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« on: September 23, 2009, 03:48:59 am »
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(Please have a look to the last posts of the 2 previous topics, as I've updated, in a sort of mini-TL, the way in which the polls took place in 1969 and 1974)

Jean-Louis Borloo (<-> Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, leader of the more liberal and moderate wing of the right, with a reformist and "modern" image and who is at the moment the only big politician from the right who isn't a Gaullist)

Michel Barnier (<-> Jacques Chaban-Delmas, an important man of the  Gaullist movement a few years ago, from the social wing of the Gaullist movement, with a moderate stance in many fields and some appeal up to the left)

Martine Aubry (<-> François Mitterrand, not-really-good-in-the-medias (at the time!) leader of the Socialist party, with a "traditional" positioning and which, under his/her leadership, isn't at all a social democratic party)

Jean Royer (<-> Philippe de Villiers, leader of a traditional moral and conservative right, seen by some opponents as a ridiculous man, quickly sidelined in his own camp)

Nicolas Hulot (<-> René Dumont, Green candidate who isn't inside a party, who is quite well viewed in the medias and who has predicted many horrible environmental trends in the future)

Carl Lang (<-> Jean-Marie Le Pen, leader of a very small (at the time) extreme-right party)

Robert Barcia (<-> Arlette Laguiller, unknown leader of the "purest" Trotskyite party)

Jean-Marie Bockel (<-> Emile Muller, leader of a social democratic party that turned centre-right after many disappointments and sidelining in the left)

Yves Salesse (<-> Alain Krivine, one leader of the intellectual extreme-left of the time)

Claude Allègre (<-> Bertrand Renouvin.... well... I needed a man who isn't where you think he is: he sould be on the right (left) and he is on the left (right); a man who cannot be classified easily; a man who supports the main candidate of the other wing: Mitterrand/Sarkozy; a man who is viewed as an outsider)

Jean-Marc Governatori (<-> Jean-Claude Sebag, unknown figure from a very tiny "reformist" and European federalist party)

Franck Biancheri (<-> Guy Héraud, unknown figure from a very tiny European federalist party)

Sorry for my very weak Allègre-Renouvin pair... But I can't do better (unless you've got other ideas...).

Sorry for comparing this Hulot with Dumont, but again, I'm trying to pick the (wo)men who have the same political and "tactical" positioning.

Sorry to Hashemite for my Royer equivalent... But it's difficult to do otherwise.

As for Governatori and Biancheri, they may be switched between Héraud and Sebag: I must acknowkedge it's not easy for me to make a difference between those 2 1974 candidates.... But I think the 2 are fine picks, really.
(Governatori, Biancheri and, of course, Salesse and Barcia are REAL names... I must say it because some of you may not be sure... Wink)
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2009, 03:50:19 am »
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To choose between those 12 candidates, you have 12 votes, that you must cast along this formula: 7 - 3 - 1 - 1

Vote is open in the first round !
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2009, 03:50:56 am »
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7 votes for Barnier
3 votes for Borloo
1 vote for Bockel
1 vote for Hulot
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2009, 11:26:51 am »
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7 for Hulot
3 for Borloo
1 for Aubry
1 for Barnier


Very good choice for candidates. Wink
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2009, 05:59:56 pm »
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7 for Hulot
3 for Borloo
1 for Aubry
1 for Barnier


Very good choice for candidates. Wink

Thanks and fine to see that you use all the "freedom" my system gives to us.
My vote is more "classic". But you'll see in one or two other elections that I will have some different choics also, even if less than yours in this "à la 1974" election.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2009, 06:03:58 pm »
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7 for Bockel
3 for Borloo
1 for Barnier
1 for Hulot
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2009, 07:23:28 pm »
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7 for Salesse
3 for Barcia
1 for Aubry
1 for Hulot
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2009, 07:03:56 am »
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All the precincts haven't reported, but here are some partial results:

Hulot 13
Aubry 9
Barnier 9
Bockel 9
Borloo 9
Salesse 7
Barcia 3
Allègre 1

Well, well, well, we need more voters...
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2009, 08:27:15 am »
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Well, after a PM invitation from Fabien to vote, I reconsidered the thing, after all this is just a choice of present candidates, the past is just here to make a criteria of choosing the candidates, the point is not to remake the past elections with us in the present trying to see who we would have voted for by using present candidates that would match the best possible with the past ones (damn, my English really leads me to make complicated sentences sometimes...).

Well, in that sens, just a choice between present candidates, I can vote!

Well, first I've to say that for me this list is an awful stuff for the choice, and a possibility of Hulot for president is freaking! (actually).

So, well, if I've to choose in this list I'll go for:

Biancheri 7
Allègre 3
Aubry 1
Borloo 1
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14/01/2011: Tunisia!!
11/02/2011: Egypt!
20/10/2011: Libya
02/09/2013: Abandon of Syria...
...and of, well, 'all of that'...

Money became totally unfair.
Money became totally senseless.
Let's make Money totally useless...

??/??/20??: EU UU!!

Maybe a little update:

Religion Tradition is people's opium...
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2009, 11:30:00 am »
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7 for Hulot
3 for Borloo
1 for Aubry
1 for Barnier


Very good choice for candidates. Wink

Thanks and fine to see that you use all the "freedom" my system gives to us.
My vote is more "classic". But you'll see in one or two other elections that I will have some different choics also, even if less than yours in this "à la 1974" election.

Well, this time I really couldn't go for Aubry, seeing how utterly dull and inefficient she is today. Borloo and Barnier are some of the better (well, the less worse Tongue) people from the majority... So that I jumped at the chance to be more "bipartisan". Wink
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2009, 02:27:06 pm »
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7 allegre
3 royer
1 barnier
1 borloo
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against Aubry, Sarkozy will win. Aubry is a very bad candidate for prime time : no charisma, no sympathy, muslim connection, stupid ideas,... and sarkozy is a good candidate...

but against hollande, sarkozy will lose."

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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2009, 02:40:47 pm »
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7 allegre
3 royer

Congratulations, you picked the two most awful.
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2009, 03:34:50 pm »
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7 allegre
3 royer

Congratulations, you picked the two most awful.

Considering it's Umengus, I'm surprised he didn't give all his votes to Carl Lang and de Villiers.
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2009, 03:44:22 pm »
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7 votes for Barnier
3 votes for Borloo
1 vote for Bockel
1 vote for Hulot
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2009, 05:04:58 pm »
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Mes amis,

Je me permets une petite incise en français "dans le texte", afin de ne froisser personne.
Etant donné la nécessité de départager, j'ai demandé à Benoît -qui a très gentiment accepté- de se joindre à nous, au moins momentanément.

Mais j'ai également sollicité le précédent intervenant, croyant en fait en solliciter un autre (je ne donne pas les noms, vous reconnaîtrez), Capverdien installé en Belgique et vrai francophone, comme vous l'aurez remarqué...
La gaffe...!! Sad

Avec une nouvelle égalité à la suite du vote de Benoît, j'ai sollicité Umengus et MaxQue, pour les mêmes raisons et quelles que soient leurs orientations.
Je vais attendre un peu de voir si MaxQue et notre Capverdien de Belgique votent.
Je n'aurai pas de raison de ne pas compter leur vote, de même que pour Umengus, qui a voté comme bon lui semblait.

En revanche, rassurez-vous, je ne compterai pas notre précédent intervenant, qui a simplement recopié mon propre vote.

Comme quoi, mon système n'est pas encore assez raffiné pour éviter les égalités... Wink
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2009, 05:21:54 pm »
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Je décrète officiellement que aucune des réponses sur cette page soit en anglais! Ici on parle français!
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2009, 05:50:43 pm »
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Pouquoi ? Je peux parler français seulement un peu. Sad
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2009, 11:35:12 am »
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Comme quoi, mon système n'est pas encore assez raffiné pour éviter les égalités... Wink

Pourtant je vois que tu as fait tout ton possible. Ce système est très élaboré. Wink


Je décrète officiellement que aucune des réponses sur cette page soit en anglais! Ici on parle français!

Vive la France ! Grin
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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2009, 06:24:24 pm »
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OK, I've thought about a military coup in order to solve all this mess...
But I'm now forced to add some new rules.

Nicolas Hulot is already in the second round (13 votes).

Aubry (10), Barnier (9), Bockel (9), Salesse (7), Biancheri (7), Barcia (4), Villiers (3), Governatori (0) are eliminated.

Now, you cast just one vote to decide who will make it to the run-off against Hulot:
Jean-Louis Borloo or Claude Allègre (tie with 11 votes for each of them).

Please vote !
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2009, 06:25:17 pm »
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One vote to push Jean-Louis Borloo to the second round !
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2009, 06:27:26 pm »
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Jean-Louis Borloo!

Certainly not this scenario's version of the crazy monarchist and ultra-boring Renouvin!
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2009, 07:04:03 pm »
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Well, hmm, that's a tie for me, well, Allègre is more interesting but Borloo is a better politician...

F**k, I'll go for Borloo (more sane people to manage some power) hoping he would take in count the importance of Allègre and give him some responsibilities.
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Let's make Money totally useless...

??/??/20??: EU UU!!

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Religion Tradition is people's opium...
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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2009, 01:53:20 am »
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Borloo wholeheartedly.
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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2009, 12:53:30 pm »
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Allègre. Smiley

Just kidding. Borloo.
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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2009, 04:36:13 pm »
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FRENCH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION "à la 1974"
Official results of the first round

With all the precincts now reporting and after a ballot recounting, validated by the Constitutional Council, Jean-Louis Borloo will be opposed to Nicolas Hulot in the 2nd round ! Envionrmental debates in sight !

85 votes
Nicolas Hulot 13 votes (15.3%)
Jean-Louis Borloo 12 votes (14.1%)

Claude Allègre 11 votes (12.9%)
Martine Aubry 10 votes (11.8%)
Michel Barnier 9 votes (10.6%)
Jean-Marie Bockel 9 votes (10.6%)
Yves Salesse 7 votes (8.2%)
Franck Biancheri 7 votes (8.2%)
Robert Barcia 4 votes (4.7%)
Philippe de Villiers 3 votes (3.5%)
Jean-Marc Governatori 0 vote (0.0%)

Second round

2 candidates:

Jean-Louis Borloo (<-> Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, leader of the more liberal and moderate wing of the right, with a reformist and "modern" image and who is at the moment the only big politician from the right who isn't a Gaullist)

Michel Barnier (<-> Jacques Chaban-Delmas, an important man of the  Gaullist movement a few years ago, from the social wing of the Gaullist movement, with a moderate stance in many fields and some appeal up to the left)

Martine Aubry (<-> François Mitterrand, not-really-good-in-the-medias (at the time!) leader of the Socialist party, with a "traditional" positioning and which, under his/her leadership, isn't at all a social democratic party)

Jean Royer (<-> Philippe de Villiers, leader of a traditional moral and conservative right, seen by some opponents as a ridiculous man, quickly sidelined in his own camp)

Nicolas Hulot (<-> René Dumont, Green candidate who isn't inside a party, who is quite well viewed in the medias and who has predicted many horrible environmental trends in the future)

Carl Lang (<-> Jean-Marie Le Pen, leader of a very small (at the time) extreme-right party)

Robert Barcia (<-> Arlette Laguiller, unknown leader of the "purest" Trotskyite party)

Jean-Marie Bockel (<-> Emile Muller, leader of a social democratic party that turned centre-right after many disappointments and sidelining in the left)

Yves Salesse (<-> Alain Krivine, one leader of the intellectual extreme-left of the time)

Claude Allègre (<-> Bertrand Renouvin.... well... I needed a man who isn't where you think he is: he sould be on the right (left) and he is on the left (right); a man who cannot be classified easily; a man who supports the main candidate of the other wing: Mitterrand/Sarkozy; a man who is viewed as an outsider)

Jean-Marc Governatori (<-> Jean-Claude Sebag, unknown figure from a very tiny "reformist" and European federalist party)

Franck Biancheri (<-> Guy Héraud, unknown figure from a very tiny European federalist party)

After this very widespread vote in the first round, you have 2 votes in the second round, that you may cast either 2-0 or 1-1.
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