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Alexander Hamilton
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« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2009, 04:58:49 PM »
« edited: August 19, 2009, 05:06:20 PM by Hamilton »

How about:
Democratic: Me (GA)/Purple State (NY)
Republican: DWTL (NJ)/North Carolina Yankee (NC)

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DWTL- 353 EV/51.9% PV
Barnes- 185 EV/47.4% PV

Barnes does a bit better in the South than an average liberal Democrat, makes Georgia close, but fails to flip any Southern states. DWTL scores big with suburban voters at the expensive of more rural areas. Rust Belt voters especially turn out heavy in favor of the Republican ticket. However, Hispanics are mostly unconvinced and support Barnes and Purple State overwhelmingly.

Republican: AHDuke/Tmthforu94
Democrat: benconstine/HappyWarrior
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« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2009, 05:33:19 PM »

How about:
Democratic: Me (GA)/Purple State (NY)
Republican: DWTL (NJ)/North Carolina Yankee (NC)

Cheesy



DWTL- 353 EV/51.9% PV
Barnes- 185 EV/47.4% PV

Barnes does a bit better in the South than an average liberal Democrat, makes Georgia close, but fails to flip any Southern states. DWTL scores big with suburban voters at the expensive of more rural areas. Rust Belt voters especially turn out heavy in favor of the Republican ticket. However, Hispanics are mostly unconvinced and support Barnes and Purple State overwhelmingly.

Republican: AHDuke/Tmthforu94
Democrat: benconstine/HappyWarrior


You are totally unable to make a Democrat win once ?

Here is what would really happen :



A moderate and serious democratic ticket facing a trollish republican makes no doubt on the results.

Barnes : 377
DWTL : 161
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Alexander Hamilton
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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2009, 05:36:04 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2009, 05:38:37 PM by Hamilton »

How about:
Democratic: Me (GA)/Purple State (NY)
Republican: DWTL (NJ)/North Carolina Yankee (NC)

Cheesy



DWTL- 353 EV/51.9% PV
Barnes- 185 EV/47.4% PV

Barnes does a bit better in the South than an average liberal Democrat, makes Georgia close, but fails to flip any Southern states. DWTL scores big with suburban voters at the expensive of more rural areas. Rust Belt voters especially turn out heavy in favor of the Republican ticket. However, Hispanics are mostly unconvinced and support Barnes and Purple State overwhelmingly.

Republican: AHDuke/Tmthforu94
Democrat: benconstine/HappyWarrior


You are totally unable to make a Democrat win once ?

Here is what would really happen :



A moderate and serious democratic ticket facing a trollish republican makes no doubt on the results.

Barnes : 377
DWTL : 161

LOL DWTL isn't a troll. He's smart, he's just very arrogant. Barnes is a far-left liberal. Why would he win in a 50-50 election? If he was a troll our party would vote him out as chair, and we most likely wouldn't be Atlasia's strongest party either.
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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2009, 05:46:05 PM »

How about:
Democratic: Me (GA)/Purple State (NY)
Republican: DWTL (NJ)/North Carolina Yankee (NC)

Cheesy



DWTL- 353 EV/51.9% PV
Barnes- 185 EV/47.4% PV

Barnes does a bit better in the South than an average liberal Democrat, makes Georgia close, but fails to flip any Southern states. DWTL scores big with suburban voters at the expensive of more rural areas. Rust Belt voters especially turn out heavy in favor of the Republican ticket. However, Hispanics are mostly unconvinced and support Barnes and Purple State overwhelmingly.

Republican: AHDuke/Tmthforu94
Democrat: benconstine/HappyWarrior


I think Duke would do very well in the West and northeast but ironically with me and Ben as a wholely populist ticket I think our strength in the upper south and rust belt would pull us out to a win. 320-218



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Keystone Phil/North Carolina Yankee
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Alexander Hamilton
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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2009, 05:51:24 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2009, 06:00:51 PM by Hamilton »



HW- 486 EV/64.9%
Phil- 52 EV/28.5%

NCYankee helps Phil tremendously in PA, but it is not enough.
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« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2009, 05:54:33 PM »

LOL DWTL isn't a troll. He's smart, he's just very arrogant.

Well, you should look better at his posts. The fact he's smart with you doesn't mean he's smart.


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Barnes is a sane moderate democrat. Calling him a far-left liberal is just ridiculous.


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You probably forgot you're not the strongest party in Atlasia ! Cheesy
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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2009, 05:55:45 PM »

LOL DWTL isn't a troll. He's smart, he's just very arrogant.

Well, you should look better at his posts. The fact he's smart with you doesn't mean he's smart.


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Barnes is a sane moderate democrat. Calling him a far-left liberal is just ridiculous.


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You probably forgot you're not the strongest party in Atlasia ! Cheesy

A. He's obviosuly smart otherwise the party he helped start would've flopped like all other right-wing attempts.

B. Barnes is not moderate at all. Look at his PM. Come on.

C. We actually are.
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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2009, 06:00:10 PM »

LOL DWTL isn't a troll. He's smart, he's just very arrogant.

Well, you should look better at his posts. The fact he's smart with you doesn't mean he's smart.


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Barnes is a sane moderate democrat. Calling him a far-left liberal is just ridiculous.


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You probably forgot you're not the strongest party in Atlasia ! Cheesy

A. He's obviosuly smart otherwise the party he helped start would've flopped like all other right-wing attempts.

B. Barnes is not moderate at all. Look at his PM. Come on.

C. We actually are.

People please let's get back to the fun of this game (which is a very good idea, by the way, Antonio Smiley )

I have nothing against DWLT, although I think he hates me! (In Atlasia I mean) Cheesy

And I don't think I'm much of a moderate, but that's fine with me! Cheesy
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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2009, 06:05:21 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2009, 06:07:34 PM by Antonio V »

A. He's obviosuly smart otherwise the party he helped start would've flopped like all other right-wing attempts.

B. Barnes is not moderate at all. Look at his PM. Come on.

C. We actually are.

A. He's smart with right-wingers and trollish with other people. That's why your party kept him.

B. Maybe he's not a moderate, but he's certainly not a far-leftist.

C. Founding you on what ? We have the most members and we won the two last national elections. In one of these, DWTL got totally destroyed.
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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2009, 06:17:35 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2009, 06:22:21 PM by Hamilton »

A. He's obviosuly smart otherwise the party he helped start would've flopped like all other right-wing attempts.

B. Barnes is not moderate at all. Look at his PM. Come on.

C. We actually are.

A. He's smart with right-wingers and trollish with other people. That's why your party kept him.

B. Maybe he's not a moderate, but he's certainly not a far-leftist.

C. Founding you on what ? We have the most members and we won the two last national elections. In one of these, DWTL got totally destroyed.

Totally destroyed is 4 votes? Wow. And that Presidential election was a fluke. You won on technicality. That's like saying in 2001. Yeah, Republicans are clearly the majority party, we beat you when obviously the results were unclear. We have more votes than you do now, that's the bottom line. We also have more appealing candidates that aren't stuck in the bottom-left corner of the PM chart.
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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2009, 06:21:35 PM »

LOL DWTL isn't a troll. He's smart, he's just very arrogant.

Well, you should look better at his posts. The fact he's smart with you doesn't mean he's smart.


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Barnes is a sane moderate democrat. Calling him a far-left liberal is just ridiculous.


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You probably forgot you're not the strongest party in Atlasia ! Cheesy

A. He's obviosuly smart otherwise the party he helped start would've flopped like all other right-wing attempts.

B. Barnes is not moderate at all. Look at his PM. Come on.

C. We actually are.

People please let's get back to the fun of this game (which is a very good idea, by the way, Antonio Smiley )

I have nothing against DWLT, although I think he hates me! (In Atlasia I mean) Cheesy

And I don't think I'm much of a moderate, but that's fine with me! Cheesy

MasterJedi/Inks
Lief/Purple State
Mechman/Stark
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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2009, 06:32:45 PM »

Eight on my count : a 10-points margin of defeat.
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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2009, 06:35:58 PM »

Eight on my count : a 10-points margin of defeat.

Oh okay I see what you're saying but Fritz only got 4 more than he didn;t.
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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2009, 07:01:00 PM »

MasterJedi would be a formidable opponent, but in 2008 climate Lief would win

Mechman takes libertarian-leaning states as Maine, New Hamphsire and Montana, while Stark delivers far-right wing Idaho and Wyoming thanks to his views (Mechman/Stark ticket is sometking very hilarious, btw Grin)

 

Anyway, try this tickets:

JSojourner/Benconstine (Democratic)
DWTL/JewishConservative (Republican)
Sewer Socialist/Calvin and Hobbes (Green)
Stark/Richius (American Independent)
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Alexander Hamilton
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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2009, 07:05:05 PM »

MasterJedi would be a formidable opponent, but in 2008 climate Lief would win

Mechman takes libertarian-leaning states as Maine, New Hamphsire and Montana, while Stark delivers far-right wing Idaho and Wyoming thanks to his views (Mechman/Stark ticket is sometking very hilarious, btw Grin)

 

Anyway, try this tickets:

JSojourner/Benconstine (Democratic)
DWTL/JewishConservative (Republican)
Sewer Socialist/Calvin and Hobbes (Green)
Stark/Richius (American Independent)



Only 18 people vote.
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« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2009, 07:52:02 AM »

Anyway, try this tickets:

JSojourner/Benconstine (Democratic)
DWTL/JewishConservative (Republican)
Sewer Socialist/Calvin and Hobbes (Green)
Stark/Richius (American Independent)



JSojourner : 50.7%, 339 E.V.
DWTL : 44.1%, 195 E.V.
Stark : 4.8%, 4 E.V.
Sewer Socialist : 0.4%, 0 E.V.


JSojourner does very well among working classes, whereas Benconstine helps him doing quite well in the South. Even if the Republican ticket does particularly well among moderates in the west, he isn't able to win. Stark does incredibly well, managing to carry Idaho and to be compertitive in many western States. The Green ticket is destroyed.
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« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2009, 07:58:55 AM »

Next scenario :
Democratic : Benconstine (VA)/Gustaf (MN)
Republican : Fab (NH)/Tmthforu (IN)
Independent : Me (VT)/Hashemite (ME)
Conservative : JewishConservative (NC)/Politicaladdict (WY)
Labour : Marokai (OH)/Fritz (MN)
National-Socialist : Stark (CA)/Vander Blub (NC)
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« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2009, 11:27:38 AM »

Next scenario :
Democratic : Benconstine (VA)/Gustaf (MN)
Republican : Fab (NH)/Tmthforu (IN)
Independent : Me (VT)/Hashemite (ME)
Conservative : JewishConservative (NC)/Politicaladdict (WY)
Labour : Marokai (OH)/Fritz (MN)
National-Socialist : Stark (CA)/Vander Blub (NC)



Absolute Blowout for the Dems :

I split the conservative vote in half, crushing the GOP Ticket, and the democratic ticket takes more states.


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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2009, 11:28:34 AM »

You idiot!
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« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2009, 11:31:36 AM »

new Scenario :

Tmthforu94 / Fezzyfestoon (GOP)
JewishConservative / Mechman  (Independent)
BenConstine /  Antonio V (Democrat)
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« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2009, 11:33:22 AM »


Why because I don't think Fab and Tmthforu will carry the conservative vote?


I have a better chance at carrying the southern states then the GOP Ticket.
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« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2009, 11:50:31 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2009, 11:58:10 AM by SOEA HappyWarrior »

new Scenario :

Tmthforu94 / Fezzyfestoon (GOP)
JewishConservative / Mechman  (Independent)
BenConstine /  Antonio V (Democrat)

JC takes about 3% of the vote, winning 0 states. Esentially a democratic blowout with 408-130



New Scenario

HappyWarrior/Franzl
MasterJedi/PiT
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Alexander Hamilton
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« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2009, 11:55:14 AM »


Why because I don't think Fab and Tmthforu will carry the conservative vote?


I have a better chance at carrying the southern states then the GOP Ticket.

You are a Jew. Don't kid yourself. Southerners=don't like Jews. Southerners=like populists, such as Tmthforu94.
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« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2009, 12:24:52 PM »

new Scenario :

Tmthforu94 / Fezzyfestoon (GOP)
JewishConservative / Mechman  (Independent)
BenConstine /  Antonio V (Democrat)

JC takes about 3% of the vote, winning 0 states. Esentially a democratic blowout with 408-130



New Scenario

HappyWarrior/Franzl
MasterJedi/PiT

Also I would literally ask the audience during the VP debate "What the hell am I doing here?"
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