Top Ten Presidents

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1.Washington
2.vacant
3.vacant
4.Teddy
5.vacant
6.vacant
7.Truman
8.vacant
9.Cleveland
10.William Henry Harrison

Why the hell would Harrison be in the top ten?  He spent almost his whole presidency in bed trying to recover from pneumonia!

I can think of a number of Presidents that I would rate higher if that was how their Presidency went.

[dead0man]

1.Washington
2.vacant
3.vacant
4.Teddy
5.vacant
6.vacant
7.Truman
8.vacant
9.Cleveland
10.William Henry Harrison

Why the hell would Harrison be in the top ten?  He spent almost his whole presidency in bed trying to recover from pneumonia!

Which is better than being out of bed and being an asshat like most of our Presidents.  Not their fault though, we, the idiots, vote them in.  You get the govt you deserve.

[HappyWarrior]

1) Washington
2) Truman
3) Lincoln
4)Cleveland
5) TR
6) FDR
7)LBJ
Jackson
9) Tyler
10) Polk

[Хahar 🤔]

Such lists are not meaningful, since comparing, say, John Adams to Lyndon Johnson is a futile exercise.

[12th Doctor]

I think its funny that so many people, who call George W. Bush a terrible President, in part because of his "illegal war" think that Polk belongs anywhere near the Top 10.

[JSojourner]

I think its funny that so many people, who call George W. Bush a terrible President, in part because of his "illegal war" think that Polk belongs anywhere near the Top 10.

That's one of the reasons I think Polk sucks.

[Alexander Hamilton]

How could anyone put LBJ? He was a monster.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

How could anyone put LBJ? He was a monster.

Oh yes, passing Civil Rights. What a shame

[Alexander Hamilton]

How could anyone put LBJ? He was a monster.

Oh yes, passing Civil Rights. What a shame

Congress passed Civil Rights. Kennedy could've and would've. And as if that outclasses any of his atrocities.

Wilson "passed" women's suffrage. Is he a great president?

I hate arguing with immature and ignorant libs who blindly support anyone with a D behind their name.

[Sewer]

1. George Washington
2. Theodore Roosevelt
3. Abraham Lincoln
4. Thomas Jefferson
5. Harry S. Truman
6. Dwight D. Eisenhower
7. James K. Polk
8. Lyndon B. Johnson
9. Chester A. Arthur
10. Bill Clinton

[JSojourner]

How could anyone put LBJ? He was a monster.

Oh yes, passing Civil Rights. What a shame

Congress passed Civil Rights. Kennedy could've and would've. And as if that outclasses any of his atrocities.

Wilson "passed" women's suffrage. Is he a great president?

I hate arguing with immature and ignorant libs who blindly support anyone with a D behind their name.

Well, there's a point I think both sides miss.

First, Johnson certainly did preside over one of the most unjust, unecessary and horrific American wars.  It is fair to point out that our involvement in SE Asia began under Eisenhower.  But Johnson, once sworn in, did a 180 from the direction Kennedy was moving -- getting us out of Vietnam.  (Read JFK And Vietnam for a thorough assessment of this.

Johnson's blind anti-Communism deluded him.  So you will find, in this liberal, a sharp critic of the Johnson foreign policy.  I don't think it can be condemned strongly enough, at least with regard to Southeast Asia.

But Lief's point about Civil Rights is quite apt.  Johnson did not just sign the Civil Rights Act into law.  He fought for it.  He cajoled, browbeat, prodded and begged key lawmakers in both parties to get behind it.  This was a man convinced to his very bones of the need for added protections for people of color.  Kennedy did not embrace Civil Rights with anything resembling the enthusiasm or passion of LBJ.  This is probably because he believed we weren't ready.  Or perhaps, as some Kennedy critics have suggested, because he was just too much the blue blood.  I don't know.

But while Wilson may have grudgingly signed Suffrage, Johnson made Civil Rights a cornerstone of his administration.  And then went on to reflect his concern for Civil Rights with his economic policy.

So take the man for what he was...on both counts. 

[Alexander Hamilton]

How could anyone put LBJ? He was a monster.

Oh yes, passing Civil Rights. What a shame

Congress passed Civil Rights. Kennedy could've and would've. And as if that outclasses any of his atrocities.

Wilson "passed" women's suffrage. Is he a great president?

I hate arguing with immature and ignorant libs who blindly support anyone with a D behind their name.

Well, there's a point I think both sides miss.

First, Johnson certainly did preside over one of the most unjust, unecessary and horrific American wars.  It is fair to point out that our involvement in SE Asia began under Eisenhower.  But Johnson, once sworn in, did a 180 from the direction Kennedy was moving -- getting us out of Vietnam.  (Read JFK And Vietnam for a thorough assessment of this.

Johnson's blind anti-Communism deluded him.  So you will find, in this liberal, a sharp critic of the Johnson foreign policy.  I don't think it can be condemned strongly enough, at least with regard to Southeast Asia.

But Lief's point about Civil Rights is quite apt.  Johnson did not just sign the Civil Rights Act into law.  He fought for it.  He cajoled, browbeat, prodded and begged key lawmakers in both parties to get behind it.  This was a man convinced to his very bones of the need for added protections for people of color.  Kennedy did not embrace Civil Rights with anything resembling the enthusiasm or passion of LBJ.  This is probably because he believed we weren't ready.  Or perhaps, as some Kennedy critics have suggested, because he was just too much the blue blood.  I don't know.

But while Wilson may have grudgingly signed Suffrage, Johnson made Civil Rights a cornerstone of his administration.  And then went on to reflect his concern for Civil Rights with his economic policy.

So take the man for what he was...on both counts. 

Anyone who can go from 1964 to unable to win their own parties nomination obviously did some very bad things throughout their term.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

How could anyone put LBJ? He was a monster.

Oh yes, passing Civil Rights. What a shame

Congress passed Civil Rights. Kennedy could've and would've. And as if that outclasses any of his atrocities.

Wilson "passed" women's suffrage. Is he a great president?

I hate arguing with immature and ignorant libs who blindly support anyone with a D behind their name.

And I hate arguing with fellows who instead of arguing goes personal

I doubt Kennedy could have pass civil rights. He did not wield such influence there, particulary in the Senate, as LBJ did.

And Kennedy would not try to pass in his 1st term, because he did not wanted to piss Southern Democrats.

LBJ, with his Senate influence, was right person on right place.

[Alexander Hamilton]

How could anyone put LBJ? He was a monster.

Oh yes, passing Civil Rights. What a shame

Congress passed Civil Rights. Kennedy could've and would've. And as if that outclasses any of his atrocities.

Wilson "passed" women's suffrage. Is he a great president?

I hate arguing with immature and ignorant libs who blindly support anyone with a D behind their name.

And I hate arguing with fellows who instead of arguing goes personal

I doubt Kennedy could have pass civil rights. He did not wield such influence there, particulary in the Senate, as LBJ did.

And Kennedy would not try to pass in his 1st term, because he did not wanted to piss Southern Democrats.

LBJ, with his Senate influence, was right person on right place.

You're right. Without LBJ, there would have been at least 24 more "No" votes. Come on, do you actually believe that LBJ was the reason 24 US Senators supported a bill?

[JSojourner]

How could anyone put LBJ? He was a monster.

Oh yes, passing Civil Rights. What a shame

Congress passed Civil Rights. Kennedy could've and would've. And as if that outclasses any of his atrocities.

Wilson "passed" women's suffrage. Is he a great president?

I hate arguing with immature and ignorant libs who blindly support anyone with a D behind their name.

Well, there's a point I think both sides miss.

First, Johnson certainly did preside over one of the most unjust, unecessary and horrific American wars.  It is fair to point out that our involvement in SE Asia began under Eisenhower.  But Johnson, once sworn in, did a 180 from the direction Kennedy was moving -- getting us out of Vietnam.  (Read JFK And Vietnam for a thorough assessment of this.

Johnson's blind anti-Communism deluded him.  So you will find, in this liberal, a sharp critic of the Johnson foreign policy.  I don't think it can be condemned strongly enough, at least with regard to Southeast Asia.

But Lief's point about Civil Rights is quite apt.  Johnson did not just sign the Civil Rights Act into law.  He fought for it.  He cajoled, browbeat, prodded and begged key lawmakers in both parties to get behind it.  This was a man convinced to his very bones of the need for added protections for people of color.  Kennedy did not embrace Civil Rights with anything resembling the enthusiasm or passion of LBJ.  This is probably because he believed we weren't ready.  Or perhaps, as some Kennedy critics have suggested, because he was just too much the blue blood.  I don't know.

But while Wilson may have grudgingly signed Suffrage, Johnson made Civil Rights a cornerstone of his administration.  And then went on to reflect his concern for Civil Rights with his economic policy.

So take the man for what he was...on both counts. 

Anyone who can go from 1964 to unable to win their own parties nomination obviously did some very bad things throughout their term.

The only bad thing he did was Vietnam.  But it was enough of a boner to cost him any chance at re-election.

[k-onmmunist]

1. George Washington
2. James K Polk
3. Thomas Jefferson
4. Grover Cleveland
5. Calvin Coolidge
6. Abraham Lincoln
7. Chester Arthur
8. Andrew Jackson
9. George H.W. Bush
10. James Monroe

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Congress passed Civil Rights. Kennedy could've and would've. And as if that outclasses any of his atrocities.

Wilson "passed" women's suffrage. Is he a great president?

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 would not have passed in the form it did without LBJ.  He was the only President skilled enough to ensure that it was not watered down to a meaningless bill.

And yes, Wilson was a great President.

[JSojourner]

Congress passed Civil Rights. Kennedy could've and would've. And as if that outclasses any of his atrocities.

Wilson "passed" women's suffrage. Is he a great president?

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 would not have passed in the form it did without LBJ.  He was the only President skilled enough to ensure that it was not watered down to a meaningless bill.

And yes, Wilson was a great President.

Disagree on Wilson but you're right about LBJ.  Kennedy was not as committed to Civil Rights as Johnson, or as his brother became.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Kennedy was not as committed to Civil Rights as Johnson, or as his brother became.

To me, it's more about the fact that LBJ was the most skilled politician we've ever had.  Kennedy was committed, but he just would not have been able to do what LBJ did.  See what Johnson was able to do with Everett Dirksen; JFK would've been unable to do that.

[JSojourner]

Kennedy was not as committed to Civil Rights as Johnson, or as his brother became.

To me, it's more about the fact that LBJ was the most skilled politician we've ever had.  Kennedy was committed, but he just would not have been able to do what LBJ did.  See what Johnson was able to do with Everett Dirksen; JFK would've been unable to do that.

"The treatment".  Oh, to be a fly on the wall and watch Johnson work his magic.

[Mechaman]

Kennedy was not as committed to Civil Rights as Johnson, or as his brother became.

To me, it's more about the fact that LBJ was the most skilled politician we've ever had.  Kennedy was committed, but he just would not have been able to do what LBJ did.  See what Johnson was able to do with Everett Dirksen; JFK would've been unable to do that.

"The treatment".  Oh, to be a fly on the wall and watch Johnson work his magic.

I heard it said once about LBJ:

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[nhmagic]

1. Abraham Lincoln (R)
2. George Washington (F, would be an R if living today)
3. John Adams (F, but by today's standards would be an R)
4. Ronald Reagan (R)
5. Harry Truman (D)
6. John Kennedy (D) - for the moon push at least and first tax cuts in awhile
7. Calvin Coolidge (R)
8. Thomas Jefferson (D) - I hate some of the stuff he did though
9. George W. Bush (R) - can we count the first 5 years
10. Bill Clinton (D)

[Psychic Octopus]

1. Abraham Lincoln (R)
2. George Washington (F, would be an R if living today)
3. John Adams (F, but by today's standards would be an R)
4. Ronald Reagan (R)
5. Harry Truman (D)
6. John Kennedy (D) - for the moon push at least and first tax cuts in awhile
7. Calvin Coolidge (R)
8. Thomas Jefferson (D) - I hate some of the stuff he did though
9. George W. Bush (R) - can we count the first 5 years
10. Bill Clinton (D)

Intresting list. Be prepared for a Democratic barrage of insults.

[WillK]

1. Abraham Lincoln (R)
2. George Washington (F, would be an R if living today)
3. John Adams (F, but by today's standards would be an R)
4. Ronald Reagan (R)
5. Harry Truman (D)
6. John Kennedy (D) - for the moon push at least and first tax cuts in awhile
7. Calvin Coolidge (R)
8. Thomas Jefferson (D) - I hate some of the stuff he did though
9. George W. Bush (R) - can we count the first 5 years
10. Bill Clinton (D)

Intresting list. Be prepared for a Democratic barrage of insults.

I dont know why he would be insulted since he picked as many Ds as he did Rs  and in my opinion his first three and his 10th pick were very good and 5 and 6 are ok. So mostly a decent list.    9 is a bizarre choice and it doesnt make sense to me that he would pick 8 and then say he hates what he did.   

[WillK]

In chronological order:

Washington
Adams
Monroe
Lincoln
Grant
Cleveland
Roosevelt
Roosevelt
Eisenhower
Clinton