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« on: November 25, 2003, 11:28:57 pm »
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You may not think Dean will be beaten; in fact, I don't. But if he were to be beaten,  when do you think would be most likely?
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2003, 11:34:18 pm »
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I went Iowa caucus. If Gephardt can oull it off (unlikely by the results of a recent poll, but possible), he just might become the great anti-Dean. Unlikely, I know. I don't think it'll happen. But is is the most likely possibility next to Dean carrying the nomination.
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2003, 11:54:35 am »
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That poll is not that relieable . I only go with the Des Moines register polls.  
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2003, 12:02:39 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2003, 05:44:04 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2003, 05:47:23 pm »
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Yep, Iowa. Gephardt stands a good chance of putting the breaks on Dean there and then.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2003, 05:50:22 pm »
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Yep, Iowa. Gephardt stands a good chance of putting the breaks on Dean there and then.
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2003, 06:41:47 pm »
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If Gephardt can pull out Iowa, he will stand a good chance of setting himself up as the "Not Dean" option for the Democratic Primary. And if he can do that, he should be able to pick up alot of votes from Democrats who have concerns over whether Dean is an electable candidate.
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2003, 07:11:26 pm »
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If Gephardt can pull out Iowa, he will stand a good chance of setting himself up as the "Not Dean" option for the Democratic Primary. And if he can do that, he should be able to pick up alot of votes from Democrats who have concerns over whether Dean is an electable candidate.

dean has around 40% of the dem base. the other 60% are split between the other candidates. I think they should unite behind gephardt or kerry because thats the only way they can stop dean.  They have to do it fast to stop the dean machine.

i whould like gephardt
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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2003, 07:32:18 pm »
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I don't know where you get that 40% figure from, I've never seen Dean top 20% in any poll of Democratic voters nationally. He might be getting close to 40% in New Hampshire in some polls, but that's about it.
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2003, 07:46:47 pm »
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I don't know where you get that 40% figure from, I've never seen Dean top 20% in any poll of Democratic voters nationally. He might be getting close to 40% in New Hampshire in some polls, but that's about it.
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2003, 08:57:28 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2003, 11:58:14 pm »
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True, they don't, but what evidence do you have that Dean's vote is actually more than double what the polls are revealing? That would be well outside the margin of error, so you'd have to establish that the poll is taking a very unrepresentative nonrandom sample of voters.
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2003, 03:18:17 pm »
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Yep, Iowa. Gephardt stands a good chance of putting the breaks on Dean there and then.

I don't think Gep has what it takes to stop him.
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2003, 03:29:17 pm »
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Yep, Iowa. Gephardt stands a good chance of putting the breaks on Dean there and then.

I don't think Gep has what it takes to stop him.
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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2003, 08:34:27 pm »
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I don't know where you get that 40% figure from, I've never seen Dean top 20% in any poll of Democratic voters nationally. He might be getting close to 40% in New Hampshire in some polls, but that's about it.
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They always say the national polls are meaningless because it's just name ID until the primaries get underway.  If Dean really has 40% in NH with 8 other candidates he's in the driver's seat.  But I still think the Clintonites will broadside him in January.  These people play for keeps Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2003, 05:04:29 am »
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Yep, Iowa. Gephardt stands a good chance of putting the breaks on Dean there and then.

I don't think Gep has what it takes to stop him.

Neither do I if I'm honest, but a Gephardt victory in Iowa would prove that Dean isn't as invincible as he's supposed to be - and that, in turn, would be a huge encouragement for the Clintonites to throw their weight behind someone like Clark or Edwards.
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