International Poll on Bush and Kerry

[Brambila]

Recently Bill O'Reilly intereviewed surveyor Steven Kull of PIPA, who surveyed several nations on their opinions of George Bush. Though I wasn't surprised by the results, some of them were not accurate as they interviewed people from urban areas. Here are the footnotes:

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1 In Brazil the survey was conducted in Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro.
2 In China the survey was conducted in Beijing, Shenyang, Shanghai, Hangzhou, Wuhan, Chengdu, Guangzhou, Zhengzhou, and Xi’an, representing 36% of the total population in Urban China.
3 In Colombia the survey was conducted in Barranquilla, Bucaramanga, Bogota, Cali, and Medellin.
4 In the Dominican Republic the survey was conducted in Distrito Nacional, respresenting 33% of the total population.
5 In India the survey was conducted in Mumbai, Delhi, Calcutta, and Chennai.
6 In Indonesia the survey was conducted in Jakarta, and Surabaya.
7 In Kazakhstan the survey was conducted in Astana, Almaty, Aktau, Atyrau, Aktubinsk, Karaganda, Kustanai, Kokshetau, Kzyl-Orda, Petropavlovsk, Pavlodar, Rudny, Semipalatinsk, Taraz, Temirtau, Ust-Kamenogorsk, Uralsk, Shymkent, and Ekibastus.
8 Greater Lima only.
9 In Tanzania the survey was conducted in Arusha, Dar es Salaam, Dodoma, Kilimanjaro, Mbeya, and Mwanza.
10 In Thailand the survey was conducted in Bangkok, and urban areas, representing 30% of the total adult population.
11 In Turkey the survey was conducted in Adana, Ankara, Antalya, Bursa, Diyarbakir, Erzurum, Istanbul, Izmir, Konya, Samsun, and Zonguldak, representing 46% of the total population.
12 Caracas only.

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As you can see, the results arn't very accurate. For isntance, Rio is a very liberal area in Brazil (they voted for Luiz "Lula" Silva by 80%, and one of the parties in his coalition is a communist part, and Sao Paulo supported him by 55%). In the Dominican Republic, they only surveyed the capital, which of course is going to be the most liberal.

You can view the survey results here (PDF)

No point to this post.

[Platypus]

come to Australia. Survey Sydney, Melbourne and Oodnadatta. If you asked every Australian, I can assure you, Bush would lose to Kerry. Bush would lose to Badnarik, too, probably. Bush would lose to just about anyone.

[A18]

Which means he's one of the greatest presidents we've ever had.

[Platypus]

Oh, and one last thing-2/3 of the polls were done nation-wide, Bram. Whilst the methods wern't perfect, the massive margins by which Kerry wins are reasonab;y conclusive.

[Gabu]

Yeah, I know of one single person where I live that's in favor of Bush.  Every single other person I've ever talked to hates Bush with a passion.  The 61-16% landslide for Kerry in Canada sounds about right.

[David S]

The Mock election at this forum shows that other nations support Kerry. So what? They don't get to vote.

[A18]

Other nations despise Bush because he's Christian, apparently.

[CollectiveInterest]

Other nations despise Bush because he's Christian, apparently.

What's it mean to be a Christian?

What other nations do you consider 'Christian' countries?

[A18]

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[CollectiveInterest]

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I assume you don't consider any other countries "Christian". Can you articulate what it takes for a country to be a "Christian" nation?

Have you ever traveled outside the United States? Where? When?

[A18]

Just a country influenced by Christianity. Europe is very secularistic.

[cwelsch]

I'm not sure agrarian or rural people would like Bush any more.

[cwelsch]

Hopefully you'd consider Vatican City a Christian country.  Plenty of countries have high rates of Christian affiliation and attendance, although not so much in Europe.

[AuH2O]

Bush would in a number of nations. Polls show he would destroy Kerry in Israel and beat him handily in some conservative European countries (i.e. Poland). He also would be very competitive in parts of Asia, like Thailand and Singapore.

[Platypus]

I'm not sure agrarian or rural people would like Bush any more.

especially in australia.

one of the reasosns the world doesn't like Bush is his hypocritic, evangelical christianity. Many many Australians are christians-about 70%. But most are not evangelical, and are tolerant of other religions and are not violent in their faith. Evangelicals have destroyed the american churches, and luckily the same hasn't yet happened here. Evangelicalism is as bad as hardcore islamic extremism or hindu extremism or jewish extremism or any religious extremism.

Bush is a religious extremist, and the world doesn't like it.

[Democratic Hawk]

Which means he's one of the greatest presidents we've ever had.

Great US presidents are not fetted with international contempt or ridicule, which kind of rules Bush out!

Dave

[A18]

Yes, they are

[nomorelies]

DEms abroad have been doing this for over 6 months.

[Platypus]

Yes, they are

No, they aren't.

TR, FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan and Clinton are all liked outside America-yes, een Reagan. We are less likely to be fond of Republicans, because they are more militaristic, nationalistic and jingoistic, but the letter (R) doesn't exclude you from having favourable world opinion.

[Judäischen Volksfront]

In thrid-world nations the urban areas are libertarian, while the rural areas are statist. There are different scales of "liberal" and "conservative". So, the polls are biased in favour of Bush. Remember last year's revolt in Bolivia? It started in the countryside because they were upset over the plan to sell gas to corps for low prices. Eventually the pro-Bush president resigned when riots started in the cities. It doesn't matter whether Kerry wins by 17% or 71%. DC will vote Bush before the world does.

[Brambila]

In thrid-world nations the urban areas are libertarian, while the rural areas are statist. There are different scales of "liberal" and "conservative". So, the polls are biased in favour of Bush. Remember last year's revolt in Bolivia? It started in the countryside because they were upset over the plan to sell gas to corps for low prices. Eventually the pro-Bush president resigned when riots started in the cities. It doesn't matter whether Kerry wins by 17% or 71%. DC will vote Bush before the world does.

That's a bit different of a situation. In Brazil at least, the countryside is very Catholic and pro-family (or Indian), thus they wouldn't vote for Kerry. I wouldn't say they are biased in favor of Bush, but rather that they are simply inaccurate. Libertarians probably would vote republican before they vote democrat.

[The Duke]

In thrid-world nations the urban areas are libertarian, while the rural areas are statist. There are different scales of "liberal" and "conservative". So, the polls are biased in favour of Bush. Remember last year's revolt in Bolivia? It started in the countryside because they were upset over the plan to sell gas to corps for low prices. Eventually the pro-Bush president resigned when riots started in the cities. It doesn't matter whether Kerry wins by 17% or 71%. DC will vote Bush before the world does.

If the cities are so libertarian, why did Sao Paolo support Lula da Silva?

[Hatman]

I dont know anyone personally who would vote Bush. Not even the conservative people I know. In fact, the Democrats would be considered conservative here. I'm thinking Nader might give Bush a run for his money for second place here. If Canada was part of the US, I think the only battle ground "state" would be Alberta.

[The Duke]

I dont know anyone personally who would vote Bush. Not even the conservative people I know. In fact, the Democrats would be considered conservative here. I'm thinking Nader might give Bush a run for his money for second place here. If Canada was part of the US, I think the only battle ground "state" would be Alberta.

Not even the Yukon?  Its just like Alaska.

Anyway, just because you don't know anyone who would vote Bush doesn't mean that much.  I'd agree that Canda is anti-Bush, but I'm not so sure that this poll accurately reflects the feelings of the international scene.

Even with its built in anti-Bush bias, Bush still wins Nigeria and the Phillipinnes and some other places, which says all that needs to be said about how overstated the anti-US sentiment by the Democrats.