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« on: October 10, 2004, 09:23:56 PM »

Knowing Kerry, I think he is saving his biggest wad for the last week of the campaign.

He did his against Dean before the Iowa Caucas. He did this again Governor Weld in the Senator Race.

I firmly believe that Kerry will hit Bush sometime after the 21st with something that will tip the scale 2-5 points his way like he did.

If you think about it. Kerry has not said a great deal about Bush on some issues, and he is sitting a huge wad of cash, even more than Bush now.

Knowing Karl Rove, he doesn't like to lose, and has been said, even by fellow Republicans, the he will do ANYTHING it takes to make sure he wins. He Hates to LOSE.

Just look at the number they did on a good man like John McCain.

What surprises do you expect.
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2004, 09:32:12 PM »

It would take a helluva surprise to move this race 2 to 5 pts either way.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2004, 09:35:02 PM »


What kind of surprise though, Donovan?  Give an example, not a Kerry-ism.

A Bush October surprise would be capturing Bin Laden or finding WMDs in Iraq now that there is a report saying there isn't any.  What would be Kerry's Surprise?
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2004, 09:35:15 PM »
« Edited: October 10, 2004, 09:39:05 PM by Shira »

Knowing Kerry, I think he is saving his biggest wad for the last week of the campaign.

He did his against Dean before the Iowa Caucas. He did this again Governor Weld in the Senator Race.

I firmly believe that Kerry will hit Bush sometime after the 21st with something that will tip the scale 2-5 points his way like he did.

If you think about it. Kerry has not said a great deal about Bush on some issues, and he is sitting a huge wad of cash, even more than Bush now.

Knowing Karl Rove, he doesn't like to lose, and has been said, even by fellow Republicans, the he will do ANYTHING it takes to make sure he wins. He Hates to LOSE.

Just look at the number they did on a good man like John McCain.

What surprises do you expect.


I don’t expect any surprise.
It could be very helpful if a non-official but well recognized and respected Kerry person would have come with the following:

“Mr. President, what is the real reason for the war in Iraq?”

“Mr. President many journalists and political analysts are claiming that you and your people started planning the war immediately when you took office on January of  2001, long before 9/11. Your response, please.”

A good fit for this task could be H.Dean.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2004, 09:35:23 PM »

Kerry Campaign:

-Bush did coke while supposedly on duty for the ANG.
-Bush ignored Feb. '03 memo from Colin Powell strongly warning against invading Iraq without international support.

Bush Campaign:

-Kerry had ties to radical leftist groups attempting to overthrow government in early 1970s (maybe the SLA or something like that).
-Teresa Heinz gets high on rubbing alcohol.
-Kerry quoted as saying the hunt for OBL "unimportant."

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2004, 09:42:05 PM »

-Kerry quoted as saying the hunt for OBL "unimportant."

Well, there is this:

"I don't know where [Osama bin Laden] is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him. .... I truly am not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, Press Conference, March 13, 2002
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2004, 09:47:31 PM »

-Kerry quoted as saying the hunt for OBL "unimportant."

Well, there is this:

"I don't know where [Osama bin Laden] is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him. .... I truly am not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, Press Conference, March 13, 2002

Still wouldn't prevent the Bush campaign from taking a Kerry quote out of context.

Bush misspeaks roughly 10 times a day.  Kerry misspeaks several times in the course of 10 months, and every single one of his misspeakings becomes a Bush soundbite.  If Kerry campaigned like Bush did, we'd be hearing over and over again from Kerry:

"President Bush thinks the war on terror is unwinnable.  Do you really want a commander-in-chief who thinks we can't win this war?"

Actually, were I the nominee, I'd be milking that Today Show quote for all it was worth.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2004, 09:49:36 PM »

Rumor has it that there is a video floating around out there of a 1971 clip Of Kerry and his Viet Vets Against the War burning an American flag.

I don't believe it because some things are just too good to be true.  Haha.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2004, 09:54:00 PM »

Rumor has it that there is a video floating around out there of a 1971 clip Of Kerry and his Viet Vets Against the War burning an American flag.

I don't believe it because some things are just too good to be true.  Haha.

Even if it were true the impact would be around the zero.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2004, 09:55:04 PM »

Oh, I doubt that.
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2004, 09:56:40 PM »

Rumor has it that there is a video floating around out there of a 1971 clip Of Kerry and his Viet Vets Against the War burning an American flag.

I don't believe it because some things are just too good to be true.  Haha.

Even if it were true the impact would be around the zero.

I doubt it would be zero, but it wouldn't be a big impact.  For those of us old enough to remember Kerry in the 70s, we already view him as a traitor and burning of the flag wouldn't surprise us.
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2004, 10:00:37 PM »

Rumor has it that there is a video floating around out there of a 1971 clip Of Kerry and his Viet Vets Against the War burning an American flag.

I don't believe it because some things are just too good to be true.  Haha.

Even if it were true the impact would be around the zero.

Nothing would energize the GOP/ Vet base more.  There would be a grassroots effort in all 50 states to destroy John Kerry at the polls.

While all of the cafe latte liberals scratch their heads over what all the fuss was about, Bush goes on to win 45 states.
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2004, 10:00:56 PM »

It would be a powerful visual however.  Not a pretty image.  Not going to happen however.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2004, 10:02:40 PM »

Bush could always put Osama's head on a pike and parade through NY.
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2004, 10:18:35 PM »

We could end it with a Darfurian slave whispering in his ear, "remember, thou art mortal".
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2004, 10:23:22 PM »

Bush could always put Osama's head on a pike and parade through NY.

Oooh, that's not nice.  Dovonan would be worried about the head possibly being deported because it didn't have a visa. :-)



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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2004, 11:22:01 PM »

Bush could always put Osama's head on a pike and parade through NY.

Oooh, that's not nice.  Dovonan would be worried about the head possibly being deported because it didn't have a visa. :-)





No, that is the difference between me and the Republicans, I want Bin laudins head on a pike, or better yet on the ground to kick around. I would like to grab that long beard, swing his head around about fling it into a giant mulching machine while his is still alive, tarred an feathered.

It is BUSH that says he is not concerned about finding this man that killed 3,000 Americans on AMERICAN Soil. NOt the Democrats. Keep that straight when you go vote.
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2004, 11:43:24 PM »

Every day I check Drudge just waiting for an Oct. suprise by either candidate. 
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2004, 11:43:47 PM »

No, Bush is concerned about preventing it from happening again.  Kerry regards it as a "nuisance" and equates it with prostitution, something that can't be prevented only reduced.  

That's the difference between the two candidates.  I guess that's the difference between you Abdonoval and the rest of the electorate.

I frankly never thought I'd hear an American presidental nominee out either party utter those words.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2004, 11:44:38 PM »

Bush could always put Osama's head on a pike and parade through NY.

Oooh, that's not nice.  Dovonan would be worried about the head possibly being deported because it didn't have a visa. :-)

We could put it on a pike outside the White House as a warning to the next ten generations that some prices are too high.
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2004, 11:46:00 PM »

BTW:  Here is the link to the exact quote: 

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=873
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2004, 11:49:35 PM »

No, Bush is concerned about preventing it from happening again.  Kerry regards it as a "nuisance" and equates it with prostitution, something that can't be prevented only reduced.  

That's the difference between the two candidates.  I guess that's the difference between you Abdonoval and the rest of the electorate.

I frankly never thought I'd hear an American presidental nominee out either party utter those words.

I guess you missed it when Bush said he wasn't concerned about capturing UBL.

Mr Bush also said we cannot win the war on terrorism.

Why didn't Bush stop the attacks in the first place if he thinks he can?
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2004, 11:50:44 PM »


Do you really want to start quoting Kerry and Bush to see who says the dumbest things?
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2004, 11:51:39 PM »

Kerry is effectively saying, "It won't make a difference."  It sounds like the French in 1940.
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2004, 11:54:01 PM »

Bush could always put Osama's head on a pike and parade through NY.

Oooh, that's not nice.  Dovonan would be worried about the head possibly being deported because it didn't have a visa. :-)

We could put it on a pike outside the White House as a warning to the next ten generations that some prices are too high.

I will point that Mr. Morden's head only when up on the pike after the Shadow fleet was destroyed.  Londo had his priorities strate for at least a day.
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