Ohio Sen. George Voinovich-the problem with the GOP is the rednecks
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2009, 08:33:50 AM »

Rednecks are the problem?

This whole thing about Republicans wanting to bailout the wealthy, and telling everyone else to go to hell, isn't hurting? O_o

Bingo. The problem is that Republicans don't really stand for much of anything anymore. So as a result they're losing not just a lot of potential voters but formally reliable conservatives and/or libertarians. People think of the Republican leadership at this point as consisting pretty much entirely of incompetents, religious lunatics, and mealy mouthed losers. In other words, a freak show. The only way they'll ever gain support again is to pretty much cast off the entire old guard and start recruiting a very different crop of candidates. Re-hashing the same failures from prior campaigns isn't going to cut it... Unless they want sacrificial lambs.
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2009, 01:29:49 PM »

Bono, a Federal law mandating concealed carry reciprocity would be just as constitutional as for example a Federal law mandating that marriage reciprocity (i.e. States could be forced to recognize gay marriages).  Neither proposed law would be constitutional though, as they both contravene the 10th Amendment.

It would be constitutional under the full faith and credit clause. The proposed law would respect the public policy exception, since the two states that do not allow concealed carry would still not be required to recognize any permits.

No, it would make a mockery of the public policy exception.

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In that case a Massachusetts employee of a Massachusetts company with a California subsidiary was injured while temporarily at the California subsidiary. Both California and Massachusetts had workman's compensation laws, and the employee was entitled to file a lawsuit under California law, but not under Massachusetts law. (Massachusetts law at the time allowed employment contracts to require the use of binding arbitration for such claims, California law explicitly banned employment contracts from having binding arbitration.) The court held 8-0 that California was not required to use Massachusetts' law to determine whether the employee could file suit in a California court of law.

Similarly, a state may not be required to use the law of another state to determine if a person may carry a concealed weapon, nor may it be required to accept the validity of marriages contracted in another state if such marriages could not be legally entered into in that state.

Federalism means that on these issues, as well as many others, each State decides for itself what shall be the proper policy in that State, without the interference of other States.
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« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2009, 12:15:58 AM »

Haha, he's an HP of course but for the day he shall be considered an FF.
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« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2009, 04:29:19 AM »

the problem with the GOP is with that attempt to adhere to the bible?

what an idiotic comment
Which one? Where does the bible command to "get on TV and go err, err"?

I must have missed 60 Minutes.  What are you saying?

That's pretty much all that Voinovich himself is quoted as saying in the Original Post. It wasn't about Christian Fundamentalists, it was a regionalist attack on Southerners. Especially on whitetrashy Southerners. Thus your comment struck me as rather unrelated.

How reasonable it was is another matter. And of course the gist is clear anyhow. And of course Voinovich may have been saying more that wasn't quoted verbatim.
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« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2009, 11:20:33 AM »

He would've never have said this if he wasn't retiring.
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