'Sanders pressurizing bank for loan' turns out as a fake political attack

[Shadows]

"There's no way I'd file a complaint or anything like that," said Vermont House Minority Leader Don Turner (R-Milton) , who has not previously been identified as Toensing's source. "They said that they were aware or had heard that Bernie's office had helped get that loan — and that was it," said Turner. "It was just a hearsay, general conversation.""I have never said I had any knowledge or evidence or anything," said Turner, adding that he has not been contacted by federal investigators. Daniel Johnson, a senior vice president for commercial lending at People's United, said Friday that he remembered dining with Turner and NBT Bank commercial banking manager Rob Roy in Montpelier, but he couldn't recall what they discussed. "We got together. It was lunch. I don't remember our conversation, frankly, what it was about. It was just light, general stuff." Johnson did not join People’s United until October 2014 — years after the bank loaned Burlington College $6.5 million to buy a new campus on North Avenue.

But Toensing, who confirmed to Seven Days Friday that Turner was his source, declined to retract his charge. "I stand by what I have said based on what I was told." "This revelation proves what most already knew. Brady Toensing, who was Trump’s Vermont campaign manager, is a right-wing hack trying to impugn Bernie Sanders with no foundation whatsoever," Weaver said, referring to Toensing's service as President Donald Trump's 2016 state campaign chair. "He’s the kind of guy that if he told you it wasn’t raining, you’d look outside to see if you needed an umbrella."

https://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2017/06/30/vermont-gop-official-disputes-claim-that-sanders-pressured-bank

[Hindsight was 2020]

But jfern and other hardcore bernie supporters still act like Hillary is their real enemy

[The_Doctor]

If the Bernie and Jane Sanders thing was false why are they under FBI investigation? And who are these people at this site?

[Mr. Morden]

I always make sure my bank is pressurized before making a withdrawal at high altitude.

[Shadows]

If the Bernie and Jane Sanders thing was false why are they under FBI investigation? And who are these people at this site?

FBI has never said they are investigating this. Even if they are (which is likely), there is nothing it to show Bernie Sanders is personally under investigation. And it is looking more likely that they can do nothing to tie Bernie Sanders to this despite the political hackery & mud-slinging fake attacks !

And besides when does someone being investigation (Jane or otherwise), mean something is true or false. Do people under investigation automatically become guilty before the FBI even renders their verdict of guilty or innocent !

[Virginiá]

I always make sure my bank is pressurized before making a withdrawal at high altitude.

Somehow I made it to your post without noticing that was in the title

[Crumpets]

If the Bernie and Jane Sanders thing was false why are they under FBI investigation? And who are these people at this site?

FBI has never said they are investigating this. Even if they are (which is likely), there is nothing it to show Bernie Sanders is personally under investigation. And it is looking more likely that they can do nothing to tie Bernie Sanders to this despite the political hackery & mud-slinging fake attacks !

And besides when does someone being investigation (Jane or otherwise), mean something is true or false. Do people under investigation automatically become guilty before the FBI even renders their verdict of guilty or innocent !

1. The FBI does not render verdicts, simply recommend indictment or not.

2. Apparently, yes:

When everything comes out, parts of this foundation will go down as a money laundering scheme & a hub for corruption.

Hillary does worse the more people pay attention.

This is true. She is a WC lier & possibly the most corrupt person to run for President. She is crooked Hillary to be honest & who knows may end up in jail.!

I'm a bit curious here. What on earth are supposedly informed people on this board basing these ridiculous ideas that Clinton has committed some high crime on? Her predecessors did exactly the same thing.

Colin Powell made 1-2 emails from his gmail account. Hillary made a whole freaking Server of Clintonemail where she handled 1000's of Classified emails, some of which are "Top Secret" & can't be released. Some emails talk about throwing governments & so on & she claims all these 1000 or so emails plus the Top-Secret stuff were termed classified later.

To create a private server she may have given her password to her staffer which if she did is a direct violation & game over.

Her staff Bryan Pagliano who pleaded the 5th got immunity in this criminal investigation which many times when someone could be indicted, whether her or her staff. You don't throw around immunity.

Already Classified stuff were found in the account of Huma Abeddin or whatever her name is. This account was co-incidentally hacked by an online hacker. The hacker said he read Clinton's emails while gardening & for fun & this hacker exposed the clintonemail stuff.

The hacker has since been extradited. She also wiped her sever clean, deleted some 30,000 emails & then handed it to the FBI claiming those were personal emails. She did not discuss with the FBI or show them any of these emails while doing it. The FBI has recovered quite a section of these emails.

There is enough material there. The FBI has now called to interrogate 4 of Clinton's aides who have now gone for a "Common" lawyer so that they give the "same" story. Clinton may not be indicted but if anyone things this is a small thing, they are just being dumb,

There is enough material in there for here to live as a disgraced politician for the rest of her life with the indictment n everything.

But Obama DOJ won't. But if news of her being guilty comes before the Convention (leak), the Dems have to throw her under a bus & get a new person as nominee regardless of Obama pardoning her.

None of the above.

A recommendation by the FBI that she should be indicted, now that might put a damper on her campaign. (Although I think a certain percentage of Hillary Clinton supporters would vote for her even if she was behind bars. God Bless America!)

Not just a damper it would destroy her legacy - She will live a disgraced politician, disliked almost universally. History will remember her as a fraud - And the Dems will get a new candidate.

Anyways I voted Worst SOS - Can never forgive her for Libya!

[Shadows]

If the Bernie and Jane Sanders thing was false why are they under FBI investigation? And who are these people at this site?

FBI has never said they are investigating this. Even if they are (which is likely), there is nothing it to show Bernie Sanders is personally under investigation. And it is looking more likely that they can do nothing to tie Bernie Sanders to this despite the political hackery & mud-slinging fake attacks !

And besides when does someone being investigation (Jane or otherwise), mean something is true or false. Do people under investigation automatically become guilty before the FBI even renders their verdict of guilty or innocent !

1. The FBI does not render verdicts, simply recommend indictment or not.

2. Apparently, yes:

When everything comes out, parts of this foundation will go down as a money laundering scheme & a hub for corruption.

Hillary does worse the more people pay attention.

This is true. She is a WC lier & possibly the most corrupt person to run for President. She is crooked Hillary to be honest & who knows may end up in jail.!

I'm a bit curious here. What on earth are supposedly informed people on this board basing these ridiculous ideas that Clinton has committed some high crime on? Her predecessors did exactly the same thing.

Colin Powell made 1-2 emails from his gmail account. Hillary made a whole freaking Server of Clintonemail where she handled 1000's of Classified emails, some of which are "Top Secret" & can't be released. Some emails talk about throwing governments & so on & she claims all these 1000 or so emails plus the Top-Secret stuff were termed classified later.

To create a private server she may have given her password to her staffer which if she did is a direct violation & game over.

Her staff Bryan Pagliano who pleaded the 5th got immunity in this criminal investigation which many times when someone could be indicted, whether her or her staff. You don't throw around immunity.

Already Classified stuff were found in the account of Huma Abeddin or whatever her name is. This account was co-incidentally hacked by an online hacker. The hacker said he read Clinton's emails while gardening & for fun & this hacker exposed the clintonemail stuff.

The hacker has since been extradited. She also wiped her sever clean, deleted some 30,000 emails & then handed it to the FBI claiming those were personal emails. She did not discuss with the FBI or show them any of these emails while doing it. The FBI has recovered quite a section of these emails.

There is enough material there. The FBI has now called to interrogate 4 of Clinton's aides who have now gone for a "Common" lawyer so that they give the "same" story. Clinton may not be indicted but if anyone things this is a small thing, they are just being dumb,

There is enough material in there for here to live as a disgraced politician for the rest of her life with the indictment n everything.

But Obama DOJ won't. But if news of her being guilty comes before the Convention (leak), the Dems have to throw her under a bus & get a new person as nominee regardless of Obama pardoning her.

None of the above.

A recommendation by the FBI that she should be indicted, now that might put a damper on her campaign. (Although I think a certain percentage of Hillary Clinton supporters would vote for her even if she was behind bars. God Bless America!)

Not just a damper it would destroy her legacy - She will live a disgraced politician, disliked almost universally. History will remember her as a fraud - And the Dems will get a new candidate.

Anyways I voted Worst SOS - Can never forgive her for Libya!

Most of that is fully correct . The FBI did say that she mishandled classified information in her own server which was unprecedented. There was no "precedent" however to charge her. You had Comey organizing a press conference (rightfully or wrongly) to blast her for her actions. And I don't how this is even relevant. Would you call Hillary a philandered & molester for the actions of Bill?

Jane Sanders is not running for political office. Bernie Sanders is & there is nothing to say that he is under FBI investigation like HRC was (which doesn't make him guilty either but if Bernie was indicted by the FBI & if he was the nominee, I am sure most Bernie supporter would feel he should step down & Democrats should get a new nominee).