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« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2017, 08:53:33 PM »

I don't normally trust polls from this early on.  But this is bad for Warren.  After all, Trump isn't exactly the most popular person in America right now.

Morning Consult and Rasmussen have been the two polling outlets that have been consistently showing Trump with net positive favorables.



So all of a sudden it's dems that are the ones that don't trust polls? 0-o

Thats what I said, good job! /s

No dummy, I'm just saying Morning Consult shows Trump more popular than most.
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« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2017, 10:13:42 PM »

The "Turn Liz Warren into a Feminist Icon #ShePersisted" playbook is a smart one.
2016 made it clear that Americans reject SJW identity politics


No, there's no evidence that "SJW identity politics" had any impact whatsoever.

No but its clear by now it only appeals to a small minority of hardcore Dems who get super self righteous about it. Like the religious right of our party. These people need to be expunged.

Well it depends on what exactly you're referring to. Obviously people who are outright antagonistic towards white people are not helping (although I'm skeptical that they really had an impact) but that doesn't mean we need to abandon all social liberalism.
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« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2017, 10:22:06 PM »

That shows "True Progressivism" is not popular with Americans

That's why Bernie Sanders ran/runs insanely well in the exact same type of polls against the exact same candidate
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« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2017, 11:53:13 PM »

That shows "True Progressivism" is not popular with Americans

That's why Bernie Sanders ran/runs insanely well in the exact same type of polls against the exact same candidate


Yeah you know who actually did the best against Trump in the general election during the primaries? Hillary Clinton. At one point she was leading Trump by 18 points back in April of last year. I haven't seen a poll where Bernie Sanders did that well. Oh yeah and let's not forget that a majority of democrats voted against him in the primaries last year. 57 percent for Clinton to 43 percent for Sanders so yeah he couldn't even beat one of the most unpopular candidates in history so I don't think his ideas are that popular even to most democrats
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« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2017, 12:17:12 AM »

That shows "True Progressivism" is not popular with Americans

That's why Bernie Sanders ran/runs insanely well in the exact same type of polls against the exact same candidate


Yeah you know who actually did the best against Trump in the general election during the primaries? Hillary Clinton. At one point she was leading Trump by 18 points back in April of last year. I haven't seen a poll where Bernie Sanders did that well. Oh yeah and let's not forget that a majority of democrats voted against him in the primaries last year. 57 percent for Clinton to 43 percent for Sanders so yeah he couldn't even beat one of the most unpopular candidates in history so I don't think his ideas are that popular even to most democrats

Here you go, buddy:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
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« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2017, 01:03:49 AM »
« Edited: February 16, 2017, 01:07:43 AM by Devout Centrist »

The "Turn Liz Warren into a Feminist Icon #ShePersisted" playbook is a smart one.
2016 made it clear that Americans reject SJW identity politics

Why, the one who used identity politics won.

But yeah, we need Al Franken
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« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2017, 02:38:11 AM »

I like Warren a lot.  The problem for Democrats is the next election is going to be a contest between personalities over policies like the last one was.  Any woman who runs will be subjected to the same sexist character attacks they used last election and people now would find her too intimidating and #persistent because sexism creates the narrative.  Warren's also not the best orator for the audience Democrats need to speak to.  It's wrong and it's sad but these are types of hurdles female politicians always need to jump through

This poll shouldn't be looked into much, though.

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« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2017, 03:51:48 AM »

I like Warren a lot.  The problem for Democrats is the next election is going to be a contest between personalities over policies like the last one was.  Any woman who runs will be subjected to the same sexist character attacks they used last election and people now would find her too intimidating and #persistent because sexism creates the narrative.  Warren's also not the best orator for the audience Democrats need to speak to.  It's wrong and it's sad but these are types of hurdles female politicians always need to jump through

This poll shouldn't be looked into much, though.

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I'd argue that having a woman on top of the ticket is bad. But the orator comment is so spot-on. Warren would be a great Senate Majority Leader but her speech skills are not all that great. Warren could be a good VP candidate too, but that doesn't mean the Democrats don't have good women. In their ranks who could be President because they do
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« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2017, 06:09:04 AM »

Still early.
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« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2017, 06:44:41 AM »

I like Warren a lot.  The problem for Democrats is the next election is going to be a contest between personalities over policies like the last one was.  Any woman who runs will be subjected to the same sexist character attacks they used last election and people now would find her too intimidating and #persistent because sexism creates the narrative.  Warren's also not the best orator for the audience Democrats need to speak to.  It's wrong and it's sad but these are types of hurdles female politicians always need to jump through

This poll shouldn't be looked into much, though.

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No, it will be politics vs politics contest because Donald Trump is the incumbent president, which makes him a politician himself.
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« Reply #60 on: February 18, 2017, 05:36:15 PM »

That shows "True Progressivism" is not popular with Americans
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« Reply #61 on: February 18, 2017, 08:45:10 PM »

Remember that early polls showed that Clinton had an astounding edge against any generic R by 15-22 points in 2013. What happened next?
After all, early polls don't indicate anything that will happen in 2020. Of course I prefer Kamala Harris/Kirsten Gillibrand more.
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« Reply #62 on: February 19, 2017, 12:24:31 AM »

Still 3 years away
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