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Author Topic: Favourite Nixon Quote?  (Read 1760 times)
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« on: September 11, 2009, 07:13:53 pm »
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The Allende/Fezzy's whinge against people NOT RESPECTING 9/11 OMG thread got me thinking - we need the greatest Nixon Quote thread (perhaps we can turn into a survivor?). This has to be the greatest quote by Nixon, not about Nixon or else this thread would nothing but five pages of Hunter S. Thompson with that line about the only thing making Nixon happy seeing a paraplegic try to vote democratic but unable to reach the level would win (though HSTs comments on Nixon's funeral might give that a close running).

Anyway, the Gully Foyle backed nominations are (all taken from Wikiquote - some are responses to Kissinger - Kissinger bits in Italic. Nixon in Normal Font):

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The only place where you and I disagree ... is with regard to the bombing. You're so goddamned concerned about civilians and I don't give a damn. I don't care.
Kissinger: I'm concerned about the civilians because I don't want the world to be mobilized against you as a butcher.


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As long as I'm sitting in the chair, there's not going to be any Jew appointed to that court. [No Jew] can be right on the criminal-law issue.

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Well, when the President does it that means that it is not illegal.

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So few of those who engage in espionage — are Negroes. ... In fact, very few of them become Communists. If they do, they like, they get into Angela Davis — they're more the capitalist type. And they throw bombs and this and that. But the Negroes. — have you ever noticed? ... Any Negro spies?

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You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana are Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists. 

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Nixon: I still think we ought to take the North Vietnamese dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no, I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you?...I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.

These are from the tape transcripts:
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"Archie's Guys." Archie is sitting here with his hippie son-in-law, married to the screwball daughter. The son-in-law apparently goes both ways. This guy. He's obviously queer — wears an ascot — but not offensively so. Very clever. Uses nice language. Shows pictures of his parents. And so Arch goes down to the bar. Sees his best friend, who used to play professional football. Virile, strong, this and that. Then the fairy comes into the bar.
I don't mind the homosexuality. I understand it. Nevertheless, goddamn, I don't think you glorify it on public television, homosexuality, even more than you glorify whores. We all know we have weaknesses. But, goddammit, what do you think that does to kids? You know what happened to the Greeks! Homosexuality destroyed them. Sure, Aristotle was a homo. We all know that. So was Socrates.

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I have the greatest affection for them but I know they're not going to make it for 500 years. They aren't. You know it, too. The Mexicans are a different cup of tea. They have a heritage. At the present time they steal, they're dishonest, but they do have some concept of family life. They don't live like a bunch of dogs, which the Negroes do live like.

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You know what happened to the Romans? The last six Roman emperors were fags. Neither in a public way. You know what happened to the popes? They were layin' the nuns; that's been goin' on for years, centuries. But the Catholic Church went to hell three or four centuries ago. It was homosexual, and it had to be cleaned out. That's what's happened to Britain. It happened earlier to France.
Let's look at the strong societies. The Russians. Goddamn, they root 'em out. They don't let 'em around at all. I don't know what they do with them. Look at this country. You think the Russians allow dope? Homosexuality, dope, immorality, are the enemies of strong societies. That's why the Communists and left-wingers are clinging to one another. They're trying to destroy us. I know Moynihan will disagree with this, [Attorney General John] Mitchell will, and Garment will. But, goddamn, we have to stand up to this.

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There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white. Or a rape.

For more: http://nixontapes.org/origin.htm

EDIT: Changed #6.
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2009, 07:16:17 pm »
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Option 7 should be eliminated first. I can't  can believe he said that.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2009, 07:17:25 pm »
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The Allende/Fezzy's whinge against people NOT RESPECTING 9/11 OMG

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 07:19:29 pm »
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Three, because it's entirely true.
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2009, 07:25:04 pm »
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Missed this one - also from Wikiquote:

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Nixon: I still think we ought to take the North Vietnamese dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no, I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you?...I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.

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EDIT: No need for write-in. Made an earlier mistake and repeated one of the quotes - it is now Option Six. I'm voting for it.
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2009, 07:43:31 pm »
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Missed this one - also from Wikiquote:

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Nixon: I still think we ought to take the North Vietnamese dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no, I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you?...I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.

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Brilliant. The man was clearly insane.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2009, 07:49:27 pm »
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It makes me warm and fuzzy inside to know that this man will always be remembered as one of the most disgracful and worst presidents that America has ever had. 

He was truly a horrible man, when he makes me feel that maybe Dubaya wasn't that bad after all, just by reading a few quotes.

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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2009, 07:49:48 pm »
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Missed this one - also from Wikiquote:

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Nixon: I still think we ought to take the North Vietnamese dikes out now. Will that drown people?
Kissinger: About two hundred thousand people.
Nixon: No, no, no, I'd rather use the nuclear bomb. Have you got that, Henry?
Kissinger: That, I think, would just be too much.
Nixon: The nuclear bomb, does that bother you?...I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes.

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Brilliant. The man was clearly [b]insane.[/b] brilliant.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2009, 07:22:14 am »
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Just an american fascist who spoke his mind - in other words a kind of everyman.  But I will say he was a very amusing personality.  I doubt Hitler was ever this funny.

I voted number five - they're all good, but saying 'I suppose it is because most've them are psychiatrists' is just hilarious.  Its like Woody Allen and Herman Goering all wrapped up in one twitchy package.
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Just an american fascist who spoke his mind - in other words a kind of everyman.  But I will say he was a very amusing personality.  I doubt Hitler was ever this funny.

I voted number five - they're all good, but saying 'I suppose it is because most've them are psychiatrists' is just hilarious.  Its like Woody Allen and Herman Goering all wrapped up in one twitchy package.

I bet you would have said them all.........Wink
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2009, 04:30:48 pm »
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Option 3.

Because it proved how Nixon's corruption blinded  him.
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2009, 04:33:33 pm »
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Option 8
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2009, 04:46:31 pm »
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Changing mine to Option 10.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2009, 04:49:04 pm »
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Option 6!
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2009, 05:00:45 pm »
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I happen to like all of them.

I also think I might have said something similar to each of them of some point in my life, but I was never paranoid enough to record such statements for posterity.
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Option 3 -it encapsulates the man perfectly. 
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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2009, 07:12:36 pm »
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Certainly 3. This quote seems almost prescient after W. and Cheney's co-presidency.
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I happen to like all of them.

I also think I might have said something similar to each of them of some point in my life...

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Option 10!
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Bump in honour (?) of the man's centenary.
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Of all the threads I've created in this forum, I think this is the one I'm proudest of.
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2013, 07:08:01 am »
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As horrendous as they might be, I suspect that quotes 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10 are relatively par for the course for a conservative man born in the 1910s.

3 pretty much epitomizes Nixon's idea of power. But I'd say the scariest ones are by far 1 and 6. This man was clearly a sociopath.
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2013, 07:15:30 pm »
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Probably 3--especially when Frost asks him "By definiton?", and he responds, "Exactly."  And Nixon was a strong supporter of civil rights, so I can't believe that he ever said some of those things.  And remember that he was a Quaker, and they have a long history of fighting for civil rights.  So even if some of his personal views were bigoted (and given the context of the time, those quotes hardly prove that), he wasn't blinded by it in his political life.

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I voted 5 because it is up the alley of some of my main autobiographical interests (marijuana, psychotherapy, Jewish background).  Nixon reads more like a Russian novel character than I'd imagined.
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2013, 11:27:03 pm »
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There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white. Or a rape.

I believe this comment would make Nixon a "liberal" in the modern GOP's eyes. After all, what kind of degenerate wants to allow abortion in cases of rape?
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