Drudge Siren: Dems Don't Have the Votes

[Rowan]

At least 44 more moderate Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record in opposition to the current health care bill in the House, Hill source claims. Likewise, at least 57 liberal Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record saying they will vote against a health care bill without a strong public option. In other words, unless multiple Democrats flip on their stated position on health care, Speaker Pelosi lacks the votes to pass a bill through the House on the strength of Democrat votes alone.

WHIP COUNT

44 Democrats Opposed

1. Rep. Altmire
2. Rep. Adler
3. Rep. Barrow
4. Rep. Boren
5. Rep. Boucher
6. Rep. Boyd
7. Rep. Bright
8. Rep. Carney
9. Rep. Childers
11. Rep. Cleaver
12. Rep. Cooper
13. Rep. Costello
14. Rep. Cuellar
15. Rep. Dahlkamper
16. Rep. Davis
17. Rep. Driehaus
18. Rep. Ellsworth
19. Rep. Gordon
20. Rep. Griffith
21. Rep. Halvorson
22. Rep. Hill
23. Rep. Holden
24. Rep. Kanjorski
25. Rep. Kaptur
26. Rep. F Kratovil
27. Rep. Marshall
28. Rep. Massa
29. Rep. Melancon
30. Rep. McIntyre
31. Rep. Minnick
32. Rep. Murtha
33. Rep. Oberstar
34. Rep. Ortiz
35. Rep. Perriello
36. Rep. Peterson
37. Rep. Polis
38. Rep. Pomeroy
39. Rep. Ross
40. Rep. Shuler
41. Rep. Stupak
42. Rep. Tanner
43. Rep. Taylor
44. Rep. Titus

http://drudgereport.com/flashwc.htm

[Lunar]

that's why a trigger will be the compromise

[Marokai Backbeat]

that's why a trigger will be the compromise

This was the compromise. Compromising twice isn't negotiating, it's a give-away.

Not that we seem to have much of a choice, mind you.

[Lief 🗽]

that's why a trigger will be the compromise

The public option is the compromise.

[Eraserhead]

These blue dogs won't be missed after '10.

[Lunar]

also, not all of these are solid no's, like if you look at drudge's sources

http://drudgereport.com/flashwc.htm

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does that mean he'll vote against the public option? yes

does that mean he'll vote against any bill with a public option?  no


and some of it is just pro-lifers asking for a direct exception for abortion funding,

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIhggEymGHw#t=0m15s

The summer wind came blowin' in
From across the sea
It lingered there to touch your hair
And walk with me

All summer long
we sang a song
And then we strolled that golden sand
Two sweethearts and the summer wind

Like painted kites, those days and nights
They went flying by
The world was new beneath the blue
Umbrella sky

Then softer than a piper man
One day, it called to you
I lost you I lost you to
The summer wind
The autumn wind
And the winter winds
They have come and gone
And still those days
Those lonely days
They go on and on
And guess who’s sigh`s
His lullabies through nights that never end
My fickled friend,
The summer wind
The summer wind warm summer wind
Mmm the summer wind

[Lunar]

that's why a trigger will be the compromise

The public option is the compromise.

Not after the debate became public option vs. no public option

[Rowan]

Without the public option though, will the progressives really back out or will they cave?

[Lunar]

like, Drudge has John Murtha down as a moderate Democrat "no" vote.

[Bacon King]

that's why a trigger will be the compromise

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Even Ben Nelson said he'd be cool voting for a public-option-with-trigger. It's not even so much a compromise as it is a repackaging.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Without the public option though, will the progressives really back out or will they cave?

We are satisfied with any bill that makes health care accessible to more people through means of increased affordability and coverage of those who have pre-existing conditions.

[Meeker]

Without the public option though, will the progressives really back out or will they cave?

We are satisfied with any bill that makes health care accessible to more people through means of increased affordability and coverage of those who have pre-existing conditions.

Why did you answer that question? He was asking progressives. Wait, are you going to try to convince us you're a progressive? Ahahahahahhaa

Any real progressive would have an incredible problem with a lack of a public option.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Without the public option though, will the progressives really back out or will they cave?

We are satisfied with any bill that makes health care accessible to more people through means of increased affordability and coverage of those who have pre-existing conditions.

Why did you answer that question? He was asking progressives. Wait, are you going to try to convince us you're a progressive? Ahahahahahhaa

Any real progressive would have an incredible problem with a lack of a public option.

I've always been Progressive. My favorite President was the 1912 Progressive Party nominee.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

A good chunk of those just seem to be opposed to any bill that could cover abortions. Make it clear that the plan wouldn't cover that would do it.

[JSojourner]

Kaptur a no?  That seems odd.

[JSojourner]

A good chunk of those just seem to be opposed to any bill that could cover abortions. Make it clear that the plan wouldn't cover that would do it.

Well, that could explain Kaptur.  She's pretty liberal on most issues but happens to be very anti-choice.  The President was unequivocal on that point tonight, however.  So that should clear things up.

[Democratic Hawk]

A good chunk of those just seem to be opposed to any bill that could cover abortions. Make it clear that the plan wouldn't cover that would do it.

Well, that could explain Kaptur.  She's pretty liberal on most issues but happens to be very anti-choice.  The President was unequivocal on that point tonight, however.  So that should clear things up.

In a letter, cited by Drudge, to Speaker Pelosi, the following Democratic representatives: Childers (MS-01); Costello (IL-12), Dahlkemper (PA-03), Davis (TN-05), Driehaus (OH-01), Holden (PA-17), Kanjorski (PA-11), Kaptur (OH-09), McIntyre (NC-07), Melancon (LA-03), Murtha (PA-12), Oberstar (MN-08) and Ortiz (TX27) wrote:

“We Cannot Support Any Health Care Reform Proposal Unless It Explicitly Excludes Abortion From The Scope Of Any Government-Defined Or Subsidized Health Insurance Plan.” “We believe in a culture that supports and respects the right to life and is dedicated to the protection and preservation of families. Therefore, we cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan. We believe that a government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan, should not be used to fund abortion.” (Letter To Speaker Pelosi, 6/25/09)

Reps. Stupak (MI-01) and Perriello (VA-05) have also raised concerns