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« on: April 03, 2006, 11:14:41 AM »

McCain thinks we had to give Russia 'Harsh Treatment' over some recent issues? What do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2006, 11:24:21 AM »


If McCain gave some good examples of harsh treatment, I could give you a better answer.  Russia has gone through a lot of growing pains following the collape of the Soviet Union as well as a switch from Communism to democracy.  There will be a lot of ebb and flow as they work out their kinks.
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2006, 04:40:27 PM »


If McCain gave some good examples of harsh treatment, I could give you a better answer.  Russia has gone through a lot of growing pains following the collape of the Soviet Union as well as a switch from Communism to democracy.  There will be a lot of ebb and flow as they work out their kinks.

Russia hasn't been moving towards a democracy in years. If anything, it is rapidly moving backwards. The political system has been eviscerated to the point there is now no credible opposition either in the federal Parliament or in the states. Elections are now largely fixed before they happen (and the gobernatorial elections have simply been abolished). The very idea of a change of power by electoral means is now considred ridiculous even by the whatever opposition that remains. There are no longer any independent electronic media, and the print media are only tolerated in as far as they remain only marginally read by the public. Prosecutions of minor political irritants are increasingly common.  Russia now very much resembles Mexico under the good old PRI rule (pre-1990 style). If that is a democracy (or an evolving democracy), then you have a very broad definition of democracy.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2006, 10:45:08 PM »

Russia now is basically like Singapore. There's democratic structures, and they can look credible (as opposed to say elections in Iraq under Saddam which were blatantly obvious jokes that would never fool anyone), but they still don't work that way. Like in Singapore, everything is set up so that a working democracy could take place, but the people in charge don't want that, so it doesn't happen.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2006, 01:00:06 AM »

Russia hasn't been moving towards a democracy in years. If anything, it is rapidly moving backwards.

Sadly I have to agree with this. I'm suprised a communist-lite govt hasn't yet appeared.
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2006, 08:15:22 AM »

McCain thinks we had to give Russia 'Harsh Treatment' over some recent issues? What do you think?

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I agree with him.

My own thought is that Vladimir Putin is putrid. He's no friend of the US

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