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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2017, 12:26:45 PM »

When the Republican Party becomes an urban conservative party able to espouse technocratic-conservative ideas that have an appeal in urban areas and liberal areas. In other words, when New England becomes competitive, the GOP will probably have shifted to resuming being a center-right technocratic Northern party without notable evangelical support (which, to be blunt, will have died out).

Nice try bud.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2015/may/pew-evangelicals-stay-strong-us-religious-landscape-study.html
Evangelical churches in the Pew study only declined at a SLOWER rate than Mainlines and Catholics.  However, it is important to remember that in the 1970s and 1980s, Mainline churches were still a staple of the American religious landscape and were only slightly declining.  The rapid decline didn't begin until the 1990s.

Evangelical churches today are where Mainlines were in the mid-1970s.  The decline of Evangelical churches won't be noticeable until the late 2020s or so.
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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2017, 12:28:05 PM »

When the Republican Party becomes an urban conservative party able to espouse technocratic-conservative ideas that have an appeal in urban areas and liberal areas. In other words, when New England becomes competitive, the GOP will probably have shifted to resuming being a center-right technocratic Northern party without notable evangelical support (which, to be blunt, will have died out).

Nice try bud.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2015/may/pew-evangelicals-stay-strong-us-religious-landscape-study.html
Evangelical churches in the Pew study only declined at a SLOWER rate than Mainlines and Catholics.  However, it is important to remember that in the 1970s and 1980s, Mainline churches were still a staple of the American religious landscape and were only slightly declining.  The rapid decline didn't begin until the 1990s.

Evangelical churches today are where Mainlines were in the mid-1970s.  The decline of Evangelical churches won't be noticeable until the late 2020s or so.


Dude, it's not inevitable...?
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2017, 12:30:37 PM »

When the Republican Party becomes an urban conservative party able to espouse technocratic-conservative ideas that have an appeal in urban areas and liberal areas. In other words, when New England becomes competitive, the GOP will probably have shifted to resuming being a center-right technocratic Northern party without notable evangelical support (which, to be blunt, will have died out).

Nice try bud.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2015/may/pew-evangelicals-stay-strong-us-religious-landscape-study.html
Evangelical churches in the Pew study only declined at a SLOWER rate than Mainlines and Catholics.  However, it is important to remember that in the 1970s and 1980s, Mainline churches were still a staple of the American religious landscape and were only slightly declining.  The rapid decline didn't begin until the 1990s.

Evangelical churches today are where Mainlines were in the mid-1970s.  The decline of Evangelical churches won't be noticeable until the late 2020s or so.


Dude, it's not inevitable...?
The Southern Baptist Convention's membership has been declining since 2006, and the decline has been gaining steam within the past 2-3 years or so.

The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod's membership hasn't seen any increase in the membership rolls since 1997, and the decline seems to slightly increase every year.

Just to name two notable examples.
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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2017, 12:34:15 PM »

When the Republican Party becomes an urban conservative party able to espouse technocratic-conservative ideas that have an appeal in urban areas and liberal areas. In other words, when New England becomes competitive, the GOP will probably have shifted to resuming being a center-right technocratic Northern party without notable evangelical support (which, to be blunt, will have died out).

Nice try bud.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2015/may/pew-evangelicals-stay-strong-us-religious-landscape-study.html
Evangelical churches in the Pew study only declined at a SLOWER rate than Mainlines and Catholics.  However, it is important to remember that in the 1970s and 1980s, Mainline churches were still a staple of the American religious landscape and were only slightly declining.  The rapid decline didn't begin until the 1990s.

Evangelical churches today are where Mainlines were in the mid-1970s.  The decline of Evangelical churches won't be noticeable until the late 2020s or so.


Dude, it's not inevitable...?
The Southern Baptist Convention's membership has been declining since 2006, and the decline has been gaining steam within the past 2-3 years or so.

The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod's membership hasn't seen any increase in the membership rolls since 1997, and the decline seems to slightly increase every year.

Just to name two notable examples.

Yes, those are current trends.  No trend lasts forever, and history is riddled with examples of religiosity coming and going, the Great Awakening being a great example.  If you're going to say some cliched thing like "as science advances," well I don't but that at all.  A scientific discovery that actually lends any type of credence to the idea of a God (e.g., the Big Bang in the early Twentieth Century) actually usually causes an uptick in belief (I remember seeing that a higher percentage of scientists were sure atheists in the late Nineteenth Century - likely because of the prevalence of Steady State Theory - than are today, for example).
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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2017, 12:50:58 PM »

Conservative Christianity will stop declining because of immigration.  This is why I predict an anti-religion/anti-immigrant movement to rise in the west.
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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2017, 02:57:21 PM »

When the Republican Party becomes an urban conservative party able to espouse technocratic-conservative ideas that have an appeal in urban areas and liberal areas. In other words, when New England becomes competitive, the GOP will probably have shifted to resuming being a center-right technocratic Northern party without notable evangelical support (which, to be blunt, will have died out).

Nice try bud.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2015/may/pew-evangelicals-stay-strong-us-religious-landscape-study.html

Yeah, look at this: 9% of voters in 2000 had no religious belief while 5% had "other" as a religious faith; in 2016, that number had risen to 15% for no religion and 7% for other. Those who attended services went from 42% to 33% in the same time period. Younger millenial voters are less evangelical and less religious than their elders.

Evangelicals might stay stable but the secular folks are going to only grow. The GOP will need to start winning their votes (and Trump has begun to try that).
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