Building The City

[Platypus]

Can I propose a slight edit to IX? I'd like it to be my area of residence and to be a bit more focussed on docks and dockworkers. I'd suggest it to be the center f the Irish and Catholic presence in Stovesby, and dominated by a combination of the church and the G&TWU. There are certainly protestants in town, though, but no or very few immigrants.

I'd also suggest a name change if possible to East Stovesby, in keeping with the idea of it being built rapidly in the 1860s or so as the port grew and the area was developed as part of the expanision of Stovesby. I think it's important that the area Was built as an outlier that then just got accidentally surrounded by circumstance, but is still not culturally integrated with the rest of the city.

East Stovesby (or Port Stovesby or Newtown or whatever) would basically be somewhere that largely self-regulated; underfunded by the council with the difference largely made up by the church, it votes for the MSP but mainly because the MSP candidates are always Catholic in the area, and the other parties never nominate Catholics at all. I don't think reliion should play a major role in the game (certainly it should be a Protestant city) but the dockworkers should have a historical link to Ireland and a still firm link to the Catholic church.

It's 3:30am here so this might not be fully fleshed out, but let me know what you think.

[Platypus]

Idea for a little bit more character within areas: suburbs.

Ta-Da! The Northwest. Obviously this isn't canon but I thought it might be a good idea. Also, the suburbs can change names if you don't like them. I tried to choose already listed names where possible.



XX: Willow Tree (top)
Y: Deepchurch
W: Sutton Hill
B: Willow Tree
P: Manningtree
R: Oldbridge
G: Four Princes

XIII: Saint Michael (2nd to top)
Y: Almawood
W: Old Saint Michael
B: La Côte
P: East Saint Michael
R: Aviation City
G: Walsh Acres

VII: Culzeansands (lower west)
Y: Culzeansands
W: Trondwick
B: Kirklachlan
P: St. Andrew's
R: Muckle Ferry
G: Zelburgh

VIII: St Alban and Sunnybrae (Central)
Y: Murrumburgh
W: Chadstone
B: Sunnybrae
P: Sunnybrae Fields
R: St Alban
G: St Alban South

VI: North Liberty (southeast)
Y: Soult
W: Shepp's Hills
B:  Francistown
P: North Liberty
R: North Liberty Junction
G: Dromesby St. George's

[Platypus]

Central:




I: Central (southwest)
Y: Oldhaven
W: Stovesby Heath
B: Royal Square
P: Cathedral Park
R: Old Stovesby
G: The City

II: Low Town (northwest)
Y: Liardet
W: Francismouth
B: Point Sentinel
P: Low Town
R: Creagh's Rise
G: Creagh's Marsh

III: Chamberlain (central)
Y: Stovesby University
W: Envoy's Grange
B: Chamberlain
P: North Chamberlain
R: South Chamberlain
G: Oxbridge Village

IV: St. Jude's (southeast)
Y: St. Jude's Quay
W: Wallside
B: Gallowfield
P: Gallowfield West
R: St. Jude's
G: Farrer's Cliff

V: Shaddyside (northeast)
Y: Gardendale
W: Old Shaddyside
B: Shaddyside Parks
P: High Shaddyside
R: Shaddy Willows
G: Lower Shaddyside

[Platypus]

I listed the various areas of St. Michael in my post on that:

Stovesby-Saint Michael Airport Lands, La Côte, Old Saint Michael (both coastal), Stovesby West, Walsh Acres (inland areas)

OK, I'll change McCutcheon's Inlet to La Côte; Saint Michael Town to Old Saint Michael and Gardendale to Walsh Acres. Where would Stovesby West fit in? Maybe a Stovesby North could be possible? Also I really like the name Aviation city but I'll change it if you want

Also, some of these are too big or too small to be suburbs, so maybe these are precincts or some other type of collection zone? Certainly I think we need to have something to recognise distinctions below the Ward level, but I don't know if this is perfect. I'll finish them off anyway.

[Platypus]

Northeast:



XIV: Frodsby (southwest)
Y: Frodsby South
W: Frodsby
B: Wedlock South
P: Frodsby East
R: Frodsby West
G: Wedlock North

XVIII: Upper Stovesby (north)
Y: Upfield
W: Thornburgh
B: West Starnton
P: New North Stovesby
R: Starnton
G: Churchill Gardens

XVI: Eastridge (southeast)
Y: Eastridge Meadows
W: Dundas
B: Eastridge Springs
P: Dundas Estate
R: Eastridge Heights
G: Darlingdale

[Platypus]

Inner East:



X: Stovesby Island (south)
Y: Reum's Canal
W: Leip Quay
B: Healestown
P: West Stovesby Island
R: East Stovesby Island
G: Southern Sandplains

IX: Isaacstown (west)
Y: Connaght Town
W: North Isaacstown
B: New Port
P: Reumtown
R: East Stovesby
G: Isaacstown

XI: Sanker (east)
Y: Sanker Village
W: Milfage
B: North Sanker
P: East Sanker
R: West Sanker
G: Berrigan

XII: Gawther (north)
Y: Gwydir
W: Gawther
B: Parkville
P: Gawther Acres
R: Millheath Estate
G: Roeville

[Platypus]

Outer East
XXII: Ardthorpe
Y: Styre Ponds
W: Ardthorpe Colliery and Pity Us
B: Ardthorpe
P: Donsett
R: Low Ardthorpe Riverside
G: Henderson Estate

XVII: Shovington
Y: Daffodil Dale Estate
W: North Shovington
B: Rosette Estate
P: Shovington Industrial Estate
R: Shovington
G: New Shovington

XXI: Hellsby
Y: Collierstown
W: Summerdell
B: Phillipton
P: Lake Elizabeth
R: Willows Estate
G: Hellsbyton

XIX: Hellsby Wood
Y: McCutcheon's Inlet
W: Lodwick
B: Farthing
P: Hellsby Wood
R: South Hellsbyton
G: Blighville

XV: Outer Docks and Industrial Estates
Y: Webber Dock
W: Petroleum City
B: Cardinia
P: Shallowmarsh
R: Lewes Spit
G: Lewes River

(actual divisions in map below)

CITY-WIDE MAP OF SPECIFIC LOCALITIES (proposed)

[Platypus]

OK, I'll make the changes now. 'Without' becomes Farrer's Cliff or Bellville?

[Platypus]

I also snuck a modern term into 1950s Britain. Lovely.

[Platypus]

OK, I'll make the changes now. 'Without' becomes Farrer's Cliff or Bellville?

First one sounds more like the sort of place we're dealing with.

I also snuck a modern term into 1950s Britain. Lovely.

lol

District and colour?

I can't complain as there are some seriously nasty jokes in some of the NPC names...

White Sanker.

[Platypus]

New ward name suggestions (eliminating shared names where possible):

Willow Tree
Saint Michael ( I prefer St., but whatever is used should be consistent and Hash wants Saint)
Culzeansands
St. Andrews
Greater St. Alban
Soult
North Liberty

NE:
Frodsby
[Upfield?] Starnton (I'd suggest a complete renaming from Upper Stovesby; it's too distant from the centre)
Eastridge

C:
St. John's (I presume you already had a reason for this, otherwise Stovesby Town)
Creaghs
Low Town
Chamberlain
University
Wallside Gallowfield
St. Jude's
Gardendale
Shaddyside
High Willows

IE:
Isaacstown
East Stovesby and Island OR Reum
Gawther
Sanker
(this area could do with another ward, but no one area could justify it. Guess that's where the gameplay comes in...)

OE:
Shovington and Hellsby
Ardthorpe
Donsett Henderson
Lewes (I'd actually combine the Island with Lewes and have separate wards for Isaactown/Isaactown North/the northern part of New Port (loosely, the port itself) and then East Stovesby/Connaght Town/Reumtown and the southern (actually populated) part of New Port; I know the Island ward would be underpopulated but its better than overpopulating the Isaacstown area wards)

.......of course, that was an extreme avoidance and based on a little bit of prejudice

[Platypus]

Hehe, I was about 95% sure it was South Yarra.

Can you spot the other couple of little Australianisms? I made the switch, btw.

[Platypus]

That would've been too obvious

Phillipton and Lake Elizabeth are of course in honour of their highnesses, and not Melbourne-specific.

Cardinia is on the eastern outskirts of Melbourne, and one of the major water reservoirs is there (and in this game, it's where the also essential power station is)

Webber Dock is named after the main large-ship dock at the Port of Melbourne, Webb Dock.

Blighville wasn't particularly intentional.

Almawood is a personal one; I went to St. Michael's for two years, and it's on Alma road also near Crimea St, Redan St, Sebastopol St...you get the idea)

You got Murrumburgh and Chadstone.

Liardet's Beach was the second name for Sandridge, which eventually became Port Melbourne. The first name was Wilbraham's Landing, and I kind of wish we'd kept it.

You missed Thornburgh (Thornbury), got Upfield, and missed Dundas (although that one is hard, it's a now-defunct name for the northern part of Albert Park, although there's still a Dundas Pl.). No excuse for missing Parkville though, and I thought Roeville (Rowville in Melbourne) would've been quite clear too .

Healestown is stolen from Healesville, New Port is kinda sorta stolen from Newport. While not stolen from Melbourne, Gwydir should be familiar to you, and Berrigan is a town in NSW (and also a nearby street here in Canberra).

Of course, if people don't like the names, they can ask me to change them or reject my divisions of the divisions altogether. But I like that it has a pepperng of the new world without anything obviously out of place

[Platypus]

Should I rename Lower Shaddyside (Shadd. Green) as Fretchitstown?

[Platypus]

(IC)

I don't see the need to expand into perfectly well-functioning communities to our north when we still have so much improvement to do within Stovesby. The only areas I would support incorporating would be those to our east, which are already economically and culturally linked to their fellow mining areas around Ardthorpe.

[Platypus]

(IC)

As with all of his party brethren, Councillor Pitman supports a divisive policy designed to disenfranchise those who do not support his party. Clearly he is making a brazen attempt to improve his party's fortunes by suggesting such indivisible parts of our city as Ardthorpe or the new Wharfs should be thrown out.

Time and again, the people of Stovesby have rejected the party of division just as they reject this plan. Shame, Councillor Pitman, shame!

[Platypus]

(IC)

Oh that is rich, Councillor Pitman! Only a moment ago you were advocating the expulsion of our eastern districts for your own political ends, and now you say that it is 'vitally important' that we expand to our north!

Public transport in Stovesby is focussed primarily on those areas where the majority of the population can't afford to do as your wealthy neighbours do, and drive into work. If your party had their way, nobody would ever leave Connaght Town of Low Town. Time and again, The MCP divides for political gain, claims outrage for political gain, and hopes to implement inequitable policies for the gain of their voters only. Once again, shame on you Councillor! Do you not know common decency!?

[Platypus]

(IC)

*smirks*