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Re: German Election Results Thread
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Reply #25 on:
September 27, 2009, 11:15:47 am »
Quote from: Senator Franzl on September 27, 2009, 11:13:39 am
Quote from: rob in cal on September 27, 2009, 11:12:11 am
Ok, stupid question from the US, did the Pirates run as a left leaning party? If so, than combined with Greens, Linke and SPD that would be really close to CDU/FDP vote total. Once again the threshold law rears it head.
doesn't matter, they don't get any seats without 5% of the vote.
Read the last sentence.
Is it odd that I can't find this thread from the board page?
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:16:20 am »
Let's hold our horses until actual votes have been counted. I seem to recall that in the last couple German election, the exit poll projections were saying it would be a big night for the CDU/FDP and then when the votes were counted that advantage melted away.
Incidentally, it looks like FDP gained a lot of ground today. What is the explanation for that? Is it just reaping the benefit of being in opposition to a grand coalition or has there been some sudden growth in yearning for deregulation and tax cuts in Germany (ie: all the policies that have led the world economy down the garden path esp. in the US)
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:16:34 am »
Quote from: Wyatt Chеsney on September 27, 2009, 11:15:47 am
Quote from: Senator Franzl on September 27, 2009, 11:13:39 am
Quote from: rob in cal on September 27, 2009, 11:12:11 am
Ok, stupid question from the US, did the Pirates run as a left leaning party? If so, than combined with Greens, Linke and SPD that would be really close to CDU/FDP vote total. Once again the threshold law rears it head.
doesn't matter, they don't get any seats without 5% of the vote.
Read the last sentence.
Is it odd that I can't find this thread from the board page?
It's been stickied.
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:17:06 am »
Quote from: DL on September 27, 2009, 11:16:20 am
Incidentally, it looks like FDP gained a lot of ground today. What is the explanation for that? Is it just reaping the benefit of being in opposition to a grand coalition or has there been some sudden growth in yearning for deregulation and tax cuts in Germany (ie: all the policies that have led the world economy down the garden path esp. in the US)
Most likely economically right-wing CDU voters.
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:17:31 am »
Quote from: DL on September 27, 2009, 11:16:20 am
Let's hold our horses until actual votes have been counted. I seem to recall that in the last couple German election, the exit poll projections were saying it would be a big night for the CDU/FDP and then when the votes were counted that advantage melted away.
Incidentally, it looks like FDP gained a lot of ground today. What is the explanation for that? Is it just reaping the benefit of being in opposition to a grand coalition or has there been some sudden growth in yearning for deregulation and tax cuts in Germany (ie: all the policies that have led the world economy down the garden path esp. in the US)
Not the Exit Polls. These were pre-election polls ...
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:18:16 am »
ARD Projection, already based on a couple results.
33.4 - 22.7 - 14.8 - 12.5 - 10.6
Marginally
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September 27, 2009, 11:19:55 am »
I'm talking about exit polls. Remember how Stoiber declared himself the winner of the election based on exit polls and then as the votes were counted he had to withdraw his declaration?
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Quote from: DL on September 27, 2009, 11:19:55 am
I'm talking about exit polls. Remember how Stoiber declared himself the winner of the election based on exit polls and then as the votes were counted he had to withdraw his declaration?
Was closer than now, though. And Stoiber's declaration was viewed as quite premature by all and sundry at the time.
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:21:06 am »
Awsome results.
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:22:11 am »
I note that the CSU has lost about one percentage point - one in seven voters - while the CDU is approximately stable.
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September 27, 2009, 11:24:46 am »
I can't wait until real results flow in.
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:24:53 am »
Quote from: Electric Monk on September 27, 2009, 11:22:11 am
I note that the CSU has lost about one percentage point - one in seven voters - while the CDU is approximately stable.
Bavaria Exit Poll:
CSU: 41% (-8%)
SPD: 16.5% (-9%)
FDP: 15.5% (+6%)
Greens: 11.5% (+3.5%)
Left: 6.5% (+3%)
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:25:55 am »
Quote from: Tender Branson on September 27, 2009, 11:24:53 am
Quote from: Electric Monk on September 27, 2009, 11:22:11 am
I note that the CSU has lost about one percentage point - one in seven voters - while the CDU is approximately stable.
Bavaria Exit Poll:
CSU: 41%
SPD: 16.5%
FDP: 15.5%
Greens: 11.5%
Left: 6.5%
Would be hilarious if the FDP surpassed the SPD.
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:26:10 am »
I guess these results are best for everyone.
Quote from: This is the North - where we do what we want! on September 27, 2009, 11:16:34 am
Quote from: Wyatt Chеsney on September 27, 2009, 11:15:47 am
Quote from: Senator Franzl on September 27, 2009, 11:13:39 am
Quote from: rob in cal on September 27, 2009, 11:12:11 am
Ok, stupid question from the US, did the Pirates run as a left leaning party? If so, than combined with Greens, Linke and SPD that would be really close to CDU/FDP vote total. Once again the threshold law rears it head.
doesn't matter, they don't get any seats without 5% of the vote.
Read the last sentence.
Is it odd that I can't find this thread from the board page?
It's been stickied.
Ah, that would explain it.
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:28:59 am »
If things stay as they are and unless I'm misreading summet - worst SPD result since 1932 (if you don't count 1933 as entirely legit), worst CDU-CSU result since 1949.
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September 27, 2009, 11:29:26 am »
What happened to the DVU in Brandenburg?
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:31:05 am »
NRW (most populous state):
CDU: 33.0%
SPD: 27.5%
FDP: 15.0%
Greens: 11.0%
Left: 9.0%
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September 27, 2009, 11:31:29 am »
Unemployed voters:
Left 26
SPD 22
CDU/CSU 21
FDP 10
Greens 9
other 12
(Sampling error alert)
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Quote from: Electric Monk on September 27, 2009, 11:31:29 am
Unemployed voters:
Left 26
SPD 22
CDU/CSU 21
FDP 10
Greens 9
other 12
(Sampling error alert)
Now, a east-west breakdown on that would be fun.
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Quote from: Minister of Free Time Hashemite on September 27, 2009, 11:29:26 am
What happened to the DVU in Brandenburg?
Become a totally disorganized joke. And had the NPD run against it as a result.
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Quote from: Minister of Free Time Hashemite on September 27, 2009, 11:32:05 am
Now, a east-west breakdown on that would be fun.
ARD-prognosis West-Germany - East-Germany
All voters, not only the unemployed ones.
CDU/CSU 34,5 - 29,0
SPD 23,5 - 18,0
FDP 16,0 - 11,0
Linke 9,0 - 27,5
Grüne 11,5 - 8,5
Pirate 2,0 - 2,0
NPD ?? - 3,0
Other 4,0 - 1,0 (in West incl NPD, in East without)
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September 27, 2009, 11:39:41 am »
Best FDP result ever! Rock on Guido!
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Re: German Election Results Thread
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September 27, 2009, 11:42:43 am »
How long 'till we get proper results?
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September 27, 2009, 11:43:22 am »
Exit poll found that, in a straight choice, 46% wanted a Grand Coalition and only 40% CDU/CSU-FDP.
Currrent ARD "score" (30 minutes ago)
CDU 33.4
SPD 22.7
FDP 14.8
Linke 12.5
Greens 10.6
Pirates 2.1
Others 3.9
As for proper results, give it an hour or two. Hang on...
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