Will the issue of Immigration/Refugees benefit Democrats or Republicans more in 2024 elections?
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« on: November 07, 2023, 02:22:12 AM »

Will the issue of Immigration/Refugees/Migrants benefit Democrats or Republicans more in 2024 elections?
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2023, 09:42:23 AM »

Republicans. What was the last time it benefited democrats?
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2023, 03:24:13 PM »

Almost certainly Republicans
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2023, 03:30:08 PM »

There are no Republicans who run for anything in Chicago, but the migrant crisis has certainly plssed off the Black community here, and rightfully so.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2023, 12:07:26 AM »

If a party seems to support people who had broke the law, it obviously will favor the other party.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2023, 01:19:01 AM »

Immigration to the US by reason and region of origin (2021)



Just look at how low the "diversity" and "safety" percentages are
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2023, 01:18:12 PM »


Not sure what your point here is, but this is exactly why Democrats are not going to look like the more rational party when it comes to this stuff.  The vast majority of migrants to the US right now that are flooding and overwhelming places like our police departments here in Chicago are economic migrants coming here for a better socioeconomic life.  Do I blame them?  Of course not, I would try the same for my family.  Is this sustainable and justifiable, though?  NO, because we clearly have millions of our own citizens who suffer from the same issues these migrants do, and they have every right to expect to be taken care of with whatever resources are available first.

In other words, are house is NOT in order, and it's certainly not in a place where we can take on this many more guests who need help.

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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2023, 02:26:35 AM »


Not sure what your point here is, but this is exactly why Democrats are not going to look like the more rational party when it comes to this stuff.  The vast majority of migrants to the US right now that are flooding and overwhelming places like our police departments here in Chicago are economic migrants coming here for a better socioeconomic life.  Do I blame them?  Of course not, I would try the same for my family.  Is this sustainable and justifiable, though?  NO, because we clearly have millions of our own citizens who suffer from the same issues these migrants do, and they have every right to expect to be taken care of with whatever resources are available first.

Minor differences with the situation on the ground two years ago aside, Trump and DeSantis really aren't the best R candidates to capitalize on this sentiment among eligible voters. That doesn't mean the issue won't help Republicans this cycle.
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2024, 06:50:11 PM »
« Edited: May 15, 2024, 07:13:05 PM by Frodo »

Republicans most certainly.  Between Trump wanting a military presence on the southern border, and the right to militarily intervene in Mexico should the need arise, it is pretty clear where this debate is headed.  I think the hardliners just quit dancing around this like a horse and state flat out that they want a Hadrian's Wall (or the Walls of Constantinople to use another analogy) on the southern border, and that they are willing to invest the resources necessary to realize this vision, even if it means raising taxes.  

It would almost certainly take care of border security, and would delineate the boundary between civilization to the north of the border, and those uncouth lawless barbarians to the south of it. This border 'wall' is nothing more than a glorified fence (and a campaign stunt) that anyone with access to metal cutting tools can overcome, and not worth the resources needed to maintain it.  If you really want to get serious about building a wall across the border, then build a proper wall above and beneath the surface worthy of the name -and invest the resources needed for it, along with establishing permanent military bases set at regular intervals along its length to house those needed to garrison it -and to launch periodic military campaigns into northern Mexico.  





I wouldn't advise trying to build the modern equivalent of the Antonine Wall deep in Mexican territory though.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2024, 07:33:36 PM »

For right now, the Republicans.

We seem to go through periods when sentiments about these issues favor more stricter or a tightening of how many come through and right now we're in one.  This was Donald Trump's major issue in 2016 and since we're still living in his political era (whereas he is the dominant figure) it's still going to be a major issue.

A backlash to a possible Trump hardline immigration agenda in 2025 might change how we talk about it.  Under Joe Biden, the issue is being seen by many people through a more conservative lens - Americans want the border to be secure, they want public funds to be spent on American citizens, they do not favor drivers licenses for those who are not citizens... but once mass deportations begin, and if there is any economic consequences to all of it, it might cause people to have more pro-immigration views.
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