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« on: August 15, 2009, 03:19:39 PM »
« edited: September 06, 2009, 02:43:19 PM by Hans-im-Glück »

Here are all Prime minister and Presidents of Portugal

António Sebastião Ribeiro de Spínola; President (1974)
Francisco da Costa Gomes; President (1974-1976)
Adelino da Palma Carlos (1974)
Vasco dos Santos Gonçalves (1974-1975)
José Batista Pinheiro de Azevedo (1975-1976)
António dos Santos Ramalho Eanes; President (1976-1986)
Alfredo Jorge Nobre da Costa (1978)
Carlos Alberto da Mota Pinto (1978-1978)
Maria de Lourdes Ruivo da Silva Matos Pintasilgo (1979-1980)
Francisco Manuel Lumbrales de Sá Carneiro (1980)
Diogo Freitas do Amaral (1980-1981) (interim)
Francisco Pinto Balsemão (1981-1983)
Mário Alberto Nobre Lopes Soares (1976-1978; 1983-1985), President (1986-1996)
Aníbal António Cavaco Silva (1985-1995); President (2006-present)
António Manuel de Oliveira Guterres (1995-2002)
Jorge Fernando Branco de Sampaio President (1996-2006)
José Manuel Durão Barroso   (2002-2004)
Pedro Miguel Santana Lopes   (2004-2005)
José Sócrates Carvalho Pinto de Sousa (2005-present)

I write the complet name. The well-known name is bold Wink
 

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Round 1 - Spínola 5, Sócrates 2, Durão Barroso 1
Round 2 - Vasco Gonçalves 4, da Costa Gomes 1
Round 3 - da Costa Gomes 3, Pinheiro de Azevedo 2, da Palma Carlos 1
Round 4 - Nobre da Costa 2, Pinheiro de Azevedo 2 da Palma Carlos 1
Round 5 - Pedro Santana Lopes 3, Pinheiro de Azevedo 2
Round 6 - Pinheiro de Azevedo 6
Round 7 - da Palma Carlos 2, Durão Barroso 1
Round 8 - Pinto Balsemão  3, José Sócrates   2, José Manuel Durão Barroso   1
Round 9 - José Manuel Durão Barroso   4, José Sócrates   3
Round 10 -  Diogo Freitas do Amaral   3, José Sócrates   2
Round 11 -  Carlos Mota Pinto   3, José Sócrates   2, Mário Soares   1
Round 12 -  José Sócrates   3, Maria de Lourdes Pintasilgo 2, Mário Soares   1
Round 13 - Maria de Lourdes Pintasilgo 5
Round 14 - Mário Soares   3, António Ramalho Eanes   2
Round 15 - António Ramalho Eanes   6,  António Guterres   1
Round 16 - Francisco Sá Carneiro  4, António Guterres   2
Round 17 - Aníbal Cavaco Silva  4, António Guterres   3
Round 18 - António Guterres   5, Jorge Sampaio   1
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2009, 04:43:55 PM »

José Manuel Durão Barroso
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2009, 05:10:13 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2009, 04:00:48 AM »
« Edited: August 16, 2009, 04:06:24 AM by Hans-im-Glück »

fab and Kalwejt, you begin with the big names. Sócrates and Durão Barroso aren't the best but there give worse like them.

I vote for António de Spínola

He was the first, provisional President after the Revolution. Spínola was not a part oft the group witch made the Carnation Revolution, but he was very famous and popular in the military. He resigns after his right-wing ideas have no majority in the MFA (Movimento das Forças Armadas) and then he want to make a right-wing coup attempt in March 1975.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2009, 09:37:57 AM »

fab and Kalwejt, you begin with the big names. Sócrates and Durão Barroso aren't the best but there give worse like them.

I vote for António de Spínola

He was the first, provisional President after the Revolution. Spínola was not a part oft the group witch made the Carnation Revolution, but he was very famous and popular in the military. He resigns after his right-wing ideas have no majority in the MFA (Movimento das Forças Armadas) and then he want to make a right-wing coup attempt in March 1975.

You're right, but Kalwejt attacking frontly, I was forced to vote for Socrates. Otherwise, I would have voted for Spinola.
If this survivor isn't "popular", maybe I'll change my vote ! Wink
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2009, 09:47:13 AM »

fab and Kalwejt, you begin with the big names. Sócrates and Durão Barroso aren't the best but there give worse like them.

I vote for António de Spínola

He was the first, provisional President after the Revolution. Spínola was not a part oft the group witch made the Carnation Revolution, but he was very famous and popular in the military. He resigns after his right-wing ideas have no majority in the MFA (Movimento das Forças Armadas) and then he want to make a right-wing coup attempt in March 1975.

You're right, but Kalwejt attacking frontly, I was forced to vote for Socrates. Otherwise, I would have voted for Spinola.
If this survivor isn't "popular", maybe I'll change my vote ! Wink

I don't expect that this survivor will be very "popular". Portugal isn't a big country and sometimes i think many don't know that Portugal is a country, they think this is something to eat Sad Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2009, 03:18:25 PM »

It's a tie.

For Sócrates, Barroso and Spínola one vote.

We need more votes or one must change his decision.
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2009, 04:07:10 PM »

I switch my vote to Spinola.

PM Hash and Bono: they may be interested !
Or if they read this, they may say if they intend to vote in it.

(I've thought about a Portuguese one, but it's true the big number of interim guys in 1974-1979 isn't very easy to manage !)
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2009, 04:32:49 PM »

Well, they all suck, but I vote for Socrates. Still time to change your vote big bad.

The people Spinola opposed were as bad as the Estado Novo people, and they very nearly plunged Portugal into a communist dictatorship.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 04:44:53 PM »

The voting is still open for 22 hours. I write to some witch are interested by international politics Wink

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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2009, 04:57:07 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2009, 05:18:19 PM »

Spínola
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2009, 05:37:08 PM »

Sócrates.
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2009, 04:08:38 AM »

Spinola.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2009, 12:59:17 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2009, 01:07:51 PM by Hans-im-Glück »

António de Spínola is out

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The result of round 1 was:
Spínola 5
Sócrates 2
Barroso 1

Start of Round 2:

I vote for:
Vasco Gonçalves

He was a General and very left-leaning. His politics polarized Portugal. I don't think that the chance was very big that Portugal going to be Communist, but he fortify the fear that this happend.
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2009, 05:24:54 PM »

Oh yes, Vasco Gonçalves !
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2009, 04:52:01 AM »


^^^^

One of the worst excuses for a human being ever in charge of Portugal's destinies, and that's saying something.
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2009, 09:26:33 AM »


^^^^

One of the worst excuses for a human being ever in charge of Portugal's destinies, and that's saying something.

There must something wrong, when fab and Bono agree with my vote Cheesy Wink
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2009, 09:46:17 AM »

Vasco Gonçalves
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2009, 12:35:19 PM »

Francisco da Costa Gomes. Tongue Who helped make UNITA.
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2009, 01:03:27 PM »


@Lewis

The UNITA was founded in 1966 and make a secret agreement with Portuguese Government 1970 against the MPLA. The UNITA was in this time only a pawn of Portugal and later of the USA.

The politics of da Costa Gomes with Angola was not the best, but without him come the same trouble. In Portugal he wasn't so bad. His politics was against all extremists and maybe he was the best of the not democratic elected PM or Presidents after the 25. April
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2009, 01:08:21 PM »

The UNITA was founded in 1966 and make a secret agreement with Portuguese Government 1970 against the MPLA. The UNITA was in this time only a pawn of Portugal and later of the USA.
Yes. Or more precisely, they made an agreement with the then portuguese commander in Angola in 1970, Costa Gomes. (No doubt with the central government's agreement etc, that wasn't the point.)

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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2009, 01:45:40 PM »

The UNITA was founded in 1966 and make a secret agreement with Portuguese Government 1970 against the MPLA. The UNITA was in this time only a pawn of Portugal and later of the USA.
Yes. Or more precisely, they made an agreement with the then portuguese commander in Angola in 1970, Costa Gomes. (No doubt with the central government's agreement etc, that wasn't the point.)

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Alright, which non-Communist early PM or President should I change my vote to in order to remain contrarian? Grin

Oh, this i forget Sad You are right, he was the man who make this agreement. I know it and forget it. I think I'm getting old Wink
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2009, 01:47:33 PM »

After checking your profile... no. That happened 11 years ago. Cheesy
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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2009, 01:55:12 PM »


now I'm really down Sad I feel like 50 years Wink
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