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« on: August 23, 2009, 11:58:13 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8216568.stm
It's notable how many women are against the law.
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2009, 12:01:35 PM »

People are stupid and, generally, dupes for whatever the religious authorities in their homelands tell them, even if it would be beneficial for them.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2009, 12:47:52 PM »
If the majority of women in Mali want to be submissive to their husbands in their marriage then they can do that of their own choosing, but they shouldn't force women who don't want to be to do so.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2009, 01:28:23 PM »

c'mon Dibbz, you know that's not a real "choosing"




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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2009, 02:45:18 PM »
Why does this argument strike me as familiar?

"It's a tiny minority of women here that wants this new law - the intellectuals. The poor and illiterate women of this country - the real Muslims - are against it," she added.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2009, 03:10:34 PM »
Quote from: Snowguy716 on August 23, 2009, 02:45:18 PM
Why does this argument strike me as familiar?

"It's a tiny minority of women here that wants this new law - the intellectuals. The poor and illiterate women of this country - the real Muslims - are against it," she added.

Indeed.

I suspect that all this actually shows - like with Islamic fundamentalism in general - is the strong anti-modernism (or rather "modern" as "western") of alot of the people there. Which isn't particularly surprising once you consider those places history.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2009, 05:52:06 PM »
Quote from: Lunar on August 23, 2009, 01:28:23 PM

c'mon Dibbz, you know that's not a real "choosing"






Wow, that's a poorly designed graphic.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2009, 06:16:14 PM »
     A fine example of a crusade against intellectualism.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2009, 07:35:17 PM »
Quote from: Lief on August 23, 2009, 05:52:06 PM
Quote from: Lunar on August 23, 2009, 01:28:23 PM

c'mon Dibbz, you know that's not a real "choosing"






Wow, that's a poorly designed graphic.

Indeed. What does anything represent?
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2009, 10:43:19 PM »
who knows, I only posted it because Mali's on the graph
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2009, 11:29:26 PM »
Quote from: Snowguy716 on August 23, 2009, 02:45:18 PM
Why does this argument strike me as familiar?

"It's a tiny minority of women here that wants this new law - the intellectuals. The poor and illiterate women of this country - the real Muslims - are against it," she added.

My advice: get out.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 12:00:39 AM »
Quote from: Wyatt Chеsney on August 23, 2009, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: Lief on August 23, 2009, 05:52:06 PM
Quote from: Lunar on August 23, 2009, 01:28:23 PM

c'mon Dibbz, you know that's not a real "choosing"






Wow, that's a poorly designed graphic.

Indeed. What does anything represent?

Very roughly speaking the arc swept by each sector is proportional to the % of women in the country that believe it's OK to be abused.  Thus Iraq at 59% is roughly twice as wide as Haiti at 29%, which is roughly twice as wide as Honduras at 15.5%.  So instead of a pie chart basd n 100%, it's one based on 731.8%, which isn't pie shaped and has some funky graphics to further confuse the issue in misleading ways.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 02:33:29 PM »
Quote from: True Federalist on August 24, 2009, 12:00:39 AM
Quote from: Wyatt Chеsney on August 23, 2009, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: Lief on August 23, 2009, 05:52:06 PM
Quote from: Lunar on August 23, 2009, 01:28:23 PM

c'mon Dibbz, you know that's not a real "choosing"






Wow, that's a poorly designed graphic.

Indeed. What does anything represent?

Very roughly speaking the arc swept by each sector is proportional to the % of women in the country that believe it's OK to be abused.  Thus Iraq at 59% is roughly twice as wide as Haiti at 29%, which is roughly twice as wide as Honduras at 15.5%.  So instead of a pie chart basd n 100%, it's one based on 731.8%, which isn't pie shaped and has some funky graphics to further confuse the issue in misleading ways.

     Also, Serbia's slice looks just as wide as Belize & Kazakhstan's slices do, even though the percentage in Serbia is about half of what it is in the other two countries.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 02:38:02 PM »
the rectangular shape
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2009, 02:43:09 PM »
That graph shows how evil Muslim brainwashing is.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2009, 04:37:17 PM »
Quote from: The Bear Jew on August 24, 2009, 02:43:09 PM
That graph shows how evil Muslim brainwashing is.

Most of this has only a slight relationship to Islam.
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2009, 11:43:00 AM »

Yeah, just look at those majorities in India and Ethiopia. Oh, wait...
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2009, 12:09:05 PM »
Perhaps Richius should come to Mali and join these protests Wink
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2009, 12:11:17 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2009, 03:31:17 PM »
I'm sure none of those cultures thought that before Islam was introduced

or does Christianity have a civilizing effect on the savages?
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2009, 04:16:47 PM »
Quote from: Lunar on August 29, 2009, 03:31:17 PM
I'm sure none of those cultures thought that before Islam was introduced

or does Christianity have a civilizing effect on the savages?

Quite frequently it does. See Imperial China. After missionaries started spreading Christianity in the 19th century, it was the Christians that rose against and tried to stamp out things like foot-binding, concubinage, polygamy and slavery. Or see Sati in India. It wasn't the Christians practicing that. Or barbaric human sacrifices practiced by European pagans that went away after conversion to Christianity.
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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2009, 05:23:37 PM »
Quote from: Well I guess this is growing up on August 29, 2009, 04:16:47 PM
Quote from: Lunar on August 29, 2009, 03:31:17 PM
I'm sure none of those cultures thought that before Islam was introduced

or does Christianity have a civilizing effect on the savages?

Quite frequently it does. See Imperial China. After missionaries started spreading Christianity in the 19th century, it was the Christians that rose against and tried to stamp out things like foot-binding, concubinage, polygamy and slavery. Or see Sati in India. It wasn't the Christians practicing that. Or barbaric human sacrifices practiced by European pagans that went away after conversion to Christianity.

And in the same way, Islam tried to stamp out female infanticide and the caste system.
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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2009, 07:35:27 PM »
Quote from: Well I guess this is growing up on August 29, 2009, 04:16:47 PM
Quote from: Lunar on August 29, 2009, 03:31:17 PM
I'm sure none of those cultures thought that before Islam was introduced

or does Christianity have a civilizing effect on the savages?

Quite frequently it does. See Imperial China. After missionaries started spreading Christianity in the 19th century, it was the Christians that rose against and tried to stamp out things like foot-binding, concubinage, polygamy and slavery. Or see Sati in India. It wasn't the Christians practicing that. Or barbaric human sacrifices practiced by European pagans that went away after conversion to Christianity.

Ummm... LOL? Christians having influence in China? What kind of drugs are you on tonight?
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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2009, 07:45:07 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom
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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2009, 09:31:42 AM »

What's wrong with these?

Anyway it is funny how both sides share the same point about the intelligence of their supporters.
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