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Rowan
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NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Nevada Senate(Research 2000)
Tarkanian 45%
Reid 40%
Lowden 44%
Reid 41%
http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2009/9/2/NV/357
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Good. Throw Reid out.
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Senator Schumer for majority leader I say.
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Reid gets a bad rap from Dems... it's not easy to control the Senate, but as Majority Leader, he takes all the crap for the collective intransigence of the institution.
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Mr.Phips
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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This is Reid's own fault. Timidity and compromise get you no where in politics these days.
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Lief
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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I don't understand why we keep selecting Majority Leaders from red states? The Republicans have the right idea, picking crazy conservative people from crazy conservative states (and even then McConnell nearly lost re-election).
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Quote from: Lief on September 03, 2009, 06:01:12 pm
I don't understand why we keep selecting Majority Leaders from red states? The Republicans have the right idea, picking crazy conservative people from crazy conservative states (and even then McConnell nearly lost re-election).
Because during the 90's when Reid was in leadership NV wasn't that red, it had two democratic senators in Bryan and Reid and went for Clinton twice.
I guest people didn't expect Bush to carry the state twice and become the land of Wayne Newton.
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Alexander Hamilton
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Quote from: WEB Dubois on September 03, 2009, 06:17:18 pm
Quote from: Lief on September 03, 2009, 06:01:12 pm
I don't understand why we keep selecting Majority Leaders from red states? The Republicans have the right idea, picking crazy conservative people from crazy conservative states (and even then McConnell nearly lost re-election).
Because during the 90's when Reid was in leadership NV wasn't that red, it had two democratic senators in Bryan and Reid and went for Clinton twice.
I guest people didn't expect Bush to carry the state twice and become the land of Wayne Newton.
Reid won his largest majority in 2004.
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Quote from: Lief on September 03, 2009, 06:01:12 pm
I don't understand why we keep selecting Majority Leaders from red states? The Republicans have the right idea, picking crazy conservative people from crazy conservative states (and even then McConnell nearly lost re-election).
Excellent point lief. I really hope that Reid doesn't lose but if he does schumer would make a much better choice than say dorgan or Pryor. A senate majority leaders' popularity will always ebb and flow with the approval of the legislation being passed. But someone like schumer is way hard to knock off, even if he is seen as unpopular due to unpopular legislation.
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[Excellent point lief. I really hope that Reid doesn't lose but if he does schumer would make a much better choice than say dorgan or Pryor. A senate majority leaders' popularity will always ebb and flow with the approval of the legislation being passed. But someone like schumer is way hard to knock off, even if he is seen as unpopular due to unpopular legislation.
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That's what I was referring to, I liked leader Reid when he was much more popular, but it is hard to pile on when he is unpopular now.
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biggzcorey
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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If the GOP throws out Harrry Reid for majority leader, then they would just be screwing themselves. If it's not Reid, then your going to get either Schumer or Durbin. Trust me, neither of these two will be nearly as bipartisan or as willing to look for compromise as Reid was.
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Quote from: biggzcorey on September 03, 2009, 09:56:10 pm
If the GOP throws out Harrry Reid for majority leader, then they would just be screwing themselves. If it's not Reid, then your going to get either Schumer or Durbin. Trust me, neither of these two will be nearly as bipartisan or as willing to look for compromise as Reid was.
Odious, snarling majority leader your party can use as the poster boy for everything that's wrong with the Democratic Party, especially in fundraising AND another seat in the Senate, possibly taking away a filibuster-proof majority... or... keeping Harry Reid in the Senate.
I know which most Republicans would prefer.
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We need a Majority Leader with balls.
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Quote from: Deeds for Governor '09 on September 03, 2009, 10:37:40 pm
We need a Majority Leader with balls.
I agree, like some sort of non-southern LBJ clone. But who would it be? I think Schumer would be a good choice.
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Quote from: Mr.Phips on September 03, 2009, 05:43:54 pm
This is Reid's own fault. Timidity and compromise get you no where in politics these days.
they get you elected in purple states and they get you elected majority leader, but yeah, besides that
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Quote from: Lief on September 03, 2009, 06:01:12 pm
I don't understand why we keep selecting Majority Leaders from red states? The Republicans have the right idea, picking crazy conservative people from crazy conservative states (and even then McConnell nearly lost re-election).
Obama did win spineless Reid's state by 12.5 points.
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Quote from: Lief on September 03, 2009, 06:01:12 pm
I don't understand why we keep selecting Majority Leaders from red states?
Nevada is hardly a Republican state anymore.
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Quote from: Mr. Morden on September 04, 2009, 01:05:19 am
Quote from: Lief on September 03, 2009, 06:01:12 pm
I don't understand why we keep selecting Majority Leaders from red states?
Nevada is hardly a Republican state anymore.
Nevada is always a swing state - it practically always votes with the winner of the election. And secondly, the majority leader will end up being Durbin, who is Obama's Chicago buddy. Obama is just as crony-possesed as GWB and he is putting the Chicago Way in place (as opposed to Bush's Texas batch) - this only helps more. This also may be why Obama will show mediocre support of Reid when it comes to election time unless the democrats are looking at a massive loss of senate seats (say 6-8).
Durbin is actually preferrable to Reid though, and I say this with a little over-confidence, but Durbin is one of the more smarmy characters in Washington - he can be bought and will likely form influence peddling cabals of both republicans and democrats to pass legislation. Reid is somewhat like that, but Reid never sells out the party on liberal principles. Durbin will.
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Quote from: azmagic on September 04, 2009, 01:14:20 am
Quote from: Mr. Morden on September 04, 2009, 01:05:19 am
Quote from: Lief on September 03, 2009, 06:01:12 pm
I don't understand why we keep selecting Majority Leaders from red states?
Nevada is hardly a Republican state anymore.
Nevada is always a swing state - it practically always votes with the winner of the election. And secondly, the majority leader will end up being Durbin, who is Obama's Chicago buddy. Obama is just as crony-possesed as GWB and he is putting the Chicago Way in place (as opposed to Bush's Texas batch) - this only helps more. This also may be why Obama will show mediocre support of Reid when it comes to election time unless the democrats are looking at a massive loss of senate seats (say 6-8).
Durbin is actually preferrable to Reid though, and I say this with a little over-confidence, but Durbin is one of the more smarmy characters in Washington - he can be bought and will likely form influence peddling cabals of both republicans and democrats to pass legislation. Reid is somewhat like that, but Reid never sells out the party on liberal principles. Durbin will.
Fun fact: Durbin is from Springfield, not Chicago.
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September 04, 2009, 08:33:00 am »
If Reid (NV) and Dodd (CT) both lose their seats. then Lincoln(AR),Bennett(CO),and Specter(PA) will lose. Democrats will narrowly hold onto IL(Giannoulias). DE if Castle runs will be a tossup. Democrats will pick up OPEN GOP seats in MO,NH,and OH.
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Delaware open, Bennet, and Reid are most in jeopardy of losing. If we lose those states, with the exception of 1 of those tossup republican races, I don't see us retaining 60 votes.
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Quote from: biggzcorey on September 04, 2009, 12:21:18 am
I agree, like some sort of non-southern LBJ clone. But who would it be? I think Schumer would be a good choice.
Schumer is my personal pick to replace Reid.
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Rowan
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Ben Nelson would probably be the best.
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on September 04, 2009, 07:13:02 am
Quote from: azmagic on September 04, 2009, 01:14:20 am
Quote from: Mr. Morden on September 04, 2009, 01:05:19 am
Quote from: Lief on September 03, 2009, 06:01:12 pm
I don't understand why we keep selecting Majority Leaders from red states?
Nevada is hardly a Republican state anymore.
Nevada is always a swing state - it practically always votes with the winner of the election. And secondly, the majority leader will end up being Durbin, who is Obama's Chicago buddy. Obama is just as crony-possesed as GWB and he is putting the Chicago Way in place (as opposed to Bush's Texas batch) - this only helps more. This also may be why Obama will show mediocre support of Reid when it comes to election time unless the democrats are looking at a massive loss of senate seats (say 6-8).
Durbin is actually preferrable to Reid though, and I say this with a little over-confidence, but Durbin is one of the more smarmy characters in Washington - he can be bought and will likely form influence peddling cabals of both republicans and democrats to pass legislation. Reid is somewhat like that, but Reid never sells out the party on liberal principles. Durbin will.
Fun fact: Durbin is from Springfield, not Chicago.
Fun fact: Any candidate in Illinois has to get the blessing of Chicago. Durbin is deeply mired in its politics.
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Re: NV: R2K/KOS: Reid trails even in KOS poll
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Quote from: Senator RowanBrandon on September 04, 2009, 01:38:25 pm
Ben Nelson would probably be the best.
lol no.
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