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You are John Kerry
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August 02, 2009, 01:09:49 pm »
You are John Kerry, who just became 2004 Democratic Party presumptive presidential nominee
You have to choose your-running-mate
Note: You cannot chose Edwards
Who's you choice?
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Zell Miller
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Quote from: Country First, Party Last on August 02, 2009, 01:12:29 pm
Zell Miller
No
I would NOT choose Warner, Richardson, Gephardt, or anyone who wasn't exciting enough. I would probably go with John Breaux.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Quote from: Country First, Party Last on August 02, 2009, 01:12:29 pm
Zell Miller
Oh yes...
If Kerry so badly wanted to lose, he really should choose Miller. 5% of votes for Nader...
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Gephardt of course.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Maine governor John Baldacci.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Barack Obama
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Alexander Hamilton
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Gray Davis LMAO
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Re: You are John Kerry
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August 02, 2009, 10:23:27 pm »
Either John Breaux or Mark Warner.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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August 02, 2009, 10:42:45 pm »
Probably Warner or Gephart. Bayh would also be a distinct possibility. Ideally, it would be a democrat that sticks to his guns relatively well and have been elected in a very conservative area. Brad Henry or Dave Fruedenthal look like good choices, but these oil-field democrats aren't very ambitious.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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August 02, 2009, 10:53:59 pm »
He should have chosen someone like Dean (but not Dean) who would stay in the news and generate some kind of energy.
But he should also have appointed Mark Warner as potential emperor for life upon his winning. That would almost surely have guaranteed a floor of 96% of the vote.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Quote from: Glowy the Weasel on August 02, 2009, 10:42:45 pm
Probably Warner or Gephart. Bayh would also be a distinct possibility. Ideally, it would be a democrat that sticks to his guns relatively well and have been elected in a very conservative area. Brad Henry or Dave Fruedenthal look like good choices, but these oil-field democrats aren't very ambitious.
Oh yeah I forgot about dear old Brad. But I already picked him in the "You are Barack Obama" scenario to deflect claims that Obama would be a gun grabbing envirofacist socialist.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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John McCain.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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August 03, 2009, 01:15:26 pm »
He second choice was Bob Graham
Bob Graham
Dick Gephardt
Howard Dean.
John Edwards would of made a better candidate at the top of the tickey, he wasn't an effective communicator at the vice presidency level.
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bhouston79
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Re: You are John Kerry
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August 04, 2009, 11:18:00 pm »
Mark Warner because he puts Virginia in play in 2004. Putting Virginia in play would have forced Bush to defend more turf, making other battlegrounds like Ohio, New Mexico, Iowa, Nevada, and Florida a little more vulnerable and harder to defend. John Edwards never really put North Carolina in play.
Bob Graham of Florida would have been an excellent pick too.
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Quote from: SOEA HappyWarrior on August 02, 2009, 09:05:46 pm
Gephardt of course.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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McCain if he had accepted. Howard Dean would also be great.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Bob Graham (Florida, Florida, Florida!)
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Re: You are John Kerry
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McCain would have been great on paper, but wouldn't have made GOP voters to switch.
Nunn and Lugar would have had to be considered because of the mood at that time.
But, Strickland not being enough known at the time, I would have picked
Evan Bayh
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Remember Kerry lost because of big GOP GOTV and many referendums, questions, polls on social and values issues.
So, Bayh would have been meant to cut all these operations.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Quote from: big bad fab on August 18, 2009, 03:47:16 am
McCain would have been great on paper, but wouldn't have made GOP voters to switch.
Nunn and Lugar would have had to be considered because of the mood at that time.
But, Strickland not being enough known at the time, I would have picked
Evan Bayh
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Remember Kerry lost because of big GOP GOTV and many referendums, questions, polls on social and values issues.
So, Bayh would have been meant to cut all these operations.
Kerry McCain holds NM and IA, gains NH as in RL and picks up AZ.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Quote from: phknrocket1k on August 18, 2009, 05:07:41 am
Quote from: big bad fab on August 18, 2009, 03:47:16 am
McCain would have been great on paper, but wouldn't have made GOP voters to switch.
Nunn and Lugar would have had to be considered because of the mood at that time.
But, Strickland not being enough known at the time, I would have picked
Evan Bayh
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Remember Kerry lost because of big GOP GOTV and many referendums, questions, polls on social and values issues.
So, Bayh would have been meant to cut all these operations.
Kerry McCain holds NM and IA, gains NH as in RL and picks up AZ.
Not sure for AZ, nor for IA.
While not being bad in Iowa, Florida, Missouri, Bayh may have won Ohio and that's the key.
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Re: You are John Kerry
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August 21, 2009, 08:21:29 am »
Evan Bayh. He's fairly young, hails from a conservative state, and is a centrist, which could have made the difference.
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Quote from: big bad fab on August 18, 2009, 03:47:16 am
McCain would have been great on paper, but wouldn't have made GOP voters to switch.
Nunn and Lugar would have had to be considered because of the mood at that time.
But, Strickland not being enough known at the time, I would have picked
Evan Bayh
.
Remember Kerry lost because of big GOP GOTV and many referendums, questions, polls on social and values issues.
So, Bayh would have been meant to cut all these operations.
McCain would help with independents in 2004
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Right but he may have been too much for some Dems.
And he may have said some "gaffes"... And on foreign policy matters, Bush campaign would have found many contrarian points between the 2.
So, I'm not so sure.
A risky choice. And, as you've said that I AM John Kerry, I CHOOSE Evan Bayh and YOU are fired from my staff !
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Re: You are John Kerry
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Bob Graham. If Kerry could carry Florida, and still carry Wisconsin, he wins.
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