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« Reply #50 on: September 10, 2009, 08:21:04 PM »

     Freezing the minimum wage in times of deflation might backfire if the economy deflates enough. I don't know enough about the effects of Hoover's/FDR's policies in the Great Depression to be sure about this, though.

This amendment is worse than the original bill.
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« Reply #51 on: September 11, 2009, 12:15:03 AM »

     Freezing the minimum wage in times of deflation might backfire if the economy deflates enough. I don't know enough about the effects of Hoover's/FDR's policies in the Great Depression to be sure about this, though.

This amendment is worse than the original bill.

I am sure than if the economy goes thought an very heavy and permanent deflation, senators will be able to manage that by changing the law.
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« Reply #52 on: September 11, 2009, 10:46:04 PM »

Bump to this. Is anyone working on an amendment re: deflation or what-have-you? Otherwise, this is clear to have a final vote in a couple of hours.
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« Reply #53 on: September 11, 2009, 10:56:26 PM »

I'd like to make some amendments to the wage violations section:

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« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2009, 12:05:26 AM »

Would that be $30,000 per employee or $30,000 regardless of the number of employees?
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« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2009, 12:21:07 AM »

Would that be $30,000 per employee or $30,000 regardless of the number of employees?

I suppose $30,000 regarding the findings no matter the number of employees.
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« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2009, 08:34:20 PM »

I'm going to try (although I have quite a bit of work to do this weekend) to get a report on this by Monday. Expect one next week for sure.
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« Reply #57 on: September 12, 2009, 08:36:04 PM »

Does anyone object to my change?
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« Reply #58 on: September 13, 2009, 09:48:59 AM »

I can start a vote on the amendment right now if someone calls for it.
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« Reply #59 on: September 13, 2009, 09:49:45 AM »


No objections on my part.
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« Reply #60 on: September 13, 2009, 12:35:10 PM »

I object.

A fine of up to £30,000 for one violation, deliberate or in error (and trust me it happens! People in my workplace were paid under the minimum wage for 3 months due to an error) could be enough to close a workplace down and cast it's employees into unemployment. The reasons for taking legal action against an employer have to be tightened in the legislation.
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« Reply #61 on: September 13, 2009, 12:38:49 PM »

I object.

A fine of up to £30,000 for one violation, deliberate or in error (and trust me it happens! People in my workplace were paid under the minimum wage for 3 months due to an error) could be enough to close a workplace down and cast it's employees into unemployment. The reasons for taking legal action against an employer have to be tightened in the legislation.

Good thing we don't use pounds. Tongue
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« Reply #62 on: September 13, 2009, 12:54:22 PM »

I object.

A fine of up to £30,000 for one violation, deliberate or in error (and trust me it happens! People in my workplace were paid under the minimum wage for 3 months due to an error) could be enough to close a workplace down and cast it's employees into unemployment. The reasons for taking legal action against an employer have to be tightened in the legislation.

Good thing we don't use pounds. Tongue

Yes. Given the weakness of the Dollar Grin Wink
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« Reply #63 on: September 13, 2009, 01:19:01 PM »

I object.

A fine of up to £30,000 for one violation, deliberate or in error (and trust me it happens! People in my workplace were paid under the minimum wage for 3 months due to an error) could be enough to close a workplace down and cast it's employees into unemployment. The reasons for taking legal action against an employer have to be tightened in the legislation.

Good thing we don't use pounds. Tongue

Yes. Given the weakness of the Dollar Grin Wink

In all seriousness, that's actually a pretty small fine, I mean, $5.28 isn't very much Wink
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« Reply #64 on: September 13, 2009, 05:49:42 PM »

I object.

A fine of up to £30,000 for one violation, deliberate or in error (and trust me it happens! People in my workplace were paid under the minimum wage for 3 months due to an error) could be enough to close a workplace down and cast it's employees into unemployment. The reasons for taking legal action against an employer have to be tightened in the legislation.

Good thing we don't use pounds. Tongue

Yes. Given the weakness of the Dollar Grin Wink

I have a feeling you will be using Euros soon anyway. Tongue Just a gut feeling.

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« Reply #65 on: September 13, 2009, 09:00:16 PM »

I suppose I'm fine keeping the first penalty lower, as long as we can agree on harsher penalties for bigger businesses.
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« Reply #66 on: September 13, 2009, 09:50:48 PM »

I object.

A fine of up to £30,000 for one violation, deliberate or in error (and trust me it happens! People in my workplace were paid under the minimum wage for 3 months due to an error) could be enough to close a workplace down and cast it's employees into unemployment. The reasons for taking legal action against an employer have to be tightened in the legislation.

Good thing we don't use pounds. Tongue

Yes. Given the weakness of the Dollar Grin Wink

I have a feeling you will be using Euros soon anyway. Tongue Just a gut feeling.

No, The Sun hates Europe.
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« Reply #67 on: September 14, 2009, 12:04:07 PM »

I object.

A fine of up to £30,000 for one violation, deliberate or in error (and trust me it happens! People in my workplace were paid under the minimum wage for 3 months due to an error) could be enough to close a workplace down and cast it's employees into unemployment. The reasons for taking legal action against an employer have to be tightened in the legislation.

Good thing we don't use pounds. Tongue

Yes. Given the weakness of the Dollar Grin Wink

I have a feeling you will be using Euros soon anyway. Tongue Just a gut feeling.

No, The Sun Murdoch hates Europe.

^^^friendly amendment Smiley
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« Reply #68 on: September 14, 2009, 03:08:22 PM »

I object.

A fine of up to £30,000 for one violation, deliberate or in error (and trust me it happens! People in my workplace were paid under the minimum wage for 3 months due to an error) could be enough to close a workplace down and cast it's employees into unemployment. The reasons for taking legal action against an employer have to be tightened in the legislation.

Good thing we don't use pounds. Tongue

Yes. Given the weakness of the Dollar Grin Wink

I have a feeling you will be using Euros soon anyway. Tongue Just a gut feeling.

No, The Sun Murdoch hates Europe.

^^^friendly amendment Smiley

Accepted as friendly. Smiley
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« Reply #69 on: September 15, 2009, 07:18:06 AM »

I'll just ignore (or withdraw, what have you) my earlier change and make this instead, taking Afleitch's concerns into account:

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It's true, I don't want to punish smaller businesses, but larger businesses have no excuse, and deserve to be punished hard.
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« Reply #70 on: September 16, 2009, 01:46:47 PM »

I hereby opne up a vote on this amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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« Reply #71 on: September 16, 2009, 02:03:04 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #72 on: September 16, 2009, 02:35:52 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #73 on: September 16, 2009, 02:47:06 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #74 on: September 16, 2009, 03:22:54 PM »

Well that wasn't at all what I just wrote. So nay.
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