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They put it to a vote and they just kept lying
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« Reply #5075 on: November 26, 2011, 09:58:11 PM »


It seems I'm alone here. I'm not going to pursue a lost cause. It's a waste of my time as well as the Assembly's and the People's time. Let's get to more pressing matters.
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« Reply #5076 on: November 26, 2011, 09:59:59 PM »


It seems I'm alone here. I'm not going to pursue a lost cause. It's a waste of my time as well as the Assembly's and the People's time. Let's get to more pressing matters.

Ahem.. The People, or The People's please.
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They put it to a vote and they just kept lying
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« Reply #5077 on: November 26, 2011, 10:01:08 PM »


It seems I'm alone here. I'm not going to pursue a lost cause. It's a waste of my time as well as the Assembly's and the People's time. Let's get to more pressing matters.

Ahem.. The People, or The People's please.

The People's.

Sorry.
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« Reply #5078 on: November 26, 2011, 10:02:42 PM »


It seems I'm alone here. I'm not going to pursue a lost cause. It's a waste of my time as well as the Assembly's and the People's time. Let's get to more pressing matters.

Ahem.. The People, or The People's please.

The People's.

Sorry.

You corrected it, so worry not about the masses tearing you limb from limb Smiley
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« Reply #5079 on: November 26, 2011, 10:19:16 PM »

The gentleman withdraws his bill from consideration.  The Assembly will now consider the legislation introduced by the gentleman from Pennsylvania.  Debate will last for 48 hours.

Amendment to the NE Constitution - Residential Officeholder Act of 2011

1) Only residents of the Northeast region may run for office in the Northeast.

2) One must be a citizen of the region for a total of 7 (seven) days before declaring a candidacy in any election.

3) If one was previously a resident of the region but changed location, section 2 still applies.
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« Reply #5080 on: November 26, 2011, 10:32:18 PM »

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/New_Northeast_Constitution

The constitution already specifies that Representatives must be citizens of the NE, but it doesn't restrict non-residents from actually running as far as I know.  I need you to figure out what section/Article(s) you're amending before I can support this.  Right now, it just seems to be an attachment, which I dislike.   
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« Reply #5081 on: November 26, 2011, 10:33:57 PM »

It's certainly logical for only Northeast citizens being allowed to run for office here, but I should ask, why do we need section 2?
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« Reply #5082 on: November 27, 2011, 12:49:41 AM »

I'll support this if clause two is extended to say "or voting."
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« Reply #5083 on: November 27, 2011, 12:52:22 AM »

I don't think this is a necessary change so I'm inclined to oppose it. Why do we need a 7 day restriction?
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« Reply #5084 on: November 27, 2011, 09:38:57 AM »

I'll support this if clause two is extended to say "or voting."

I accept this amendment.

I don't think this is a necessary change so I'm inclined to oppose it. Why do we need a 7 day restriction?

Because we have to be registered for 15 days when we first register in Atlasia, why is that sensible but clause 2 is superfluous?
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« Reply #5085 on: November 27, 2011, 11:49:48 AM »
« Edited: November 28, 2011, 10:30:13 PM by Northeast Speaker Scott »

Some senators have come out against the voting restrictions Atlasia has, if I recall correctly.  There really isn't a need for them.  I'm not sure if I will be voting for this, because the first provision is already law and the only new thing this bill appears to add is another voting restriction.
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« Reply #5086 on: November 28, 2011, 10:19:48 PM »
« Edited: November 28, 2011, 10:29:30 PM by Northeast Speaker Scott »

Debate time has expired.  Members will now cast their votes on passage of the amendment.  This will be a 24-hour vote.

2/3 in favor needed for passage

Amendment to the NE Constitution - Residential Officeholder Act of 2011

1) Only residents of the Northeast region may run for office in the Northeast.

2) One must be a citizen of the region for a total of 7 (seven) days before declaring a candidacy in any election or voting.

3) If one was previously a resident of the region but changed location, section 2 still applies.
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« Reply #5087 on: November 28, 2011, 10:21:50 PM »

Nay.
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« Reply #5088 on: November 29, 2011, 06:13:24 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #5089 on: November 29, 2011, 09:43:28 AM »

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« Reply #5090 on: November 29, 2011, 08:58:25 PM »

I still have no clue what sections you which to amend, besides just attaching this at the end.  An unfortunate Nay.
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« Reply #5091 on: November 29, 2011, 09:38:21 PM »

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« Reply #5092 on: November 29, 2011, 10:35:44 PM »

Voting time has expired.  The ayes are two and the nays are three.  The bill fails.

The Assembly will now consider the legislation introduced by myself.  Debate will last for 48 hours.

Amendment to the NE Constitution - Lieutenant Governor Vacancy Act

Article II of the Northeast Constitution is hereby amended:

In the event that the office of the Lieutenant Governor is to become vacated, or that the person who receives the most votes should not take the Oath of Office, a special election shall be held and the victor will take the office to finish the remainder of the term.
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« Reply #5093 on: November 29, 2011, 10:41:34 PM »

I wrote this amendment around the time of the dispute regarding the Lt. Governor vacancy filling.  As cinyc told me, the current Constitution is silent on how to fill these vacancies, and traditionally they've been filled by appointment from the governor after a recommendation by the Assembly.  But this really doesn't make much sense, since the Lt. Governor is suppose to be chosen democratically.  Why should the governor be allowed to appoint people to elected positions just because of a vacancy?  My amendment revises this.
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« Reply #5094 on: November 29, 2011, 11:03:13 PM »

Lt. Governor is not done this way anymore.
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« Reply #5095 on: November 29, 2011, 11:08:56 PM »

Lt. Governor is not done this way anymore.

It was, a couple weeks ago.
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« Reply #5096 on: November 29, 2011, 11:13:53 PM »

But it never will be again.
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« Reply #5097 on: November 29, 2011, 11:16:11 PM »


Not if this is directly addressed in the Constitution, no.
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« Reply #5098 on: November 29, 2011, 11:19:47 PM »

There would be a special election, just like any other Assembly vacancy.
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« Reply #5099 on: November 29, 2011, 11:31:19 PM »

There would be a special election, just like any other Assembly vacancy.

We were suppose to have that, but cinyc said the Constitution doesn't specify how those vacancies are filled and that we would need to pass an amendment because of this.  Two weeks ago, we recommended someone for the position like the Assembly normally had done under the old Constitution.
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