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« Reply #125 on: January 08, 2011, 05:41:38 pm »
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Oh damn, I think you guys are being a bit too optimistic there... Sad I'll do my best but I really can't tell you how soon you will have it updated... You know, I've so many things to do (Senate business could take a lot of time for example Tongue)...

I really don't want to disappoint you, and I will do my best not to. But please don't expect too much too soon. Cry
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« Reply #126 on: January 11, 2011, 07:35:55 am »
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I feel like NOVA would split from Virginia as well and possibly be it's own state.
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« Reply #127 on: January 11, 2011, 07:58:45 am »
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I feel like NOVA would split from Virginia as well and possibly be it's own state.

You're right, that's something worth thinking about. Otherwise, why not giving it to Maryland along with DC ?
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« Reply #128 on: January 11, 2011, 08:24:40 am »
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I feel like NOVA would split from Virginia as well and possibly be it's own state.

You're right, that's something worth thinking about. Otherwise, why not giving it to Maryland along with DC ?

You could incorporate it into DC and make DC it's own state as well. Maryland doesn't need it. Tongue
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« Reply #129 on: January 11, 2011, 08:43:02 am »
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I feel like NOVA would split from Virginia as well and possibly be it's own state.

You're right, that's something worth thinking about. Otherwise, why not giving it to Maryland along with DC ?

You could incorporate it into DC and make DC it's own state as well. Maryland doesn't need it. Tongue

Isn't DC basically part of the metro area that also includes Baltimore and all ? Reuniting them makes sense IMO.
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« Reply #130 on: January 11, 2011, 09:06:49 am »
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I feel like NOVA would split from Virginia as well and possibly be it's own state.

You're right, that's something worth thinking about. Otherwise, why not giving it to Maryland along with DC ?

You could incorporate it into DC and make DC it's own state as well. Maryland doesn't need it. Tongue

Isn't DC basically part of the metro area that also includes Baltimore and all ? Reuniting them makes sense IMO.


The makes sense, but I feel like they should all be reunited as their own entity. I don't think it should all go to Maryland.
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« Reply #131 on: January 11, 2011, 09:43:03 am »
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I feel like NOVA would split from Virginia as well and possibly be it's own state.

You're right, that's something worth thinking about. Otherwise, why not giving it to Maryland along with DC ?

You could incorporate it into DC and make DC it's own state as well. Maryland doesn't need it. Tongue

Isn't DC basically part of the metro area that also includes Baltimore and all ? Reuniting them makes sense IMO.


The makes sense, but I feel like they should all be reunited as their own entity. I don't think it should all go to Maryland.

The only difference is the name of the State. Wink
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« Reply #132 on: January 11, 2011, 09:46:01 am »
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I feel like NOVA would split from Virginia as well and possibly be it's own state.

You're right, that's something worth thinking about. Otherwise, why not giving it to Maryland along with DC ?

You could incorporate it into DC and make DC it's own state as well. Maryland doesn't need it. Tongue

Isn't DC basically part of the metro area that also includes Baltimore and all ? Reuniting them makes sense IMO.


The makes sense, but I feel like they should all be reunited as their own entity. I don't think it should all go to Maryland.

The only difference is the name of the State. Wink


Fair enough. Tongue
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« Reply #133 on: March 19, 2011, 06:46:02 pm »
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does anyone here know how to make maps. I want to make a map of a state called Wabash (couldn't think of a better name). It includes the following CDs: OH 4, OH 8, IN 3-9, IL 15, IL 19, IL 12, MO 4, MO 7, MO 8, KS 1, KS 2, KS 4, and NE 3.
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« Reply #134 on: March 20, 2011, 04:55:22 am »
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does anyone here know how to make maps. I want to make a map of a state called Wabash (couldn't think of a better name). It includes the following CDs: OH 4, OH 8, IN 3-9, IL 15, IL 19, IL 12, MO 4, MO 7, MO 8, KS 1, KS 2, KS 4, and NE 3.

You have to use paint.
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« Reply #135 on: March 20, 2011, 07:17:30 pm »
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I can give you Washington, if you want.  Wink
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« Reply #136 on: March 21, 2011, 03:45:47 pm »
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I can give you Washington, if you want.  Wink

Nah, I swear I will finish this project, some day. Smiley

I really enjoy it, but it's just too time-consuming for me to restart it now.
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« Reply #137 on: April 21, 2011, 01:56:59 pm »
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I couldn't find the topic where we posted a map which favors democrats or republicans, so I'll post it here. tell me what you think about it Wink :

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My evolution (by The Political Matrix):
E: -6.06 -> -6.97 -> -6.97 -> -8.13 -> -7.29 -> -8.26 -> -8.65 -> -7.03
S: -6.78 -> -6.09 -> -7.30 -> -7.13 -> -8.09 -> -8.35 -> -9.04 -> -8.61
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« Reply #138 on: April 21, 2011, 01:57:51 pm »
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can you see it?
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E: -6.06 -> -6.97 -> -6.97 -> -8.13 -> -7.29 -> -8.26 -> -8.65 -> -7.03
S: -6.78 -> -6.09 -> -7.30 -> -7.13 -> -8.09 -> -8.35 -> -9.04 -> -8.61
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« Reply #139 on: October 12, 2011, 07:51:49 am »
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Great thread.
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« Reply #140 on: March 10, 2012, 04:55:41 am »
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I just found this and it's incredible! I'd love to see it continued. Great work.
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« Reply #141 on: March 10, 2012, 05:14:02 am »
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I know I should continue this some day... Unfortunately there are many other projects I'm working on right now, and I don't have much free time. I doubt anything will come before this summer, at best. Sad
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« Reply #142 on: March 10, 2012, 02:33:10 pm »
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can you see it?

That map is frightening Wink
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« Reply #143 on: March 19, 2012, 01:02:17 am »
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I remember this project, and I really want to see it completed.

In the meantime, however:

1912 Presidential Election Results, Chicago:
Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive): 220,255 (39.42%)
Woodrow Wilson (D): 168,009 (30.07%)
William Taft (R): 106,342 (19.03%)
Others: 64,162 (11.48%)

1912 Presidential Election Results, Allegheny:
Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive): 191,110 (37.70%)
Woodrow Wilson (D): 157,638 (31.09%)
William Taft (R): 91,904 (18.13%)
Others: 66,329 (13.08%)

1912 Presidential Election Results, Pennsylvania:
Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive): 251,246 (35.56%)
Woodrow Wilson (D): 237,999 (33.69%)
William Taft (R): 180,031 (25.48%)
Others: 37,261 (5.27%)

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« Reply #144 on: November 14, 2012, 03:38:36 pm »
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I've decided to calculate the (unofficial) 2012 results for all of the states featured so far. Hopefully this will inspire Antonio to complete this project...

New England
Barack Obama (D): 966,510 (56.16%)
Mitt Romney (R): 713,047 (41.43%)
Others: 41,426 (2.41%)
LNPI: +12.00 (from +10.57 in 2008, a Democratic trend of 1.43)

Massachusetts:
Barack Obama (D): 2,179,819 (61.00%)
Mitt Romney (R): 1,334,458 (37.34%)
Others: 59,340 (1.66%)
LNPI: +20.93 (from +18.81 in 2008, a Democratic trend of 2.12)

New York:
Barack Obama (D): 2,573,302 (68.45%) (that's a swing to Obama)
Mitt Romney (R): 1,146,460 (30.49%)
Others: 39,845 (1.06%)
LNPI: +35.23 (from +29.88 in 2008, a Democratic trend of 5.35)

Adirondack:
Barack Obama (D): 1,302,524 (53.62%)
Mitt Romney (R): 1,080,177 (44.46%)
Others: 46,674 (1.92%)
LNPI: +6.43 (from +2.34 in 2008, a Democratic trend of 4.09)

Pennsylvania:
Barack Obama (D): 1,951,932 (56.96%)
Mitt Romney (R): 1,434,427 (41.86%)
Others: 40,309 (1.18%)
LNPI: +12.37 (from +12.04 in 2008, a Democratic trend of 0.33)

Allegheny:
Mitt Romney (R): 1,160,747 (54.63%)
Barack Obama (D): 935,289 (44.02%)
Others: 28,606 (1.35%)
LNPI: -13.34 (from -11.23 in 2008, a Republican trend of 2.11)

Maryland:
Barack Obama (D): 2,012,238 (63.23%)
Mitt Romney (R): 1,106,497 (34.77%)
Others: 63,799 (2.00%)
LNPI: +25.73 (from +22.98 in 2008, a Democratic trend of 2.75)

Erie:
Barack Obama (D): 1,287,331 (58.07%)
Mitt Romney (R): 899,420 (40.57%)
Others: 30,086 (1.36%)
LNPI: +14.77 (from +12.52 in 2008, a Democratic trend of 2.25)

Ohio:
Mitt Romney (R): 1,684,162 (53.75%)
Barack Obama (D): 1,403,510 (44.79%)
Others: 45,631 (1.46%)
LNPI: -11.69 (from -13.58 in 2008, a Democratic trend of 1.89)

Indiana:
Mitt Romney (R): 1,280,249 (56.55%)
Barack Obama (D): 938,560 (41.46%)
Others: 45,004 (1.99%)
LNPI: -17.82 (from -9.57 in 2008, a Republican trend of 9.57)

Chicago:
Barack Obama (D): 2,413,084 (63.47%)
Mitt Romney (R): 1,333,766 (35.08%)
Others: 55,068 (1.45%)
LNPI: +25.66 (from +27.78 in 2008, a Republican trend of 2.12)

Illinois:
Mitt Romney (R): 937,729 (53.02%)
Barack Obama (D): 795,124 (44.95%)
Others: 35,869 (2.03%)
LNPI: -10.80 (from -4.01 in 2008, a Republican trend of 6.79)

Wisconsin:
Barack Obama (D): 1,637,600 (52.49%)
Mitt Romney (R): 1,447,178 (46.39%)
Others: 34,944 (1.12%)
LNPI: +3.37 (from +6.13 in 2008, a Republican trend of 2.76)

Michigan:
Barack Obama (D): 2,491,528 (54.51%)
Mitt Romney (R): 2,037,766 (44.58%)
Others: 41,364 (0.90%)
LNPI: +7.20 (from +9.52 in 2008, a Republican trend of 2.32)

North Florida:
Mitt Romney (R): 2,005,166 (54.45%)
Barack Obama (D): 1,640,531 (44.55%)
Others: 36,767 (1.00%)
LNPI: -12.63 (from -14.34 in 2008, a Democratic trend of 1.71)

South Florida:
Barack Obama (D): 2,595,501 (54.20%)
Mitt Romney (R): 2,157,008 (45.04%)
Others: 36,115 (0.75%)
LNPI: +6.43 (from +3.22 in 2008, a Democratic trend of 3.21)
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« Reply #145 on: November 15, 2012, 10:14:55 am »
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*sigh*  I'd be rushing to get out of downstate even faster if this was the case.
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« Reply #146 on: December 25, 2012, 06:01:41 pm »
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Oh God I really must finish this! I hate myself for abandoning this project. Sad

I promise I'll do my best to restart this, but University starts again on Jan 19 and I fear the time is too short for me to work out all I want to do.

Among other things, I'm dissatisfied with my Oregon/Washington divide, and I also would like to review a few States like Florida and Texas. And I don't like how the Dakotas and Nebraska are all merged together. There should be a better way to work all this out. Any advise on this domain is very welcome. Smiley
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« Reply #147 on: December 27, 2012, 04:26:53 pm »
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Hi, if its the counties is your trouble, maybe you should just mush and mash the county lines a bit to make huge counties. Like OTL Southeast California, and western Texas! Also DO COUNTINUE Tongue
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« Reply #148 on: September 19, 2013, 06:55:45 pm »
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« Reply #149 on: July 23, 2014, 02:02:26 pm »
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Well, geez guys, it's been over 4 years since I last updated this! Well, if there is someone who hasn't lost patience yet, I'm glad to announce that this is back! Cheesy I'm determined to cover all the new States that I've created, and I don't know how much time that's gonna take, but we'll get there.

And what's more, I've now found a system that will allow me to cover results for past elections far more easily than I ever could have hoped. So, we're gonna see how these States voted from 1960 to 2012 in each Presidential election, and I'll also try to guess other stuff like congressional or local politics.

So, to cover all this, the best way to go is to start over. Let's begin with...

New England

As I've already said, NE is a merger of the 3 States in the country's northwestern corner (VT, NH and ME). Nowadays, with Vermont being an overwhelmingly democratic State and New Hampshire a tilt-D swing State, the end result ends up very similar to Maine. New England, thus, is a State where Democrats win by a margin roughly 10 percentage points above the national one.

NE Presidential election results, 1960-2012:


NE's political evolution doesn't deserve much commentary, since it reflects the already well-known story of the region. Traditionally a solid Republican State, it experienced a democratic realignment that began with LBJ's 1964 landslide, came to fruition with Clinton's 1992 victory and still showed signs of consolidation in the first decade of the 21st century. Interestingly, Humphrey actually prevailed there in 1968 despite losing both VT and NH, thanks to his excellent performance in Maine (which can be attributed to Ed Muskie's favorite son status). Reagan held extremely solid margins there, and Dubya came surprisingly close in 2000, but since then the gap between the two parties has widened so significantly that the State probably wouldn't be competitive anytime soon. Also to note, third parties generally tend to do well (although not nearly as well as in RL Maine), with Perot garnering over a quarter of the vote in 1992.

Comparison between the net PVI of the old and new States:


Until the 1980s, Maine was actually the most Democratic of the 3 States, and thus NE's margin generally being drawn down by NH and VT. Starting in the 1980s however, the current hierarchy began to consolidate, with NH the most Republican State, VT the most Democratic one, and ME in between. Republican candidates did extremely well in NH in the 1980s, allowing the new State to remain solidly into the Republican column until 1992. Since then however, with NH becoming a swing State and Vermont giving Dems increasingly lopsided victories, the State's margin has moved up, to the point that it is now basically identical to Maine's.
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