be the election result, especially with Trump fanning the flames of vote-rigging conspiracies:



Trump/Pence 48.2% 261 EV
Clinton/Kaine 46.0% 271 EV
McMullin/Finn 1.1%  6 EV

Basically, assume there is both a Shy Trump effect with white voters and an unprecedented surge in Hispanic turnout at once.  That would be the end of the EC.
This would never happen.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2016, 02:09:05 PM »

OK. This map is better than the one that started this thread

Trump 268, Hillary 264, McMullin 6

According to 538, the probability of Trump winning Wisconsin is 15.3%, the probability of Trump winning Colorado is 15.9% and the probability of Trump winning Nevada is 35.9%
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2016, 04:31:15 PM »

This could possibly happen, but as others have said, Colorado is more likely to be Republican then Wisconsin.
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2016, 09:01:52 PM »

Well, the Wisconsin meme
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2016, 09:38:22 PM »

Here we go with the Wisconsin meme again.

sorry dude
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2016, 10:08:53 PM »

#RIPTheWisconsinMeme
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2016, 10:58:46 PM »

Funny that people thought there was a much better chance of McMullin winning Utah than Trump winning Wisconsin.
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2016, 12:39:03 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2016, 12:48:46 PM by Axel Foley »

Give Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin to Clinton on the real map...and on a practical way, with MI still too close too call, are there some possibilities in regard to AZ and WI?
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2016, 01:21:21 PM »


I have already forsaken the entire Midwest, don't worry.
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