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« Reply #555 on: November 04, 2009, 09:08:09 pm »
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When the biggest university campus in Maine voted 81% No and with other campuses with similar margins, I can put my hand in fire that the young vote wasn't 51-48.

I can agree with that, and like i said these were basically "entrance" polls rather than exit polls.
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« Reply #556 on: November 04, 2009, 09:10:13 pm »
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But what percentage of voters were young vs. old? Especially in comparison to 2008.
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« Reply #557 on: November 04, 2009, 09:28:14 pm »
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But what percentage of voters were young vs. old? Especially in comparison to 2008.

I guess any demographics will be tough to find, since it seems the only time questions are examined closer are when there are actual candidate races above them in the same state/district.  At least that's what I gather.
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« Reply #558 on: November 04, 2009, 09:31:28 pm »
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When the biggest university campus in Maine voted 81% No and with other campuses with similar margins, I can put my hand in fire that the young vote wasn't 51-48.

Well don't forget people from more rural areas who may not attend college. But yeah, the margin wouldn't have been that close.
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« Reply #559 on: November 04, 2009, 09:36:12 pm »
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I don't know if there's any exit polling, actually. We might never really know the age demographics of last night.

When the biggest university campus in Maine voted 81% No and with other campuses with similar margins, I can put my hand in fire that the young vote wasn't 51-48.

Well don't forget people from more rural areas who may not attend college. But yeah, the margin wouldn't have been that close.

I've lived in a relatively rural city for a good part of my life, so I can attest to this. After graduating, young people in rural areas usually take flight into bigger cities, and/or university campuses. The young people who stay with the family and get a job after graduation are probably in the 35% 18-29 demographic that are against same-sex marriage.

Well, from what I've seen, anyway.
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« Reply #560 on: November 04, 2009, 09:38:38 pm »
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It won't be that hard to find out age demographics.  I can't imagine that Maine's voter database doesn't contain DOB and voter credit information.

It's worth mentioning that kids who attend college tend to be more liberal, and even beyond that, college students who register to vote at their university's address tend to be even moreso.  Don't ask me why.
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« Reply #561 on: November 04, 2009, 09:46:58 pm »
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Unfortunate, though not terribly surprising. Gay marriage is definitely significantly to the left of most (if not all) state Democratic parties. The only states that could potentially legalize gay marriage with a referendum at this point, are: VT and MA with an outside shot at CT, RI, NY, and NJ.

IIRC, 29 states have now banned gay marriage by a statewide referendum, all in the past six years. To my knowledge, I don't think there are any other issues that have been on ballots in so many states, at least not in this time frame. Interesting how this is such a big issue when the general public is not affected by two consenting adults marrying.
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« Reply #562 on: November 04, 2009, 09:55:53 pm »
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53-47 is good and close.

Not sludging through this whole thread - someone care to repost a link to results?

I don't know where it be either. But someone posted a map:

Here is the county map:




http://www.bangordailynews.com/electionresults.html

That site doesn't appear to match up with the county map (not sure which is accurate), but anyway Obama margin minus yes margin:

aroostook   55.7
franklin   38.2
somerset   36.7
androscoggin   35.5
oxford   34.5
washington   30.3
piscataquis   29.9
kennebec   28
penobscot   22.7
york   19.8
knox   19.6
waldo   19.6
sagadahoc   16.6
lincoln   15.7
hancock   13.5
cumberland   9.6
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« Reply #563 on: November 04, 2009, 10:14:24 pm »
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Hallieulah!

Well, good for Maine voters.

They did the right thing.

They deserve the thanks of a greatful nation for acting responsibly.
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« Reply #564 on: November 05, 2009, 01:54:57 am »
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Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.

It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?

Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.
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« Reply #565 on: November 05, 2009, 01:58:21 am »
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Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.

It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?

Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.

Where did I argue against gay marriage?
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« Reply #566 on: November 05, 2009, 02:23:58 am »
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Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.

It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?

Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.

Where did I argue against gay marriage?

You've been beating around it this entire thread. Don't be facile.
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« Reply #567 on: November 05, 2009, 02:25:55 am »
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Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.

It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?

Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.

Where did I argue against gay marriage?

This thread?
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« Reply #568 on: November 05, 2009, 02:39:31 am »
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Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.

It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?

Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.

Where did I argue against gay marriage?

You've been beating around it this entire thread. Don't be facile.

I haven't taken a position on this actual ballot measure.
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« Reply #569 on: November 05, 2009, 02:39:53 am »
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Franzl, this has nothing to do with separation of church and state. And even so, that argument would side with the church. The state is interfering with religion's right to define marriage, therefore, the state needs to abandon marriage.

It most certainly is. If the Quakers or the Unitarians want to permit gay marriages, what State has the right to disallow them that ability?

Oh, wait, I forgot - you're only arguing against gay marriage because it's required of you as a Republican.

Where did I argue against gay marriage?

This thread?

No. I merely argued against the importance of the "issue."
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