Newton was attacked by Christians. Darwin still is. So i now give you another
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MissCatholic
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« on: August 19, 2005, 12:14:23 PM »

Michael Faraday was born in 1791 and died 1867. He was a son of a blacksmith and one of the greatest scientists ever. Like Newton and Darwin he was another one of these great scientists that was attacked by Christians.

Faraday's greatest contribution to science was in the field of electricity.

In 1821 he began experimenting with electromagnetism and by demonstrating the conversion of electrical energy into motive force, invented the electric motor.

In 1831 Faraday discovered the induction of electric currents and made the first dynamo.

In 1837 he demonstrated that electrostatic force consists of a field of curved lines of force, and conceived a specific inductive capacity. This led to Faraday being able to develop his theories on light and gravitational systems.

Faradays study of electricity introduced the modern world to energy. He believed that light was energy. Christians attacked his work on light, energy and electricity as it opened up the Pandoras box on creationism. Faraday was condemned by the Roman Catholic Church and various priests in england. His work was the beginning of E=MC^2 - this led to scientists understanding the big bang theory and bringing more questions to creationism.

If you are a brilliant scientist. then watch out as Christians are watching you.

Isaac Newton.
Michael Faraday
Charles Darwin
 
Three scientists that gave the world their ideas and has allowed the world to progress into a much better place. We understand far more about how the universe operates yet Christians continue to believe in the fairytale.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2005, 12:38:07 PM »

This is why the Democrats won't be getting back into power for a long, long time.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2005, 12:45:39 PM »

This is why the Democrats won't be getting back into power for a long, long time.

because we defend science?
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2005, 12:46:27 PM »

This is why the Democrats won't be getting back into power for a long, long time.

Because of a post on a message board?

Anyway, Miss Catholic is right. Many scientists have been demonized for their findings by religious groups throughout history. I don't know how you can dispute that.
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2005, 12:57:37 PM »

This is why the Democrats won't be getting back into power for a long, long time.

because we defend science?

No, because you bash all Christians because of the actions of a few of the more extreme ones. It's true that many scientists were persecuted for their statements(Galileo comes to mind), however you need to realize that going around and bashing Christians(especially TODAY'S Christians, who had nothing to do with what went on in the 1820's) is not productive and isn't getting you any of them as friends. Christians make up 80% of this nation's population - do you think little rants like this are going to get them to vote for your side? Do you honestly believe that this kind of crap is going to get them to vote for you? The attitude of Democrats like you disgust many Christians and keep them from wanting to vote Democrat.

You want to know a better way to go about defending science than saying things like "Christians are idiots who believe in fairytales!" - prove your science right, then don't gloat once you have. Being a bitch isn't ever going to win them over.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2005, 01:01:49 PM »

Newton was a Christian.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2005, 01:36:45 PM »



So, does that mean Miss Catholic is against herself?  hahaha

Yet another stupid rant which harms her level of respect on the forum.  Fortunately, she doesn't speak for the majority of Democrats.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2005, 01:41:13 PM »

Yet another stupid rant which harms her level of respect on the forum.  Fortunately, she doesn't speak for the majority of Democrats.

Unfortunately, extremists often do make things harder for the moderates. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2005, 01:42:15 PM »

Being pro-science makes you an extremist?

Your political correctness is inane, "Not all of these people are against science".
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2005, 01:43:22 PM »

Being pro-science makes you an extremist?

No. I'm pro-science, but in advocating science I don't go on extreme rants about how stupid Christians are.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2005, 01:48:24 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2005, 01:52:58 PM by phknrocket1k »

Being pro-science makes you an extremist?

No. I'm pro-science, but in advocating science I don't go on extreme rants about how stupid Christians are.

Than who do we point out attacked Gallielo and Darwin? The Jews?

I don't give a sh**t if somebody finds out that thier religon persecutes people (Islam) or did persecute people (Christianity). There shouldn't be any political correctness.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2005, 02:26:13 PM »

Being pro-science makes you an extremist?

No. I'm pro-science, but in advocating science I don't go on extreme rants about how stupid Christians are.

Than who do we point out attacked Gallielo and Darwin? The Jews?

I don't give a sh**t if somebody finds out that thier religon persecutes people (Islam) or did persecute people (Christianity). There shouldn't be any political correctness.

There's a difference between pointing out historical facts to be historical facts and using them in a manner that is poltically stupid.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2005, 02:49:26 PM »

This is why the Democrats won't be getting back into power for a long, long time.

Normally, perhaps - but most Democrats in politics are getting the message that they need to move away from the Nomos of the world. That's part of the frustration on Nomo's part here, I think.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2005, 05:33:54 PM »

Yet another stupid rant which harms her level of respect on the forum.  Fortunately, she doesn't speak for the majority of Democrats.

Unfortunately, extremists often do make things harder for the moderates. Tongue

Hahaha, yeah, I think you as a Libertarian ought to know. Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2005, 05:44:37 PM »

If you are a brilliant scientist. then watch out as Christians are watching you.

Isaac Newton.
Michael Faraday
Charles Darwin

We understand far more about how the universe operates yet Christians continue to believe in the fairytale.
well, as a Lutheran Christian who admires the work of Newton, Faraday, and Darwin, i will have to say that not ALL Christians are watching them.
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2005, 05:45:17 PM »

Give it a rest, nomo.
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2005, 03:58:06 AM »


Actually, he was probably an Unitarian(which menat a completely different thing at the time), but he was a young earth creationist and got into many disputes with his coleagues over that.
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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2005, 06:10:22 AM »

These threads would never have been started had it not been people like Pat Roberton, Falwelll, Dobson and groups such as Alliance Defence Fund, Moral Majority and all the other Chrisitan groups that shames the evangelical religion.

Intelligent Design is my hot button issue. If a democrat said i support intelligent design in BIOLOGY CLASS then i won't vote for him. Intelligent Design is an arguement to counter secualrism. People woh don't believe in the fairytale (thats how they refer to religion and god) always use Darwin and other scientists.

Abortion is an issue that is discussed both in theology and biology. the difference is that science doesnt talk about the moral rights just how it works. the moral side is in theology.
However most science classes don't teach about how an abortion is achieved until at least a responsible age.

Intelligent Design is the biggest threat to science. If this gets accpeted in the public domain the Christian right will fell to so overjoyed that they will then attack other scientists.

Faraday is regarded as one of the great Chemists and Physicists.
Darwin is regarded as the man who founded Biology. Does Intelligent Design have a scientific formula like natural selection or survival of the fittest?
Newton invented modern physics.

Yet Christians started this.

If you have a problem with my threads. TOUGH. they started it. i will continue to post threads on great scientists that have been attacked by Christians. I HAVE A GREAT ONE ON THE BIG BANG THEORY COMING UP. but i'll leave my powder dry for the moment.

This would never be an issue had they left science alone.
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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2005, 06:24:02 AM »


Not exactly.  That would have been Einstein et al.  Newtonian mechanics are essentially regarded in the scientific community as approximations of the real thing, although they're good enough approximations for any purposes outside of branches like particle physics.


Christians as a whole are somehow responsible for the actions of Robertson, Falwell, and Dobson?  You said yourself that it was them, not Christians as a whole.
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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2005, 06:34:50 AM »


Not exactly.  That would have been Einstein et al.  Newtonian mechanics are essentially regarded in the scientific community as approximations of the real thing, although they're good enough approximations for any purposes outside of branches like particle physics.


Christians as a whole are somehow responsible for the actions of Robertson, Falwell, and Dobson?  You said yourself that it was them, not Christians as a whole.

i wil eidt that out and replace it with 'Extreme Evangelicals' that unfortunately have a prominent voice. Thanks Gabu.

Your point on particle physics is true. Yet E=MC^2 was all started from Newtonian physics.

Faraday discovered Energy through Newtons works on Color theory, gravational forces etc.
Lawasier discovered mass and that it could be converted into energy.
De Chatelaut used Newtons work on forces to discover that a forces affect was not just twice the size but it is squared.

Einstein then used all four scientists work to show that E=MC^2.

Newton i believe like most in science was the founder of modern physics.
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2005, 04:13:25 AM »


I've never heard of this religion before. care to enlighten us all?
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2005, 09:49:14 AM »

These threads would never have been started had it not been people like Pat Roberton, Falwelll, Dobson and groups such as Alliance Defence Fund, Moral Majority and all the other Chrisitan groups that shames the evangelical religion.

No, these threads whould never have been started if you hadn't posted them.  Smiley  Imagine how many threads I could start on Moore, Dean, Bernard Nathanson, etc just because I don't agree with them or because I think their views are dangerous towards our society.  I just choose to perform a bit of restraint so I don't flame the boards around here.
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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2005, 09:49:18 AM »

Faraday is regarded as one of the great Chemists and Physicists.
Darwin is regarded as the man who founded Biology. Does Intelligent Design have a scientific formula like natural selection or survival of the fittest?
Newton invented modern physics.

You really need to read between the lines. Natural selection is supposed to assist in evolutionary arguments, but it can be applied to any theory for the development of life on earth. I have read many articles about how what was considered to be evolution in modern cases has been proven to be nothing more than natural selection. However, no evidence is within our reach which proves that natural selection could lead to a mysteriuosly-formed prokaryotes' development into moss and into humans.


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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2005, 10:50:08 AM »

The study of peppered moths, if it wasn't a hoax, was only an experiment which only proved natural selection, with no implications on the theory of evolution.
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