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« on: September 21, 2004, 06:29:07 AM »
« edited: September 21, 2004, 06:32:13 AM by BushTheImperalist »

If you have a brain read all of it. and dont spin it - message to the weasel patrol

Osama Bin Laden is more popular in the UK, Sweden, Australia and SouthKorea than George Bush.

Bush is now the most hated man in the world by everyone bar the right of America. So why do they support Bush.

Ask Republicans this, why does the French right support Chirac. No-one knows in America or around the world bar the right in France.

Bush supporters seem to not have a brain. I was a registered Republican before Bush left me. Bush is not like Goldwater, Reagan or more conventional Conservatives like Churchill. Bush lives in a totally different political philosophy that Americans on the right just dont understand.

When you invade a country illegally and they dont have no weapons of mass destruction the trust around theworld is gone. Iran will not deal with the UN as they know wmds or not Bushs america WILL invade. Why should Iran stop making wmds while Bush remains in the White House? He is a neo-con not a fiscal conservaitve, or a goldwater conservaitve, reagan conservative.

BUSH IS A NEO-CON. are americans  - no.

Yet if i say im voting Libertarian i get told by bush supoorters that im for drug use. I want the people to no-longe pay the deficit bill. i want Bush to be held accountable by the American people as he has now encouraged rouge nations to build wmds.

Think about it. you are leading Iran. you feel that your culture is threatened so you fight. The UN tells you to stop building wmd. While Bushs America invaded a country that said it didnt so im building them as he will invade my country as he doesnt like our beliefs.
Think about it
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2004, 06:37:00 AM »

If you have a brain read all of it. and dont spin it - message to the weasel patrol

Osama Bin Laden is more popular in the UK, Sweden, Australia and SouthKorea than George Bush.

Bush is now the most hated man in the world by everyone bar the right of America. So why do they support Bush.

Ask Republicans this, why does the French right support Chirac. No-one knows in America or around the world bar the right in France.

Bush supporters seem to not have a brain. I was a registered Republican before Bush left me. Bush is not like Goldwater, Reagan or more conventional Conservatives like Churchill. Bush lives in a totally different political philosophy that Americans on the right just dont understand.

When you invade a country illegally and they dont have no weapons of mass destruction the trust around theworld is gone. Iran will not deal with the UN as they know wmds or not Bushs america WILL invade. Why should Iran stop making wmds while Bush remains in the White House? He is a neo-con not a fiscal conservaitve, or a goldwater conservaitve, reagan conservative.

BUSH IS A NEO-CON. are americans  - no.

Yet if i say im voting Libertarian i get told by bush supoorters that im for drug use. I want the people to no-longe pay the deficit bill. i want Bush to be held accountable by the American people as he has now encouraged rouge nations to build wmds.

Think about it. you are leading Iran. you feel that your culture is threatened so you fight. The UN tells you to stop building wmd. Why Bushs America invaded a country that said it didnt so im building them as he will invade my country as he doesnt like our beliefs.
Think about it

1)Bush is very unpopular in Europe but Europe prefers Bush to Ben LAden. Ben LAden is maybe a little popular in the islamic communities but it's all.

2)French right prefers Chirac because Chirac is a right-president and the chief of the right government. But in right party "UMP", there is Nicolas Sarkosy who will be the next leader of this party and he hates CHirac and likes Bush. There is too Alain MAdelin, a very liberal (economically) man and he prefers Bush to Chirac.
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2004, 07:02:08 AM »
« Edited: September 21, 2004, 07:03:03 AM by agcat »

Memo to troll:  Americans give a sh**t whether or not the mighty French like us.  Got that.  If we decide to surrender, we will tap their expertise at that time.

That is all.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2004, 08:18:18 AM »
« Edited: September 21, 2004, 08:20:29 AM by tomm_86 »

Message to c***: Look, in WWI France had 1.3 MILLION military deaths - Thats slightly more than America's TOTAL war deaths in the WHOLE TWENTIETH CENTURY. Every town or village you go to in France (and much of Britain I might add) you will find a memorial with the names of almost all the young men of that village who died in vain in that war, BUT OH! WAIT! They're not like Americans, because they didn't die fighting for all that idealistic Jingoist sloganistic crap which spews from the mouths of many conservatives - Let Freedom Ring!!!11

Next time you make dumb assertions about France, or any country which is part of the world outside of your [once] safe far-away nation, take into mind that many countries have suffered a lot more from the effects of war than the United States (thats not to say that US troops shouldn't be respected for their sacrifices in WWII) - Try considering why some countries might not be so overly keen about going to wars, especially when countires like Iraq are a neglegible threat.

Fortunately you don't speak for the majority of Americans, you speak on behalf of one arrogant ignoramus, who are in reality a minority of the American people, despite that one of them is in the White House...
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2004, 08:26:35 AM »

Osama Bin Laden is more popular in the UK, Sweden, Australia and SouthKorea than George Bush.

Bush is now the most hated man in the world by everyone bar the right of America. So why do they support Bush.


I agree with your general point, except that in the UK and Europe NOBDOY (spare a handful nuts) would publicly speak in support of Bin Laden in any European country, George bush is not so f***ed up thats he's lost a popularity contest with Osama Bin Laden.

But, in support of your case, the disturbing thing is that this is the case in some Islamic nations like, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt where people have generally had more moderate opinions of America :/
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2004, 09:05:22 AM »

Osama Bin Laden is more popular in the UK, Sweden, Australia and SouthKorea than George Bush.

Can you provide a reference?  I know Bush in unpopular over there, but Bin Laden doesn't have much popularity either.

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I'm not sure why we should care what the rest of the world thinks.  I agree that Bush is bad.

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A lot of them don't, but even more just haven't taken the time to see what Bush is doing or to find out there are other options.  

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Much of what you call the conventional right does understand.  They just seem powerless to stop the big-government types from using their message in campaigns then doing the exact opposite once elected.

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Doesn't matter what the world thinks.  I'd worry about why Americans still have trust in Bush.

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No one should deal with the UN.

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Freedom seems to scare a lot of more extreme Bush supporters.
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I basically agree.

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Think about something else.  Why do so many people think you are a troll?  The last thing Libertarians need is a Libertarian troll.  Calm down relax, maybe try some of the substances we advocate legalizing.  Yes we're doomed, but you can present our ideas in a more sane and rational way.  Trollish rantings ain't going to advance our cause. You sound like a Libertarian version of shira,  nomo, hennessyxo or any of the other well known trolls. Their ranting do nothing but push people away from their cause.  We don't need to emulate them.

Now you are improving.  This has been the most rational post I've read from you.  But you really need to think before you type and try and be more calm and rational.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2004, 09:17:24 AM »

Think about something else.  Why do so many people think you are a troll?  The last thing Libertarians need is a Libertarian troll.  Calm down relax, maybe try some of the substances we advocate legalizing.  Yes we're doomed, but you can present our ideas in a more sane and rational way.  Trollish rantings ain't going to advance our cause. You sound like a Libertarian version of shira,  nomo, hennessyxo or any of the other well known trolls. Their ranting do nothing but push people away from their cause.  We don't need to emulate them.

Thank you.  The delivery of the Libertarian message is a large part of the reason that people don't take it seriously.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2004, 09:18:59 AM »

Memo to troll:  Americans give a sh**t whether or not the mighty French like us.  Got that.  If we decide to surrender, we will tap their expertise at that time.

That is all.

Don't forget unemployment.  The French are good at that.

Just shaddup, Frenchie, keep shipping the Beaujolais and the tasty cheeses, but keep your apologist politics to yourself.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2004, 09:28:04 AM »

Memo to troll:  Americans give a sh**t whether or not the mighty French like us.  Got that.  If we decide to surrender, we will tap their expertise at that time.

That is all.

Don't forget unemployment.  The French are good at that.

Just shaddup, Frenchie, keep shipping the Beaujolais and the tasty cheeses, but keep your apologist politics to yourself.

Frenchie? He's clearly saying American's Don't give a sh** about what the French think, he obviously just left the word out, otherwise his second comment would be contradictory

Unless you're talking about me, but if you are maybe you should quote me...
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2004, 11:59:27 AM »

Memo to troll:  Americans give a sh**t whether or not the mighty French like us.  Got that.  If we decide to surrender, we will tap their expertise at that time.

That is all.

Don't forget unemployment.  The French are good at that.

Just shaddup, Frenchie, keep shipping the Beaujolais and the tasty cheeses, but keep your apologist politics to yourself.

Frenchie? He's clearly saying American's Don't give a sh** about what the French think, he obviously just left the word out, otherwise his second comment would be contradictory

Unless you're talking about me, but if you are maybe you should quote me...

I should have put it in quotes.  I was speaking of the hypothetical Frenchman.

I know what the geography of France looks like.  ;-)
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2004, 12:06:12 PM »

Memo to troll:  Americans give a sh**t whether or not the mighty French like us.  Got that.  If we decide to surrender, we will tap their expertise at that time.

That is all.

Don't forget unemployment.  The French are good at that.

Just shaddup, Frenchie, keep shipping the Beaujolais and the tasty cheeses, but keep your apologist politics to yourself.

Frenchie? He's clearly saying American's Don't give a sh** about what the French think, he obviously just left the word out, otherwise his second comment would be contradictory

Unless you're talking about me, but if you are maybe you should quote me...

I should have put it in quotes.  I was speaking of the hypothetical Frenchman.

I know what the geography of France looks like.  ;-)

Ah, so you're German then?  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2004, 12:22:14 PM »


Hahaha.  No, I went over there with a corkscrew, looking for a good bottle of w(h)ine -- they thought it was the Imperial American Army and surrendered.

I pillaged one bottle of Beaujolais and a wedge of fine cheese and allowed British Airways to "liberate" them.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2004, 01:16:18 PM »

Osama Bin Laden is more popular in the UK, Sweden, Australia and SouthKorea than George Bush.

BULLsh**t
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2004, 01:23:20 PM »

Osama Bin Laden is more popular in the UK, Sweden, Australia and SouthKorea than George Bush.

BULLsh**t
DEATH TO TROLLS

A Nomo by anyother name is still a troll.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2004, 02:02:48 PM »

Will nomo be called dumb every time he posts BS like this? Yes. Yes he will.
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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2004, 02:41:54 PM »

Actually, it's Bush the Imperalist. Apparently he doesn't know how to spell (gee, that's a surprise).
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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2004, 03:24:17 PM »

Will nomo be called dumb every time he posts BS like this? Yes. Yes he will.

Good call guys.  I don't know who called it first last week but Bush imperialist=nomorelies.  He was getting no replies because he lied out his a$$ and now he figures he willl troll some new waters.

Ah this explains so much.  Thanks for catching that.
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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2004, 03:28:27 PM »

Americans WILL be called dumb if they reelect Bush, and we will deserve to be.
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2004, 05:05:37 PM »

So, we are down to arguing over whether George Bush is more popular than Osama Bin Laden.  He's a pathetic "leader of the free world" but yes there are people out there who are worse.  I'm sure he'd win a popularity contest with Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, or Hitler, also.  Mussolini or Robert
Mugabe might be close.
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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2004, 06:06:15 PM »

Called dumb by the Europeans?  Oh gosh.  I'm going to go right down to the Kerry headquarters and put a sign in my yard.
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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2004, 06:15:23 PM »
« Edited: September 21, 2004, 06:37:21 PM by opebo »

I think Europeans aversion to Bush is based primarily on religion.  It is difficult for we atheists and agnostics not to think of the religious as a bit stupid/foolish/deluded, even if we don't openly admit it.  

I think most foreigners are indifferent to whether US economic policy is slightly right (Bush) or slightly left (Kerry).  And the war has made us hated abroad, but not distained as fools - for example Vietnam was unpopular abroad, but neither LBJ or Nixon were ever thought fools.  

No, it is religion that is at the root of European's distain of Bush, Bush voters, and Americans in general.
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2004, 06:27:20 PM »

I think Europeans aversion to Bush is based primarily on religion.  It is difficult for we atheists and agnostics not to think of the religious as a bit stupid/foolish/deluded, even if we don't openly admit it.  

I think most foreigners are indifferent to whether US economic is slightly right (Bush) or slightly left (Kerry).  And the war has made us hated abroad, but not distained as fools - for example Vietnam was unpopular abroad, but neither LBJ or Nixon were ever thought fools.  

No, it is religion that is at the root of European's distain of Bush, Bush voters, and Americans in general.

Huh. Well now I thought it was they who always say the "religious right" is intolerant and bigoted and so forth. If that's true about the atheists and agnostics, then they wouldn't seem to be very open minded and tolerant themselves. Interesting.
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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2004, 10:26:44 PM »

I was embarrassed thinking this guy was from my party, and trust me it takes some doing to be embarrassed by the LP if you can accept its current situation.
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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2004, 10:35:30 PM »

I guess I would feel worse if Europe had good leadership... Schroeder? LoL Chirac? LOL

Putin is quite solid, Berlusconi or whatever is alright... but his cabinet is generally excellent. Actually a lot of European countries have decent government, but the major "powers" don't- Germany, France, England, now Spain. Not that they have any power, but I in economic terms...
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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2004, 03:56:25 AM »

Who cares if we will be called that or not?
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