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« Reply #5500 on: February 03, 2012, 10:50:52 PM »

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Why this one again?..

Motion to amend by removing Section 4.

Motion to amend by removing Section 5.

Actually, I'm okay with 5 and 4.  I just don't like 12

So make a motion to remove the section.  FTR, I won't support your motion.
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« Reply #5501 on: February 03, 2012, 10:58:15 PM »

5 seems creepy but what is wrong with 4?
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« Reply #5502 on: February 03, 2012, 11:08:06 PM »


5 is creepy, and 4 just happens to be something I'm on the fence about.  I've just always been taught that it's not a good habit to share, or improperly dispose of razor blades.  It's a sanitation/viral thing, of course.  Just something I thought we should bother discussing. 
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« Reply #5503 on: February 03, 2012, 11:34:32 PM »


5 is creepy, and 4 just happens to be something I'm on the fence about.  I've just always been taught that it's not a good habit to share, or improperly dispose of razor blades.  It's a sanitation/viral thing, of course.  Just something I thought we should bother discussing. 

So you've been taught.  Let the dopes and/or the nasty skanky people do it and get diseases.  Then natural selection work its magic Wink.  Btw, I'm 70% serious.
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« Reply #5504 on: February 03, 2012, 11:40:19 PM »

Also, I find it odd that the gentleman from New York is against the provision talking about RAZOR BLADES but is fine with the idea of ATTACKING THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION in the bill's twelfth provision.  No offense, but really?!  Wink
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« Reply #5505 on: February 03, 2012, 11:50:14 PM »

Also, I find it odd that the gentleman from New York is against the provision talking about RAZOR BLADES but is fine with the idea of ATTACKING THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION in the bill's twelfth provision.  No offense, but really?!  Wink

So, by prohibiting oh say, drinking on the sabbath is ATTACKING THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION?  These people are free to uphold this practice in their personal life's, but I will not impose the rule of one religion on one who believes in another, or none at all for that matter.  IIRC this idea is called..Freedom of Religion?  Yeah, that's it..  Your rhetoric is amusing, but ineffective.
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« Reply #5506 on: February 04, 2012, 04:17:13 AM »

The far right is more frightening than amusing.
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« Reply #5507 on: February 04, 2012, 03:00:28 PM »

Also, I find it odd that the gentleman from New York is against the provision talking about RAZOR BLADES but is fine with the idea of ATTACKING THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION in the bill's twelfth provision.  No offense, but really?!  Wink

So, by prohibiting oh say, drinking on the sabbath is ATTACKING THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION?  These people are free to uphold this practice in their personal life's, but I will not impose the rule of one religion on one who believes in another, or none at all for that matter.  IIRC this idea is called..Freedom of Religion?  Yeah, that's it..  Your rhetoric is amusing, but ineffective.

So you can't allow a Jewish restaurant owner to refuse to serve pork?  Or alcohol?  That's what's next.
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« Reply #5508 on: February 04, 2012, 03:01:07 PM »

The far right is more frightening than amusing.

It's not far right if you're defending individual municipalities to pass their own laws.
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« Reply #5509 on: February 05, 2012, 09:12:18 PM »

This Assembly is now in order.

I will accept the amendments as friendly.

Members will now cast their votes on passage of the legislation.  This will be a 24-hour vote.

The Anti-Prohibition & Blue Law Repeal Act

A BILL to repeal and prohibit Northeastern laws that are found to be religiously motivated or otherwise unnecessary

1.) All existing laws which prohibit the consumption or sale of beer, wine, and spirits at neighborhood grocery and package stores on any day of the week are hereby repealed.

2.) All existing laws which prohibit gambling on any day of the week are hereby repealed.

3.) Town records may hereby be kept where liquor is sold.

4.) Brothels are hereby legal in the Northeast.

5.) The sale of fireworks is hereby permitted to all Northeast residents above the age of seventeen.

6.) Hunting licenses and fishing licenses are no longer necessary to hunt or fish on one's own private property.

7.) On no day of any week are hunting or fishing prohibited activities.

8.) Players of professional sports shall not have to obtain a license to play on Sundays.

9.) "R"-rated movies are hereby allowed to be shown in drive-in theaters.

10.) The Northeast government may not prohibit activities on a given day of the week for religious reasons.
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« Reply #5510 on: February 05, 2012, 09:13:42 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #5511 on: February 05, 2012, 09:15:52 PM »

Aye.

And on that note I'd just like to say, this bill does not attack freedom of religion at all; it tells localities that they cannot regulate morality or impose religious dogma on others.
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« Reply #5512 on: February 05, 2012, 10:46:27 PM »

Nay.

I agree wholeheartedly with the content of this bill, but due to my strong decentralist views I do not believe in imposing it on municipalities.  I don't see how it would be imposed on municipalities based on the wording, but if Scott is insisting it does, I can't support it.
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« Reply #5513 on: February 05, 2012, 10:50:01 PM »

Also, I find it odd that the gentleman from New York is against the provision talking about RAZOR BLADES but is fine with the idea of ATTACKING THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION in the bill's twelfth provision.  No offense, but really?!  Wink

So, by prohibiting oh say, drinking on the sabbath is ATTACKING THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION?  These people are free to uphold this practice in their personal life's, but I will not impose the rule of one religion on one who believes in another, or none at all for that matter.  IIRC this idea is called..Freedom of Religion?  Yeah, that's it..  Your rhetoric is amusing, but ineffective.

So you can't allow a Jewish restaurant owner to refuse to serve pork?  Or alcohol?  That's what's next.

Where in this bill does it say that?  Businesses can still sell what they want, but the government wouldn't be allowed to tell them they can't.
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« Reply #5514 on: February 06, 2012, 08:41:19 PM »

AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE

Though I'm unsure about point six.  Should've piped up during debate.
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« Reply #5515 on: February 06, 2012, 09:44:20 PM »

Voting time has expired.  The ayes are three, nays are one, abstentions are zero, and non-voting members are zero.  The bill is passed.

The Assembly will now consider the legislation introduced by the gentleman from Connecticut.  Debate will be for 48 hours.

The Food Labeling Act

A BILL to mandate that all food producers, retailers, and restaurants label their products with nutrition and ingredient facts

1.) 'Edible substances' shall be defined as any nourishing substance that is sold to be eaten or drunk.

2.) Food sellers, producers, retailers, and restaurants must label all edible substances and products.

3.) All food labels must contain the following information:
  • Calories
  • Total Fat
  • Saturated Fat
  • Trans Fat
  • Cholesterol
  • Sodium
  • Total Carbohydrates
  • Dietary Fiber
  • Sugar
  • Protein
  • Vitamin A
  • Vitamin C
  • Calcium
  • Iron
  • Ingredients

4.) All genetically modified products must contain a label identifying them as such.

5.) Aforementioned information may be placed on labels, wrappers, packaging, windows, and walls.

6.) If aforementioned information is printed on a label, it must be bold and no smaller than 10-point size.

7.) Food sellers which fail to comply with this law shall be fined $150,000 per offense7
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« Reply #5516 on: February 08, 2012, 07:56:45 PM »

Mr. Speaker, what happened to our respective taxation bills?
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« Reply #5517 on: February 08, 2012, 08:04:26 PM »

Producers?  Marketing managers would hate this idea, considering how horrible it would look with this information labeled next to every fruit and vegetable display.  It's all well and good to ask restaurants to offer this information if asked, and have already packaged foods to have this information, but come on..

I think it's safe to say I can eat an orange or banana and it won't make me exceed my "2000 a day calorie diet".  Hey, it may even be healthy for me. 

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« Reply #5518 on: February 08, 2012, 08:16:24 PM »

Coming soon:  Every lemonade stand gets a $150,000 fine!

(Or would it be multiple $150,000 fines, considering that they're simultaneously food producers and retailers?)
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« Reply #5519 on: February 08, 2012, 08:35:02 PM »

Coming soon:  Every lemonade stand gets a $150,000 fine!

(Or would it be multiple $150,000 fines, considering that they're simultaneously food producers and retailers?)

They shouldn't be selling lemonade anyway without proper paperwork and licensing granting them the title of "vendor".  I mean, who do these kids think they are?  Wink
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« Reply #5520 on: February 08, 2012, 09:37:54 PM »

Fine, I'll withdraw it then, since I don't see this passing.

The Assembly will now consider the legislation introduced by the gentleman from Connecticut.  Debate will be for 48 hours.

The Northeast Revenue Act of 2012

A BILL to implement a tax code into the 2012 budget

Section 1.) Corporate Tax rates shall be as follows

Corporate Taxes, Income
0%   $0 - $10,000
2%   $10,000 - $50,000
9%   $50,000 - $75,000
13%   $75,000 - $100,000
20%   $100,000 - $335,000
24%   $335,000 - $10,000,000
28%   $10,000,000 - $15,000,000
30%   $15,000,000 +

Section 2.) Income Tax rates shall be as follows

Income Taxes, Single Individual
0%   $0 - $9,500
9%   $9,501 - $35,000
15%   $35,001 - $80,000
19%   $80,001 - $170,000
23%   $170,001 - $367,700
25%   $367,701 - $1,000,000
28%   $1,000,001 - $2,500,000
30%   $2,500,001 +

Section 3.) All tax rates in this bill shall expire at the start of the next fiscal year.
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« Reply #5521 on: February 08, 2012, 10:49:56 PM »
« Edited: February 08, 2012, 10:54:12 PM by Northeast Speaker Scott »

Now, Imperial Speaker Yelnoc recommended that we remove the corporate taxes from this proposal so that we don't lose business to other regions.  I would be open to this.  However, I want our Reps to be mindful of the fact that the region has absolutely no revenue/tax system at all because the taxes that we used to have were repealed through various pieces of legislation by previous sessions over time- so every spending bill that's been passed since then hasn't even been getting paid for. (If this game were real, no one would even want us to borrow from them. Tongue)
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« Reply #5522 on: February 08, 2012, 11:02:49 PM »

Suppose we had a fictional country known as the "United States of America."

In that fictional country, the highest individual income tax rate levied by any state is 11%, on high-earners in Oregon and Hawaii.  And the highest corporate tax rate, on corporate income above $250,000, is 12% in Iowa.  I might remind you that these are all different states and atypically-high rates.  This proposal, to put it mildly, is batsh**t insane.
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« Reply #5523 on: February 08, 2012, 11:09:57 PM »

Suppose we had a fictional country known as the "United States of America."

In that fictional country, the highest individual income tax rate levied by any state is 11%, on high-earners in Oregon and Hawaii.  And the highest corporate tax rate, on corporate income above $250,000, is 12% in Iowa.  I might remind you that these are all different states and atypically-high rates.  This proposal, to put it mildly, is batsh**t insane.

Well, just because you've been so polite lately, I will be very willing to compromise and lower the top tax rate.  These rates were put out as a draft, originally, and the brackets would be discussed.
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« Reply #5524 on: February 08, 2012, 11:19:15 PM »

The Northeast Revenue Act of 2012

A BILL to implement a tax code into the 2012 budget

Section 1.) Corporate Tax rates shall be as follows

Corporate Taxes, Income
0%   $0 - $10,000
2%   $10,000 - $50,000
4%   $50,000 - $75,000
5%   $75,000 - $100,000
7%   $100,000 - $335,000
9%   $335,000 - $10,000,000
11%   $10,000,000 - $15,000,000
12%   $15,000,000 +

Section 2.) Income Tax rates shall be as follows

Income Taxes, Single Individual
0%   $0 - $9,500
2%   $9,501 - $35,000
3%   $35,001 - $80,000
5%   $80,001 - $170,000
6%   $170,001 - $367,700
7%   $367,701 - $1,000,000
9%   $1,000,001 - $2,500,000
11%   $2,500,001 +

Section 3.) All tax rates in this bill shall expire at the start of the next fiscal year.

Another possibility.
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