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« on: March 09, 2004, 09:03:47 PM »

I was just wondering what would happen if something major happened to Kerry so that the Democrats couldnt nominate him. Something like death, or his wife getting murderedm or a huge scandal. I know this is a big hypothetical, just wondering though
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2004, 09:05:58 PM »

I was just wondering what would happen if something major happened to Kerry so that the Democrats couldnt nominate him. Something like death, or his wife getting murderedm or a huge scandal. I know this is a big hypothetical, just wondering though

That's what Carl Rove calls a contingency plan.  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2004, 09:10:46 PM »

my guess is it would be an 'open convention'.

what if the president elect dies before inaguration day?  does the vice president elect become president?
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2004, 09:12:14 PM »

Maybe the DNC will reschedule some primaries for May, June and July and candidates will step in. The DNC can set the rules.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2004, 09:25:19 PM »

I could be wrong on this one but I believe if a candidate dies or becomes unable to serve then by party rules the delegates are not bound and may give their vote to whomever they choose.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2004, 09:30:19 PM »

Enter Hillary!

(Thats what Bill Safire writes in his fictional predictions)
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2004, 09:52:50 PM »

It really depends on when it would happen though.  But it would throw the whole thing into a state of confusion.

If there were still primaries left then Edwards, Dean, Clark, & company could hit the campaign trail again.

On short notice I suspect the only person who Democrats could easily agree on would be Al Gore.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2004, 10:02:49 PM »

I was just wondering what would happen if something major happened to Kerry so that the Democrats couldnt nominate him. Something like death, or his wife getting murderedm or a huge scandal. I know this is a big hypothetical, just wondering though

Hmm... good idea Wink

If that were the case, the Democrats wouldn't have a chance... their chances are already not in their favor, I can't see how they could still win if something that traumatic happened.
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2004, 10:08:34 PM »

its nice to see the Republicans are working on their 'backup plans'
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2004, 11:09:58 AM »

I was just wondering what would happen if something major happened to Kerry so that the Democrats couldnt nominate him. Something like death, or his wife getting murderedm or a huge scandal. I know this is a big hypothetical, just wondering though

That's what Carl Rove calls a contingency plan.  Wink

OMG, lol lol lol

Angus you have me cracking up five minutes later on that one.
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2004, 11:38:10 AM »

I think Edwards would be fairly likely.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2004, 11:46:40 AM »
« Edited: March 10, 2004, 11:47:09 AM by StatesRights »

Some have said its very unlikely that John Edwards could even win his home state being so liberal.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2004, 12:17:15 PM »

Some have said its very unlikely that John Edwards could even win his home state being so liberal.

I wouldn't say that John Edwards is 'so liberal'. It's true that he probably wouldn't win his home state, but he wouldn't necessarily have to.
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2004, 12:22:25 PM »

Some have said its very unlikely that John Edwards could even win his home state being so liberal.

I wouldn't say that John Edwards is 'so liberal'. It's true that he probably wouldn't win his home state, but he wouldn't necessarily have to.

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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2004, 12:51:10 PM »

What would be the point of having him on the ticket to sway the south if he couldnt even sway his home state to him.
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2004, 02:26:37 PM »

What would be the point of having him on the ticket to sway the south if he couldnt even sway his home state to him.

The point isn't really to sway the South, it's to sway moderate Republicans and independents who have voted for him in large numbers in primaries all over the country.
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2004, 02:35:59 AM »

Edwards is dead in the water. Kerry says behind closed doors he is a political lightweight. If Democrats want to win they need to start running more Conservative Democrats.
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2004, 09:58:42 AM »

Edwards is dead in the water. Kerry says behind closed doors he is a political lightweight. If Democrats want to win they need to start running more Conservative Democrats.
So you get to hear what is said behind closed doors?  We really must start lining them with lead and send you kryptonite in the mail.
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2004, 10:36:36 AM »

I'm just saying what he said. It's well known. Stop the sarcasm.
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2004, 10:48:18 AM »

I'm just saying what he said. It's well known. Stop the sarcasm.
Ok, I was just joking around.  You don't have to take it so personally.

However, I have yet to hear Kerry say that about Edwards.  In fact this is the first time I've heard anyone say that.  Could you provide a source to back up that claim?
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2004, 12:08:05 PM »

Capitol Hill, today

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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2004, 12:32:30 PM »

It's going to be eighty-one degrees today, so I rode the bicycle in.  Lovin' it now.  Wait till July!

That picture gives me a raging hard-on.  Well, not the picture, exactly, but the doom it portends.  I only thought it was going go way negative when I thought it would be a Kerry/vanillaDemocrat ticket.  Now that I fantasize about the possibility of a Kerry/Dean ticket...

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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2004, 01:26:32 PM »

I'm just saying what he said. It's well known. Stop the sarcasm.
Ok, I was just joking around.  You don't have to take it so personally.

However, I have yet to hear Kerry say that about Edwards.  In fact this is the first time I've heard anyone say that.  Could you provide a source to back up that claim?

Rush said it yesterday and he said it came from sources in the Kerry campaign.
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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2004, 01:47:33 PM »

I'm just saying what he said. It's well known. Stop the sarcasm.
Ok, I was just joking around.  You don't have to take it so personally.

However, I have yet to hear Kerry say that about Edwards.  In fact this is the first time I've heard anyone say that.  Could you provide a source to back up that claim?
Rush said it yesterday and he said it came from sources in the Kerry campaign.
Well Rush isn't really the most independent of sources, now is he?  Frankly Rush has made a lot of statements that have proven to be untrue.

Let's put it this way ... if I were to say that Al Franken said that Bush called Bill Frist a "political lightweight" and that he said it came from sources in the Bush campaign ... would you believe it?
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2004, 01:49:32 PM »

We'll find out who he picks. Its going to be interesting.
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