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« on: February 10, 2004, 03:01:25 PM »

I would have voted for Roosevelt, only because Taft alienated many Republicans by not continuing the policies of Teddy Roosevelt and defended the Payne-Aldritch act which resulted in high tarriff rates.
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2004, 04:01:25 PM »

1. TR
2. Debs
3. Taft
4. Wilson

Roosevelt!  go progressives!
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2004, 04:24:31 PM »

Debs! Debs! Debs!
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2004, 04:44:05 PM »


You're the only one shoutring so far... Wink
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2004, 06:11:11 PM »

Teddy was a very good president...and he was from New York!  Yay!

FDR was also from NY, I don't think any other 20th century presidents were.
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2004, 06:21:20 PM »

Teddy was a very good president...and he was from New York!  Yay!

FDR was also from NY, I don't think any other 20th century presidents were.

Nixon, lol... Wink
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2004, 06:32:38 PM »

TR, no question about it.  It's the only election I can think of where I would have strayed from the party line Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2004, 06:34:20 PM »

Teddy was a very good president...and he was from New York!  Yay!

FDR was also from NY, I don't think any other 20th century presidents were.

Nixon, lol... Wink

Eisenhower... Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2004, 06:39:29 PM »

Wasn't Nixon from CA?  I remeber he was Gov. there.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2004, 07:01:50 PM »

Wasn't Nixon from CA?  I remeber he was Gov. there.

Yeah, but he had NY as his home state in the 1968 election.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2004, 07:20:13 PM »

Yeah, but he had NY as his home state in the 1968 election.
He wasn't a New Yorker by any stretch of the imagination.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2004, 09:44:22 PM »

TR, no question about it.  It's the only election I can think of where I would have strayed from the party line Smiley
Incidently, alot of the Votes TR and the Progressives got came from Republicans who were unhappy with Taft.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2004, 03:59:26 AM »

Yeah, but he had NY as his home state in the 1968 election.
He wasn't a New Yorker by any stretch of the imagination.

I know, it was mostly to tease you...
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2004, 04:06:55 AM »

Nixon was actually a Senator from California, not Governor. Technically his home state was New York since he moved there after having lost the California Governor's race in 1962, but yeah, it was no more his "home" state than it is any of the other of the multitudes who have moved to New York from elsewhere over the years.

Same goes for Eisenhower, who was originally from Kansas but then moved to New York, technically making it his home state.
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2004, 07:36:17 AM »
« Edited: February 11, 2004, 07:37:51 AM by Lewis Trondheim »

Nixon was actually a Senator from California, not Governor. Technically his home state was New York since he moved there after having lost the California Governor's race in 1962, but yeah, it was no more his "home" state than it is any of the other of the multitudes who have moved to New York from elsewhere over the years.

Same goes for Eisenhower, who was originally from Kansas but then moved to New York, technically making it his home state.

I'm kind of surprised. I know about the intricacies of "home states" but the lists I've seen otherwise list Nixon as Californian anyway. They also have Eisenhower as officially from Maryland.
Eisenhower grew up in Kansas of course, and if any place has a claim on him it's Kansas, but he didn't really live there at anytime after he left for West Point. From then on he lived wherever he was stationed.
And he wasn't born in Kansas either. He was born in Denison, Texas, where his parents had moved from Kansas around the time of his conception and which they left for Kansas as soon as mother and child were fit to travel after his birth. I think he lived in Texas for 9 days, but I may be getting the number wrong. Ridiculously short, anyway.

Back to the original question: What question? Debs!
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2004, 08:59:20 AM »

Nixon was actually a Senator from California, not Governor. Technically his home state was New York since he moved there after having lost the California Governor's race in 1962, but yeah, it was no more his "home" state than it is any of the other of the multitudes who have moved to New York from elsewhere over the years.

Same goes for Eisenhower, who was originally from Kansas but then moved to New York, technically making it his home state.

I'm kind of surprised. I know about the intricacies of "home states" but the lists I've seen otherwise list Nixon as Californian anyway. They also have Eisenhower as officially from Maryland.
Eisenhower grew up in Kansas of course, and if any place has a claim on him it's Kansas, but he didn't really live there at anytime after he left for West Point. From then on he lived wherever he was stationed.
And he wasn't born in Kansas either. He was born in Denison, Texas, where his parents had moved from Kansas around the time of his conception and which they left for Kansas as soon as mother and child were fit to travel after his birth. I think he lived in Texas for 9 days, but I may be getting the number wrong. Ridiculously short, anyway.

Back to the original question: What question? Debs!

On this website, Nixon is listed as a Californian for the elections of 1952, 1956, 1960 and 1972, with 1968 being the only election where he has New York as his home state.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2004, 04:06:07 PM »

On this website, Nixon is listed as a Californian for the elections of 1952, 1956, 1960 and 1972, with 1968 being the only election where he has New York as his home state.
That really, really makes no sense.
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2004, 05:40:18 PM »

On this website, Nixon is listed as a Californian for the elections of 1952, 1956, 1960 and 1972, with 1968 being the only election where he has New York as his home state.
That really, really makes no sense.

Maybe he moved to New York and then back again...or whatever, I have no idea. Maybe he felt forced to move to New York b/c there was no place for him in CA politics, but when he became president he thought it more strategical to switch back again?
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2004, 05:45:25 PM »

On this website, Nixon is listed as a Californian for the elections of 1952, 1956, 1960 and 1972, with 1968 being the only election where he has New York as his home state.
That really, really makes no sense.

Maybe he moved to New York and then back again...or whatever, I have no idea. Maybe he felt forced to move to New York b/c there was no place for him in CA politics, but when he became president he thought it more strategical to switch back again?

After he lost the 1962 CA governor's race, he moved to NYC to practice law.  Since his home was still in New York for the 1968 campaign, he ran from there, although he still claimed California as his homestate.
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2004, 06:32:50 AM »

*Bump*

I wanted to make a map for this, the most interesting election.

Here is how it would look according to the votes in this poll:



What a blowout win for TR, I didn't swing Oklahoma as he appears not to be on the ballot as he received 0% so I didn't swing it.

Theodore Roosevelt/Hiram Johnson: 428 EVs
Woodrow Wilson/Thomas Marshall: 103 EVs
William Taft/Nicholas Butler: 0 EVs

This would almost certainly see the Progressives emerge as a major third party.
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2004, 06:48:57 AM »

yes!!!!!!
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2004, 07:03:24 AM »

TR would have been ebtter than Wilson in managing the first World war.
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2004, 07:07:39 AM »


I think your progressive party is a lot further left than TR's. Wink
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2004, 07:23:36 AM »

Theodore Roosevelt- Progressive
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2004, 09:59:38 AM »

Yeah, but he had NY as his home state in the 1968 election.
He wasn't a New Yorker by any stretch of the imagination.

Nixon was a representative and later a Senator from CA, then he was Ike's VP, was beaten in 1962 by Jerry Brown senior in the battle for the Governorship, vowed after his defeat to leave politics, then came back in 1968 (his home state now NY, as that was where the law practice he was a member of was based) was elected and re-elected and then watergate and the rest is history... Smiley  
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