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Topic: Maine's Question 1 (Read 20947 times)
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 04, 2009, 09:08:09 pm »
Quote from: Holmes on November 04, 2009, 09:06:12 pm
When the biggest university campus in Maine voted 81% No and with other campuses with similar margins, I can put my hand in fire that the young vote wasn't 51-48.
I can agree with that, and like i said these were basically "entrance" polls rather than exit polls.
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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But what percentage of voters were young vs. old? Especially in comparison to 2008.
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 04, 2009, 09:28:14 pm »
Quote from: ottermax on November 04, 2009, 09:10:13 pm
But what percentage of voters were young vs. old? Especially in comparison to 2008.
I guess any demographics will be tough to find, since it seems the only time questions are examined closer are when there are actual candidate races above them in the same state/district. At least that's what I gather.
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 04, 2009, 09:31:28 pm »
Quote from: Holmes on November 04, 2009, 09:06:12 pm
When the biggest university campus in Maine voted 81% No and with other campuses with similar margins, I can put my hand in fire that the young vote wasn't 51-48.
Well don't forget people from more rural areas who may not attend college. But yeah, the margin wouldn't have been that close.
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 04, 2009, 09:36:12 pm »
I don't know if there's any exit polling, actually. We might never really know the age demographics of last night.
Quote from: Governor Vepres on November 04, 2009, 09:31:28 pm
Quote from: Holmes on November 04, 2009, 09:06:12 pm
When the biggest university campus in Maine voted 81% No and with other campuses with similar margins, I can put my hand in fire that the young vote wasn't 51-48.
Well don't forget people from more rural areas who may not attend college. But yeah, the margin wouldn't have been that close.
I've lived in a relatively rural city for a good part of my life, so I can attest to this. After graduating, young people in rural areas usually take flight into bigger cities, and/or university campuses. The young people who stay with the family and get a job after graduation are probably in the 35% 18-29 demographic that are against same-sex marriage.
Well, from what I've seen, anyway.
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 04, 2009, 09:38:38 pm »
It won't be that hard to find out age demographics. I can't imagine that Maine's voter database doesn't contain DOB and voter credit information.
It's worth mentioning that kids who attend college tend to be more liberal, and even beyond that, college students who register to vote at their university's address tend to be even moreso. Don't ask me why.
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 04, 2009, 09:46:58 pm »
Unfortunate, though not terribly surprising. Gay marriage is definitely significantly to the left of most (if not all) state Democratic parties. The only states that could potentially legalize gay marriage with a referendum at this point, are: VT and MA with an outside shot at CT, RI, NY, and NJ.
IIRC, 29 states have now banned gay marriage by a statewide referendum, all in the past six years. To my knowledge, I don't think there are any other issues that have been on ballots in so many states, at least not in this time frame. Interesting how this is such a big issue when the general public is not affected by two consenting adults marrying.
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 04, 2009, 09:55:53 pm »
Quote from: Lunar on November 04, 2009, 12:03:53 pm
Quote from: Fyodor Glazunov on November 04, 2009, 12:01:29 pm
Quote from: Is Steve Earle a racist? on November 04, 2009, 08:44:47 am
53-47 is good and close.
Not sludging through this whole thread - someone care to repost a link to results?
I don't know where it be either. But someone posted a map:
Quote from: realisticidealist on November 04, 2009, 01:48:19 am
Here is the county map:
http://www.bangordailynews.com/electionresults.html
That site doesn't appear to match up with the county map (not sure which is accurate), but anyway Obama margin minus yes margin:
aroostook 55.7
franklin 38.2
somerset 36.7
androscoggin 35.5
oxford 34.5
washington 30.3
piscataquis 29.9
kennebec 28
penobscot 22.7
york 19.8
knox 19.6
waldo 19.6
sagadahoc 16.6
lincoln 15.7
hancock 13.5
cumberland 9.6
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 04, 2009, 10:14:24 pm »
Hallieulah!
Well, good for Maine voters.
They did the right thing.
They deserve the thanks of a greatful nation for acting responsibly.
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 04, 2009, 06:26:34 pm
Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.
It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?
Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 05, 2009, 01:58:21 am »
Quote from: Einzige on November 05, 2009, 01:54:57 am
Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 04, 2009, 06:26:34 pm
Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.
It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?
Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.
Where did I argue against gay marriage?
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 05, 2009, 02:23:58 am »
Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 05, 2009, 01:58:21 am
Quote from: Einzige on November 05, 2009, 01:54:57 am
Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 04, 2009, 06:26:34 pm
Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.
It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?
Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.
Where did I argue against gay marriage?
You've been beating around it this entire thread. Don't be facile.
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 05, 2009, 02:25:55 am »
Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 05, 2009, 01:58:21 am
Quote from: Einzige on November 05, 2009, 01:54:57 am
Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 04, 2009, 06:26:34 pm
Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.
It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?
Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.
Where did I argue against gay marriage?
This thread?
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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Reply #568 on:
November 05, 2009, 02:39:31 am »
Quote from: Einzige on November 05, 2009, 02:23:58 am
Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 05, 2009, 01:58:21 am
Quote from: Einzige on November 05, 2009, 01:54:57 am
Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 04, 2009, 06:26:34 pm
Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.
It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?
Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.
Where did I argue against gay marriage?
You've been beating around it this entire thread. Don't be facile.
I haven't taken a position on this actual ballot measure.
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Re: Maine's Question 1
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November 05, 2009, 02:39:53 am »
Quote from: sbane on November 05, 2009, 02:25:55 am
Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 05, 2009, 01:58:21 am
Quote from: Einzige on November 05, 2009, 01:54:57 am
Quote from: Roosevelt Republican (LNF-MA) on November 04, 2009, 06:26:34 pm
Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.
It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?
Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.
Where did I argue against gay marriage?
This thread?
No. I merely argued against the importance of the "issue."
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