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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2011, 12:45:46 pm »
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I've decided to redo this, but with more detail. First is with hindsight; second is without hindsight - how I would have voted at the time (2004 and after, how my persona then would have voted).

1867: Conservative (Sir John A. Macdonald)
1872: Liberal (Edward Blake)
1874: Liberal (Alexander Mackenzie)
1878: Liberal (Alexander Mackenzie)
1882: Liberal (Edward Blake)
1887: Liberal (Edward Blake)
1891: Liberal (Wilfrid Laurier)
1896: Liberal (Wilfrid Laurier)
1900: Liberal (Wilfrid Laurier)
1904: Liberal (Wilfrid Laurier)
1908: Liberal (Wilfrid Laurier)
1911: Liberal (Wilfrid Laurier)
1917: Opposition Liberals (Wilfrid Laurier)
1921: Progressive (T.A. Crerar)
1925: Progressive (Robert Forke)
1926: Progressive (Robert Forke) / Liberal (W.L. Mackenzie King)
1930: Liberal (W.L. Mackenzie King) / Conservative (R.B. Bennett)
1935: CCF (J.S. Woodsworth) / Liberal (W.L. Mackenzie King)
1940: Liberal (W.L. Mackenzie King)
1945: Liberal (W.L. Mackenzie King)
1949: Liberal (Louis St. Laurent)
1953: Liberal (Louis St. Laurent)
1957: Liberal (Louis St. Laurent) / Progressive Conservative (John Diefenbaker)
1958: Liberal (Lester B. Pearson / Progressive Conservative (John Diefenbaker)
1962: Liberal (Lester B. Pearson)
1963: Liberal (Lester B. Pearson)
1968: Liberal (Pierre Trudeau)
1972: Progressive Conservative (Robert Stanfield)
1974: Liberal (Pierre Trudeau)
1979: Liberal (Pierre Trudeau) / Progressive Conservative (Joe Clark)
1980: Liberal (Pierre Trudeau)
1984: Rhino (Cornelius I) / Progressive Conservative (Brian Mulroney)
1988: Rhino (Charles McKenzie) / Progressive Conservative (Brian Mulroney)
1993: Liberal (Jean Chrétien)
1997: Liberal (Jean Chrétien)
2000: Liberal (Jean Chrétien)
2004: Liberal (Paul Martin) / NDP (Jack Layton)
2006: Liberal (Paul Martin) / Conservative (Stephen Harper)
2008: Liberal (Stéphane Dion) / Green (Elizabeth May)
2011: Liberal (Michael Ignatieff)

Explanations:
1926 - Mackenzie King's true motives were not good and his 26-30 term was fail, so with hindsight I'd have voted for the only decent party out there; but without hindsight I'd have enthusiastically voted Liberal.
1930 - I'd probably have bough into Bennett's lies and fraud platform of some sort of New Deal-type social reform. With hindsight, I'd have voted Liberal if only to guard against Bennett's reactionary fascist-funding regime.
1957/1958 - Without hindsight, I'd have fallen for Diefenbaker's populist rush strategy and all that, but in hindsight the Liberals were far more better than Diefenbaker's fraud populism and incompetence
1984/1988 - Without hindsight, I would have like Mulroney, but with hindsight he was a corrupt failure and while Turner/Broadbent were decent leaders, the Rhinos rock.
2004 - I was a socialist back then.
2006 - I was a retarded idiot kid back then. So I'd have fallen for Harper's usual fraud, lies and bullsh**t easily. I recall being a Harperista idiot back then.
2008 - Green without hindsight as I was then; strategic anti-Tory with hindsight.
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« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2011, 08:42:29 pm »
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Who I actually supported (since the first election I can remember in 1993)

*1993 - ok, so I was 7... I remember liking Kim Campbell because she was a woman... I guess I was a feminist from the early stages. I was disappointed to find out she wasn't a Liberal, and I knew the Liberals were the best, or that's how the general feeling in the country was. I don't think I ever did make a decision.
*1997 - I would have voted Liberal, I think. I can remember drawing maps and everything for this election, and liking the Liberals...
*2000 - I decided I didn't like my MP at the time (John Manley) because of something one of my teachers said in my elementary school's green team a few years prior. At this stage in my life, I was beginning to have political opinions, and I knew I wasn't "right wing", a term I had learned the year prior. This was my first year of high school, and I supported the NDP candidate. I saw but one of her signs on the way to school, and decided to make my own.

In the interim, I was not a committed New Democrat by any means, and was very much in favour of Dalton McGuinty, and was a big supporter of his during the 2003 provincial election. I was just happy to see Mike Harris go away. My love for him soon went away however. While I supported McGuinty, I still liked the federal NDP and its leader Alexa McDonough. I supported Bill Blaikie for the 2003 NDP leadership, and considered joining the party to vote, but it never came to fruition.

*2004: The last election before I became 18 (I turned 18 two months after the election). I was a big NDP supporter by then, but I read in the paper that our local candidate (Monia Mazigh) was against same-sex marriage the day before the election. I changed my support to the Greens at that point, but just in my riding.

*2006: My first election where I could vote. I voted for Henri Sader (NDP), and I worked on his campaign.

*2008: I had just moved to Ottawa Centre in the spring and got t vote for Paul Dewar (NDP), the incumbent Smiley. One of the few people I've voted for in my life who have won! I worked on the Ottawa South campaign however.

*2011: Voting for Paul again. And working in Ottawa South still.
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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2011, 05:06:20 am »
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If you had asked me this question in 2003, I'd have said NDP for every election
If you asked in 2005, I'd have said Liberal, straight through
2007 and I'd pick all Tories

But lets see what mindset I was at, at the time.

The 2000 election was the first that I was old enough to know what was going on. I'd have voted liberal.

In 2004 I voted Liberal
In 2006 I voted Conservative
In 2008 I voted Green
In 2009 I plan to either vote for the Liberals or the Greens

What about in the past?

In 1867 I'd have voted anti-confederate
In 1921 I'd have voted Progressive
In 1979 I'd have voted PC
And again in 1980


Beyond that its really hard to say.

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I'll be voting Green.
In 1867 I'd have voted Conservative
And I'd have voted PC in 1979, 1980, 1984, 1988, and 1993, and Liberal or PC in 1997 and 2000.

Also, If the Bloc were running here in Toronto, I'd have voted for them at every chance, but if I were in Quebec, I'd never ever vote Bloc, because I am not an "ethnic quebecois"
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2011, 11:10:15 am »
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This is all with hindsight. Without hindsight I'd probably vote Dief in '58 and Chretien 3 times.


1867: Conservative  (Sir John A. Macdonald)


1872: Liberal (Edward Blake)
1874: Liberal (Alexander Mackenzie)
1878: Liberal (Alexander Mackenzie)
1882: Liberal (Edward Blake)
1887: Liberal (Edward Blake)
1891: Liberal (Wilfrid Laurier)
1896: Liberal (Wilfrid Laurier)
1900: Liberal (Sir Wilfrid Laurier)
1904: Liberal (Sir Wilfrid Laurier)
1908: Liberal (Sir Wilfrid Laurier)
1911: Liberal (Sir Wilfrid Laurier)


1917: Unionist (Sir Robert Borden)



1921: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1925: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1926: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1930: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1935: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1940: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1945: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1949: Liberal (Louis St. Laurent)
1953: Liberal (Louis St. Laurent)
1957: Liberal (Louis St. Laurent)
1958: Liberal (Lester Pearson)
1962: Liberal (Lester Pearson)
1963: Liberal (Lester Pearson)
1965: Liberal (Lester Pearson)



1968: PC (Bob Stanfield)
1972: PC (Bob Stanfield)
1974: PC (Bob Stanfield)
1979: PC (Joe Clark)
1980: PC (Joe Clark)
1984: PC (Brian Mulroney)
1988: PC (Brian Mulroney)
1993: Reform (Preston Manning)
1997: Reform (Preston Manning)
2000: Canadian Alliance (Stockwell Day)
2004: Conservative (Stephen Harper)
2006: Conservative (Stephen Harper)
2008: Conservative (Stephen Harper)
2011: Conservative (Stephen Harper)


1872-1887: I'll trust Blake to keep the anti-clerical fanatics under control. As a modern-day Blue Tory I'd be a classical liberal in those days, hence a Liberal vote. I like Macdonald but not his policies.

1891-1911: Ideological reasons.

1917: I'm voting for national unity, thanks.

1921-1957: Welfare state not my cuppa, but foreign, trade and anti-non-WASP attitudes of the Tories, plus their horrible leaders ensure Liberal votes from me.

1958-68: See above. Definitely not voting for a paranoid, anti-Catholic, anti-American incompetent demagogue.

1968-84: Hell would freeze over before I would ever consider voting for PET.

1984/8: I like Mulroney and his policies. Liberals need to grow and not have a bunch of jumped-up JDs as the face of their party.

1993: No to squishiness (Liberals), incompetence (PCs), socialism and separatism.

1997/2000: See above.

2004-2011: I'm a Tory activist, therefore I vote Tory.
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2011, 02:11:16 pm »
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You'd vote for Pearson and for Harper ?? Huh
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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2011, 04:03:50 pm »
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New Democratic Party from when they're founded onward.
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« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2011, 11:05:16 pm »
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1993: Reform (Preston Manning)


How would you vote Reform in Quebec?
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1945: CCF
1949: CCF
1953: CCF
1957: Liberal
1958: CCF
1962: NDP
1963: Liberal
1965: NDP
1968: NDP
1972: NDP
1974: Liberal
1979: NDP
1980: NDP
1984: NDP
1988: NDP
1993: Liberal
1997: NDP
2000: Liberal
2004: NDP
2006: NDP
2008: NDP
2011: NDP
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1867: Liberal Conservaitve
1872-1874: Conservaitive
1876: Conservative Labour
1878-1882: Conservative
1882-1891: Nationalist Conservative
1896-1911: Conservative
1917: Unionist

1921: Progressive
1925-1926: United Farmer's of Alberta
1930: Conservative
1935: Reconstruction
1940: National Government
1945-1988: Progressive Conservative

1993-1997: Reform
2000: Canadian Alliance
2003-2011: Conservative
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« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2011, 12:10:48 pm »
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The UFA in particular and the Progressives in general had nothing in common with the Tories. In fact, they were very dissimilar (though many Progressives were Unionists in 1917).
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« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2011, 12:28:16 pm »
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New Democratic Party from when they're founded onward.


This with some votes going to liberal or even PC
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1867: Liberal
1872: Liberal
1874: Liberal
1878: Liberal
1882: Liberal
1887: Liberal
1891: Liberal
1896: Liberal
1900: Liberal
1904: Liberal
1908: Liberal

1911: Labour
1917: Labour

1921: Progressive
1925: Progressive

1926: Liberal
1930: Liberal
1935: Liberal

1940: Co-Operative Commonwealth
1945: Co-Operative Commonwealth

1949: Liberal
1953: Liberal

1957: Co-Operative Commonwealth
1958: Co-Operative Commonwealth

1962: Liberal
1963: Liberal

1965: New Democratic
1968: Liberal
1972: New Democratic
1974: Liberal
1979: New Democratic
1980: New Democratic
1984: New Democratic
1988: New Democratic

1993: Liberal
1997: Liberal
2000: Liberal

2004: New Democratic
2006: New Democratic
2008: New Democratic
2011: New Democratic
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2011: Bloc Quebecois
2008: Bloc Quebecois
2006: Bloc Quebecois
2004: Bloc Quebecois
2000: Bloc Quebecois
1997: Bloc Quebecois
1993: Bloc Quebecois

1988: Progressive Conservative
1984: Progressive Conservative

1980: Liberal
1979: Liberal

1974: Progressive Conservative
1972: Progressive Conservative
1968: Progressive Conservative

1965: Liberal
1963: Liberal
1962: Liberal
1958: Liberal
1957: Liberal
1953: Liberal
1949: Liberal
1945: Liberal
1940: Liberal
1935: Liberal
1930: Liberal
1926: Liberal
1925: Liberal
1921: Liberal
1917: Liberal
1911: Liberal
1908: Liberal
1904: Liberal
1900: Liberal
1896: Liberal
1891: Liberal
1887: Liberal
1882: Liberal
1878: Liberal
1874: Liberal
1872: Liberal
1867: Liberal
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« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2011, 09:54:16 am »
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I'm changing mine.

1867 - Anti-Confederation
1872 -
1878 -
1882 -
1887 -
1891 -
1896 - Liberal
1900 -
1904 -
1908 -
1911 - Liberal
1917 - Conservative (Unionist)
1921 - Progressive
1925 - Progressive
1926 -
1930 - Conservative
1935 - Reconstruction Party
1940 - Liberal
1945 - Liberal
1949 -
1953 -
1957 - Progressive Conservative
1958 - Progressive Conservative
1962 - Progressive Conservative
1963 - Liberal
1965 - Liberal
1968 - Liberal
1972 - Progressive Conservative
1974 - Progressive Conservative
1979 - Progressive Conservative
1980 - Progressive Conservative
1984 - Progressive Conservative
1988 - New Democrat
1993 - Liberal
1997 - Progressive Conservative
2000 - Canadian Alliance
2004 - Liberal
2006 - Conservative
2008 - Green
2011 - Green
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1867 > 1891: Liberal
1896 > 1900: Patrons of Industry
1900 > 1904: Labour
1904 > 1911: Socialist
1917 > 1930: Labour
1935 > 1958: CCF
1962 > 2011: NDP
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Updating...


1867: Liberal (George Brown)
1872: Liberal (Edward Blake)
1874: Liberal (Alexander Mackenzie)
1878: Liberal (Alexander Mackenzie)
1882: Liberal (Edward Blake)
1887: Liberal (Edward Blake)
1891: Liberal (Wilfrid Laurier)
1896: Liberal (Wilfrid Laurier)
1900: Liberal (Sir Wilfrid Laurier)
1904: Liberal (Sir Wilfrid Laurier)
1908: Liberal (Sir Wilfrid Laurier)
1911: Liberal (Sir Wilfrid Laurier)
1917: Liberal (Sir Wilfrid Laurier)
1921: Progressive (Thomas Crerar)
1925: Progressive (Robert Forke)
1926: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1930: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1935: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1940: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1945: Liberal (Mackenzie King)
1949: Liberal (Louis St. Laurent)
1953: Liberal (Louis St. Laurent)
1957: Liberal (Louis St. Laurent)
1958: Liberal (Lester Pearson)
1962: New Democrat (Tommy Douglas)
1963: New Democrat (Tommy Douglas)
1965: New Democrat (Tommy Douglas)
1968: New Democrat (Tommy Douglas)
1972: New Democrat (David Lewis)
1974: New Democrat (David Lewis)
1979: PC (Joe Clark)
1980: PC (Joe Clark)
1984: New Democrat (Ed Broadbent)
1988: New Democrat (Ed Broadbent)
1993: Liberal (Jean Chretien)
1997: Liberal (Jean Chretien)
2000: PC (Joe Clark)
2004: New Democrat (Jack Layton)
2006: New Democrat (Jack Layton)
2008: New Democrat (Jack Layton)
2011: New Democrat (Jack Layton)

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1867: Conservative
1872: Liberal
1874: Liberal
1878: Conservative
1882: Conservative
1887: Conservative
1891: Conservative
1896: Liberal
1900: Liberal
1904: Liberal
1908: Liberal
1911: Conservative
1917: Conservative
1921: Conservative
1925: Conservative
1926: Conservative
1930: Conservative
1935: Liberal
1940: Liberal
1945: Liberal
1949: PC
1953: PC
1957: Social Credit
1958: PC
1962: Liberal
1963: Social Credit
1965: Social Credit
1968: Social Credit
1972: PC
1974: PC
1979: PC
1980: PC
1984: PC
1988: PC
1993: Reform
1997: Liberal
2000: Liberal
2004: Conservative
2006: Conservative
2008: Conservative
2011: Conservative
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1867-Liberals
1872-Liberals
1874-Liberals
1878-Liberals
1882-Liberals
1887-Liberals
1891-Liberals
1896-Liberals
1900-Liberals
1904-Liberals, unless there were a Labour or Socialist candidate in my riding.  I'd vote for the Labour candidate first, but if the only left-winger there was s Socialist, I'd also be willing to vote for them.
1908-See 1904
1911-See 1904
1917-Labour if they were on the ballot.  If not, then the Laurier Liberals.
1921-Labour if on the ballot.  If not, then the Progressives.
1925-See 1921
1926-United Farmers if I lived in Ontario or Alberta.  If not, see 1921.  
1930-If Labour, the United Farmers, and the Progressives weren't running candidates in my riding, then the Liberals If they were, then my preferences would be: 1. Labour 2. United Farmers 3. Progressives 4. Liberals5. Conservatives
1935-CCF
1940-CCF
1945-CCF
1949-CCF
1953-CCF
1957-CCF
1958-CCF
1962-NDP
1963-NDP
1965-NDP
1968-Hmm...in the end, probably NDP though I could also quite easily see myself voting Liberal with Trudeau.
1972-NDP, with no possibility of voting Liberal due to Trudeau's treatment of aboriginals
1974-NDP
1979-NDP
1980-NDP
1984-NDP
1988-NDP
1993-NDP-would be tempted by the Liberals though, but the NDP would get it in the end due to Chretien's past as Indian Affairs Minister under Trudeau.  
1998-NDP
2000-NDP
2004-NDP
2006-NDP
2008-NDP
2011-NDP
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1949-CCF
1953-CCF
1957-CCF
1958-CCF
1962-NDP
1963-NDP
1965-NDP
1968-Liberal
1972-NDP
1974-Liberal
1979-NDP
1980-NDP
1984-NDP
1988-NDP
1993-Liberal
1997-Liberal
2000-NDP
2004-NDP
2006-NDP
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1867: Conservative
1872: Conservative
1874: Liberal, as a protest vote against the Pacific scandal.
1878: Conservative
1882: Conservative
1887: Conservative
1891: Liberal - As a result of the Liberal policy on Free Trade.
1896: Liberal
1900: Liberal
1904: Liberal
1908: Liberal
1911: Conservative - I love both the UK and the USA, but something tells me I would have swung back to the Tories in 1911.
1917: Conservative
1921: Conservative
1925: Conservative
1926: Conservative
1930: Conservative, mainly because had I been around at the time, I would have been a loyal supporter of the British Empire.
1935: Liberal, mainly as a result of the Tories carrying out New Deal-esque measures.
1940: Conservative
1945: Progressive Conservative
1949: Progressive Conservative
1953: Progressive Conservative
1957: Progressive Conservative
1958: Progressive Conservative
1962: Progressive Conservative
1963: Progressive Conservative
1965: Progressive Conservative
1968: Progressive Conservative
1972: Progressive Conservative
1974: Progressive Conservative
1979: Progressive Conservative
1980: Progressive Conservative
1984: Progressive Conservative
1988: Progressive Conservative
1993: Reform
1997: Reform
2000: Canadian Alliance
2004: Conservative
2006: Conservative
2008: Conservative
2011: Conservative
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1867: Conservative
1872: Conservative
1874: Conservative
1878: Conservative
1882: Conservative
1887: Conservative
1891: Liberal
1896: Liberal
1900: Liberal
1904: Liberal
1908: Liberal
1911: Liberal
1917: Unionist
1921: Liberal
1925: Conservative
1926: Conservative
1930: Conservative
1935: Conservative
1940: National Government
1945: Progressive Conservative
1945: Progressive Conservative
1949: Progressive Conservative
1953: Progressive Conservative
1957: Progressive Conservative
1958: Progressive Conservative
1962: Progressive Conservative
1963: Progressive Conservative
1965: Progressive Conservative
1968: Progressive Conservative
1972: Progressive Conservative
1974: Progressive Conservative
1979: Social Credit
1980: Social Credit
1984: Progressive Conservative
1988: Progressive Conservative
1993: Reform
1997: Reform
2000: Canadian Alliance
2004: Conservative
2006: Conservative
2008: Conservative
2011: Conservative
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1867: Anti Confederate
1872: Liberal
1874: Liberal
1878: Liberal
1882: Liberal
1887: Liberal
1891: Liberal
1896: Liberal
1900: Liberal
1904: Liberal
1908: Liberal
1911: Liberal
1917: Unionist
1921: Liberal
1925: Liberal
1926: Conservative Would have been pissed at King's attempts to hold on to power as a 2nd place party.
1930: Conservative
1935: Liberal Pissed at Bennett creating CBC. Held nose and voted Liberal.
1940: Liberal
1945: Progressive Conservative Pissed about conscription.
1949: Progressive Conservative
1953: Progressive Conservative
1957: Progressive Conservative
1958: Progressive Conservative
1962: Progressive Conservative
1963: Progressive Conservative
1965: Progressive Conservative
1968: Progressive Conservative
1972: Progressive Conservative
1974: Progressive Conservative
1979: Progressive Conservative
1980: Progressive Conservative
1984: Progressive Conservative
1988: Progressive Conservative
1993: Reform To hell with Kim Campbell
1997: Liberal Reward Liberals for cutting spending
2000: Canadian Alliance
2004: Conservative
2006: Conservative
2008: Conservative
2011: Conservative
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« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2012, 07:23:37 pm »
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Not sure, but probably all Conservative from 1980 on.
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« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2012, 02:50:26 pm »
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1867: Liberal
1872: Liberal
1874: Liberal
1878: Liberal
1882: Liberal
1887: Liberal
1891: Liberal
1896: Liberal
1900: Liberal
1904: Liberal
1908: Liberal
1911: Liberal
1917: Laurier Liberal
1921: Progressive
1925: Progressive
1926: Progressive/United Farmers (depending on where)
1930: Liberal
1935: CCF
1940: Liberal
1945: CCF
1949: CCF
1953: CCF
1957: CCF
1958: CCF
1962: NDP
1963: NDP
1965: NDP
1968: Liberal
1972: Liberal
1974: Liberal
1979: Liberal
1980: Liberal
1984: NDP
1988: NDP
1993: NDP
1997: NDP
2000: NDP
2004: NDP
2006: NDP
2008: NDP
2011: NDP
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