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minionofmidas
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« on: August 17, 2009, 04:08:38 AM »

Spinola.
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 12:35:19 PM »

Francisco da Costa Gomes. Tongue Who helped make UNITA.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 01:08:21 PM »

The UNITA was founded in 1966 and make a secret agreement with Portuguese Government 1970 against the MPLA. The UNITA was in this time only a pawn of Portugal and later of the USA.
Yes. Or more precisely, they made an agreement with the then portuguese commander in Angola in 1970, Costa Gomes. (No doubt with the central government's agreement etc, that wasn't the point.)

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Alright, which non-Communist early PM or President should I change my vote to in order to remain contrarian? Grin
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2009, 01:47:33 PM »

After checking your profile... no. That happened 11 years ago. Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 02:21:17 PM »

I think I'll stick with Costa Gomes. I have a soft spot for naive idealism.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2009, 12:22:37 PM »

Alright, Nobre da Costa. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2009, 12:51:32 PM »

Ah, that one. (shrugs)

Santana Lopes
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2009, 03:31:20 AM »

pinheiro de azevedo
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2009, 01:30:27 PM »

I agree with everything Hans said about Durrao Barroso, but I'm not sure he needs to go quite yet.
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2009, 12:50:05 PM »

Heh, it's tempting. But *cough* someone will organize a big Socrates Out drive next round.

Eeny Meeny Miny Moe....

Pinto Balsemao it is.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 11:23:25 AM »

Barroso
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2009, 12:53:38 PM »

Not a lover, exactly. But he seems more relevant and deserving of survival here.

Freitas do Amaral.
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2009, 04:03:36 AM »

Mario Soares. Senile self-centered old bastard. (Talking of his most recent role, of course.)
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2009, 01:07:08 PM »

I don't hope to live past 70-75. Tongue
Then the communists under Álvaro Cunhal (i don't support him, but a very important man) had no strong opponent.
You say that like it would have been a bad thing. Tongue Grin
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2009, 01:36:17 PM »

I don't hope to live past 70-75. Tongue
Then the communists under Álvaro Cunhal (i don't support him, but a very important man) had no strong opponent.
You say that like it would have been a bad thing. Tongue Grin

Yeah, this would be a bad thing. The PCP was and is very obedience to authority, The Boss speaks and all other say yes. This isn't the world i want. You can say this is in every party the same, but in the PCP it's extreme.   
Would that be the case still (post 1990, say) if it hadn't been pressed into a position where its survival is ensured and it has no chance of breaking out of its ghetto, though? No way to know...

I was partly sarcastic, of course. I know the PCP is a pretty unreconstructed Commie Party. Though a different outcome might indeed have been possible if events 74-6 would have gone differently. Oh well... I'm no great fan of alternative history, so no point engaging in writing one now.
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2009, 04:17:46 AM »

Mario Soares.
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2009, 02:55:29 AM »

Whatever. I'll vote for Soares again next round.

Our Lady of Lourdes.
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2009, 02:56:47 PM »

Mario Soares. Though Eanes would have been my next target.
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2009, 11:06:04 AM »

It's very difficult now.
Guterres, Sampaio, Cavaco Silva weren't big guys but weren't bad ones.
Soares is THE Portuguese leader, even if he may be more controversial.
Eanes is a bit dull and I haven't liked him, but, well, he was a bit a modern "father of the nation".

I don't want to waste my vote and we must have some suspense...

Soares

No, don't kill me, Hans-im-Glück !

That's democracy. Soares is my favourite, but when he is out (in the moment it`s a tie Wink) i don't cry.  Since Lewis the last rounds vote against him, i think Soares cannot win. By the way, 1975 i was a child (7 years old) and meet Mário Soares. He comes as foreign minster to my tiny little town in Germany. My father, he was from Portugal, go with me to the city hall and speaks with him. This day i think my father is very important Cheesy. It's 35 years ago, but this day I'll never forget.

No panic fab, i don't kill you. I'm not a violent man Wink.
Ah. I'd been wanting to ask you why you care so much about Portugal. Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2009, 02:59:00 PM »

Eanes.
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2009, 02:50:48 PM »

Sá Carneiro
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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2009, 07:56:45 AM »

Cavaco Silva. Unlike all the other votes cast in this round  so far, this is not a partisan hack vote. This is a tactical vote to prevent a partisan hack vote next round.
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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2009, 03:20:52 AM »

Guterres
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