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« on: April 05, 2018, 07:45:11 AM »

I've often wondered if past elections would turn out differently (besides the obvious differences in EV totals) if they were held today, taking into consideration the demographics and identities of all 50 states.

I'll start with one of my favorite elections, the election of 1824.  Red for Jackson, Blue for John Quincy Adams (to keep it simple, we'll stick with two candidates).



Looks like John Quincy Adams wins, 288-250. I gave JQA (who would likely be a Hillary supporter) Oklahoma due to the large Native American population.

Now for 1860: We'll do three candidates for this one. Blue for Lincoln, Red for Breckinridge and Green for Douglas.



Lincoln still wins, 310-167-61. I gave a lot of the rural states to Douglas as I believe they would be concerned Lincoln was too pro-federal government, but would be less concerned with slavery and would support the preservation of the Union.
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2018, 09:55:41 AM »

^ I'd think that the Western rural states would be incredibly pro-Lincoln ... why would the Plains states want slavery to expand over there?
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2018, 03:54:33 PM »

Given their respective platforms on slavery, I would hope that this would be the result of an 1860 election:



I guess if I tried to imagine how they might update their platforms today, I'll say that Lincoln (blue) is a center-left northerner, Douglas (red) is a center-right northerner, Bell (green) is a center-right southerner, and Breckinridge (yellow) is a right-wing southerner. Here's a guess for that:

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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2018, 05:06:56 PM »

Question for the OP: Is the premise that slavery survives into the present, or is the premise that the candidates have modern-day positions on the issues?
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2018, 05:18:40 PM »

Platforms have been slightly modified.

1896

Bryan is left-wing but socially conservative, and McKinley is right-wing but socially liberal.


Narrow McKinley victory (unfortunately).
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2018, 08:57:59 PM »

1976 Today:


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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2018, 12:16:32 AM »

With 1976 Carter or 2018 Carter?
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2018, 06:45:56 AM »

Question for the OP: Is the premise that slavery survives into the present, or is the premise that the candidates have modern-day positions on the issues?

Generally that they hold the same positions as they did in their time, but applied to today's issues and times, if that makes sense. Of course, one may have to guess on how they'd stand on certain social issues. As far as slavery in these scenarios, it's still abolished, but there are issues around today that we already know divides the clumtry in a similar way (gay marriage and abortion rights, for instance).
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2018, 08:25:12 AM »

1876:

Hayes is a social liberal and fiscal conservative, a la Bill Clinton, but supports increased government fundign and involvement in education. Tilden is similarly moderate with an emphasis on reducing the influence of big money in politics and scaling back the power of the federal government. Red for Tilden, Blue for Hayes.



Hayes wins without an ounce of dispute.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2018, 05:35:55 PM »


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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2018, 05:37:20 PM »

1876:

Hayes is a social liberal and fiscal conservative, a la Bill Clinton, but supports increased government fundign and involvement in education. Tilden is similarly moderate with an emphasis on reducing the influence of big money in politics and scaling back the power of the federal government. Red for Tilden, Blue for Hayes.



Hayes wins without an ounce of dispute.

Hayes would win TX, FL, NC and lose NY and CA
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2018, 06:53:41 PM »

1876:

Hayes is a social liberal and fiscal conservative, a la Bill Clinton, but supports increased government fundign and involvement in education. Tilden is similarly moderate with an emphasis on reducing the influence of big money in politics and scaling back the power of the federal government. Red for Tilden, Blue for Hayes.



Hayes wins without an ounce of dispute.

Where do you guys get these delusions?
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