Redistribution is coming up...

[deansherratt]

Federally it will take awhile and msut await the 2011 Census. I know the Conservatives have amended the formula to create a few more ridings in Ontario but an interesting question will be if they will preside over their creation.

I am sure that the Commission didn't work to prevent the creation of Conservative seats in Toronto - but their random efforts paid off brilliantly for the Liberals. Every large centre of Conservative polls seen in the 2008 election is separated by a greater bloc of Liberal polls. In central Toronto, you might have a Conservative riding based on North Toronto/Don Valley if the incredibly Liberal eastern polls were hived off. So too, a predominatly Jewish riding based on Eglinton Lawrence and York Centre would have elected a Conservative MP in 2008, had not very strongly Liberal italian polls not prevented this. As it was, both ridings were the most strongly Conservative in the city. 

[Smid]

It will be interesting to see how it turns out.

[Hatman 🍁]

Once we get all the poll maps in, we can begin to gerrymander some districts.

One thing will be for sure, there is no way you're getting a Conservative seat in Montreal, unless you got house by house results

[MaxQue]

Once we get all the poll maps in, we can begin to gerrymander some districts.

One thing will be for sure, there is no way you're getting a Conservative seat in Montreal, unless you got house by house results

Even then, that will not be enough.

[Хahar 🤔]

Please put Saskatoon in one riding. Or, at least, have a Saskatoon riding.

[MaxQue]

Please put Saskatoon in one riding. Or, at least, have a Saskatoon riding.

They tried, but the population opposed during public consultations. There was three urban ridings in Saskatoon and two in Regina.

Regina was splitted in the rural seat of Qu'Appelle and the urban seat of Wascana and Pasqua. (not the Pasqua of 80's gerrymandering in France)

Saskatoon was splitted in Broadway, Meewasin and Idylwyld. (Hi, Al, I suppose, with that name. Sounds welsh.)

[deansherratt]

How about the possible riding of Montreal-Est-La Beauce...

[Hash]

I don't suppose Canada has some map applet like Geoclip.fr with maps and population numbers for all municipalities, divisions and so forth?

[Linus Van Pelt]

Ironically, when they first brought in the rural-urban ridings (in the post-1991 round, I believe), they were criticized as being a pro-NDP gerrymander, because they would dilute Reform's rural strength.

[Hatman 🍁]

I don't suppose Canada has some map applet like Geoclip.fr with maps and population numbers for all municipalities, divisions and so forth?

Oh dear. You've not been to Statistics Canada's website? Geosearch is from the Gods themselves.

I plan on experimenting with some gerrymandered districts in Ottawa. Sandy Hill and the market belong in Ottawa Centre, while Carlington and maybe Carleton Heights should be given to Ottawa West-Nepean. Beacon Hill South can go to Ottawa-Vanier. I'm not sure why those two neightbouhoods (Beacon Hill and Carlington) were split up...

[MaxQue]

How about the possible riding of Montreal-Est-La Beauce...

Beauce is near Quebec City, not Montreal.

[MaxQue]

I don't suppose Canada has some map applet like Geoclip.fr with maps and population numbers for all municipalities, divisions and so forth?

Oh dear. You've not been to Statistics Canada's website? Geosearch is from the Gods themselves.

What is Geosearch?

[deansherratt]

If I need to create a Montreal riding, Beauce is close enough...if all I need to do is connect highways and occasional hamlets in between!

[MaxQue]

If I need to create a Montreal riding, Beauce is close enough...if all I need to do is connect highways and occasional hamlets in between!

There is 300 kilometers between those two.

[deansherratt]

Dear Senator...Do look at some US districts which can achieve quite similar results (but of course I was making the suggestion tongue in cheek).

[MaxQue]

Dear Senator...Do look at some US districts which can achieve quite similar results (but of course I was making the suggestion tongue in cheek).

MaxQue, not Senator, who is a stupid title from Atlasia.

Yes, but 300 kilometers? Canada ridings are much less populated than US districts and South Shore is not that unpopulated. The problem is Montreal suburbs, heavily populated and heavily Bloquiste.

[Hash]

The best district would be joining Oklahoma with Beauce. Similar intelligence levels.

[Hatman 🍁]

I don't suppose Canada has some map applet like Geoclip.fr with maps and population numbers for all municipalities, divisions and so forth?

Oh dear. You've not been to Statistics Canada's website? Geosearch is from the Gods themselves.

What is Geosearch?

Oh dear me...

http://geodepot.statcan.ca/GeoSearch2006/GeoSearch2006.jsp?resolution=H&lang=E&otherLang=F

[MaxQue]

I don't suppose Canada has some map applet like Geoclip.fr with maps and population numbers for all municipalities, divisions and so forth?

Oh dear. You've not been to Statistics Canada's website? Geosearch is from the Gods themselves.

What is Geosearch?

Oh dear me...

http://geodepot.statcan.ca/GeoSearch2006/GeoSearch2006.jsp?resolution=H&lang=E&otherLang=F

Well, they hidden it deeply into Statistics Canada's website. And that is bilingual!

On second thought, French is a official language and Statictics Canada is the government.

[deansherratt]

Looking at it seriously, there are not likely to be many changes. Quebec is likely to retain its 75 seats by the current formula...some rural seats might get squeezed while some larger urban ridings might shed some territory but I wouldn't expect anything drastic.

Why the critiques of our Beauceans (or Beauceists?)? Francophone and Federalist.

[trebor204]

My understanding is that the formula to calculate seats will change following the 2011 Census.
Right now only BC, Alberta and Ontario will gain seats (using the proposed formula) The remaining provinces won't gain or lose any seats. Unless a province sees a major increase in population (ie Millions) between now and 2011.

[MaxQue]

My understanding is that the formula to calculate seats will change following the 2011 Census.
Right now only BC, Alberta and Ontario will gain seats (using the proposed formula) The remaining provinces won't gain or lose any seats. Unless a province sees a major increase in population (ie Millions) between now and 2011.

No, Harper proposed a change, but this is not yet a law.