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« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2008, 10:08:21 AM »


Has any jurisdiction voted 95% for one of these bans? No town outside of Colorado City/Hildale or Kiryas Joel has such uniformity on social issues. Even if the town is conservative.

I'm sure it would be >80, though.
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« Reply #51 on: November 16, 2008, 10:31:30 AM »


Has any jurisdiction voted 95% for one of these bans? No town outside of Colorado City/Hildale or Kiryas Joel has such uniformity on social issues. Even if the town is conservative.

I'm sure it would be >80, though.

Whos the 20% ?

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« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2008, 11:13:50 AM »

Typical 50/50 white suburban middle class New Jersey town

Probably 55-45% in favor of the ban
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« Reply #53 on: November 16, 2008, 01:00:55 PM »

I'd actually say that it would probably pass. We're not a very progressive city. The blue collar types and many blacks would be all for it.

Don't forget the Latinos.  I think the noes would be pretty strong in Center City, University City and Manayunk.  Interestingly, I think the next best "No" votes would come from the Northeast, but still a far cry from the 1st 3 I mentioned.  Most blacks I've worked with loathe gays and are quite religious.

I would say it narrowly passes, but a close vote either way.
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« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2008, 01:28:54 PM »


Has any jurisdiction voted 95% for one of these bans? No town outside of Colorado City/Hildale or Kiryas Joel has such uniformity on social issues. Even if the town is conservative.

I'm sure it would be >80, though.

Whos the 20% ?

Random people with gay relatives or friends, or people who watch The L Word and Oprah, or others who very quietly hold views out of step with their neighbors. There are also gay people in small towns.

I live in a very liberal environment and know conservatives who keep their heads down and do not talk about how they differ with others. In a small town, it would be even worse.
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« Reply #55 on: November 16, 2008, 01:58:01 PM »

I'd actually say that it would probably pass. We're not a very progressive city. The blue collar types and many blacks would be all for it.

Don't forget the Latinos.  I think the noes would be pretty strong in Center City, University City and Manayunk.  Interestingly, I think the next best "No" votes would come from the Northeast, but still a far cry from the 1st 3 I mentioned.  Most blacks I've worked with loathe gays and are quite religious.

I would say it narrowly passes, but a close vote either way.

I was thinking about this the other day and realized it probably wouldn't be too close. Blacks, blue collar, ethnic whites (in South Philly and the NE) and Latinos will always out vote the progressive types. That's a pretty much unbeatable coalition we're talking about (unless turnout is very, very low).
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« Reply #56 on: November 16, 2008, 02:05:40 PM »

Something like 15-20% voting against in Hayden and maybe close to 30 in Coeur D' Alene.
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« Reply #57 on: November 16, 2008, 03:44:26 PM »

they would vote against it. But since people who were gay took it for granted, the ones who did not want gays to get married voted and it got banned:(
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« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2008, 04:59:22 PM »

My county voted against defining marriage as between a man and women 45-55 in 2004, with the city results probably closer to 37-63% against.

I suspect that the results now would be closer to 33-67% against a gay marriage ban.
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« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2008, 05:06:02 PM »

People here are angry that gay marrige is even in debate.

I couldn't see more then 10% voting for it here.
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« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2008, 05:58:36 PM »

I'm not sure how my city would vote, but my county voted 68-32 for Prop.2, unfortunately.  I don't doubt my town is similar to those results, but I don't really know for sure.

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« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2008, 06:25:23 PM »

People here are angry that gay marrige is even in debate.

I couldn't see more then 10% voting for it here.

I trust you to know your town better than I do.

Anyway, the difference between 90% and 80% is not significant to me. I am curious if there are jurisdictions that vote 95% or more, and given that all the southern states have voted on this at one time or another, the data are out there. Mississippi and Louisiana voted on it in 2005, I think.
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« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2008, 06:32:28 PM »

People here are angry that gay marrige is even in debate.

I couldn't see more then 10% voting for it here.

I trust you to know your town better than I do.

Anyway, the difference between 90% and 80% is not significant to me. I am curious if there are jurisdictions that vote 95% or more, and given that all the southern states have voted on this at one time or another, the data are out there. Mississippi and Louisiana voted on it in 2005, I think.

Ok I see where your coming from.

As in turnout.  In that case you have a point, but with it being Gay marriage every single Conservative will go to the polls.
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« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2008, 06:33:40 PM »

no black people, so that wouldn't hurt it. Good deal of liberal whites. Many conservative catholic Cubans.

I'd give it a narrow pass.

Your county voted for it 58-42. I already made maps of this in US General Discussion.
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« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2008, 06:34:19 PM »

70% for... I could look up the actual results from '06 but its around that.
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« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2008, 08:49:50 PM »

I'd actually say that it would probably pass. We're not a very progressive city. The blue collar types and many blacks would be all for it.

Don't forget the Latinos.  I think the noes would be pretty strong in Center City, University City and Manayunk.  Interestingly, I think the next best "No" votes would come from the Northeast, but still a far cry from the 1st 3 I mentioned.  Most blacks I've worked with loathe gays and are quite religious.

I would say it narrowly passes, but a close vote either way.

I was thinking about this the other day and realized it probably wouldn't be too close. Blacks, blue collar, ethnic whites (in South Philly and the NE) and Latinos will always out vote the progressive types. That's a pretty much unbeatable coalition we're talking about (unless turnout is very, very low).

What I find interesting (and quite annoying) is that these voters are always pegged as socially conservative.  Granted, there are a lot more religious among these voters than the yuppie progressive types in Queen Village, etc., but there are a lot of secular blacks, Latinos, and white Catholics.  Philadelphia is still polled as a largely pro-choice city albeit not by the 83-17 margin Obama got over McCain, but I'd venture to say it's in the high 60-70s. As for gay marriage, you're right.  It's a hard, almost impossible sell amongst older blacks, Latinos and ethnic whites.
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