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« Reply #5175 on: December 09, 2011, 07:06:41 PM »

Raising taxes is a losing battle the flat tax works and can be considered a return to status quo, something everyone should be qble to at leaswt settle for, for practical purposes.
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« Reply #5176 on: December 09, 2011, 07:07:42 PM »

What a wonderful state of affairs!  I of course oppose this bill.

I thought you would be behind flat taxes 100%.  Or do you oppose it because it imposes taxes in a region that currently has nothing generating revenue at all?
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« Reply #5177 on: December 09, 2011, 07:09:14 PM »

Raising taxes is a losing battle the flat tax works and can be considered a return to status quo, something everyone should be qble to at leaswt settle for, for practical purposes.

I suppose I would settle for it, if there's nothing else.  But that, of course, is only because we apparently don't have a tax code in this region.
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« Reply #5178 on: December 09, 2011, 07:18:14 PM »

Raising taxes is a losing battle the flat tax works and can be considered a return to status quo, something everyone should be qble to at leaswt settle for, for practical purposes.

I suppose I would settle for it, if there's nothing else.  But that, of course, is only because we apparently don't have a tax code in this region.

That's the priority here: getting some kind of tax code.

FTR I will state that excise taxes are regressive and a bit authoritarian.
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« Reply #5179 on: December 09, 2011, 08:34:48 PM »

Then just introduce an amendment to match the % the March 2005 Initiative.  I guess I could consider voting in favour of it, but I do hope we don't just ignore our tax system, and consider a real one soon.

Raising taxes is a losing battle the flat tax works and can be considered a return to status quo, something everyone should be qble to at leaswt settle for, for practical purposes.

Is it?  If we set it up the right way, I'd have no problem taxing the higher percentages more, and the middle/lower class less.
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« Reply #5180 on: December 09, 2011, 09:34:19 PM »

If this bill is passed by this Assembly, I intend to exercise my veto power.
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« Reply #5181 on: December 09, 2011, 09:41:50 PM »

What a wonderful state of affairs!  I of course oppose this bill.

You just love to be a naysayer, don't you? "Oh I'm a Libertarian!" you're not. You're nothing but a contrarian. You must oppose everything. You're the token nay vote in nearly every bill. You're doing the people of this region no favors by doing that.

Anywho, I suggest we pass this bill because, as stated, we do not have a current tax code. Feel free to amend this bill in the near or distant future, but I suggest we just get a tax code in place. It's a little strange that we don't have one.
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« Reply #5182 on: December 09, 2011, 10:11:25 PM »

I would propose my own tax system; can governors propose legislation, or would I need an assemblyman to propose it on my behalf?
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« Reply #5183 on: December 09, 2011, 10:31:55 PM »

I would propose my own tax system; can governors propose legislation, or would I need an assemblyman to propose it on my behalf?

Put it in the introduction thread and I'll sign it.
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« Reply #5184 on: December 09, 2011, 10:41:19 PM »

I would propose my own tax system; can governors propose legislation, or would I need an assemblyman to propose it on my behalf?

And maybe as an alternative, you can propose the legislation as an amendment to the bill being considered?  I don't believe there are any laws against that.
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« Reply #5185 on: December 09, 2011, 10:42:48 PM »

I'll get it into the thread by tomorrow.
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« Reply #5186 on: December 10, 2011, 12:20:48 AM »

I find sin taxes to be wildly unwholesome. Not to mention that most states attempt to justify their cigarette taxes by claiming they "go towards children's health care" but I'm pretty sure CHP's are federally funded.
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« Reply #5187 on: December 10, 2011, 10:03:43 AM »

I find sin taxes to be wildly unwholesome. Not to mention that most states attempt to justify their cigarette taxes by claiming they "go towards children's health care" but I'm pretty sure CHP's are federally funded.

Well, to be completely honest, I put those in the bill with the thought that our left-leaning Assemblymembers might be more willing to vote for it. I'd be very willing to accept amendments to remove or add things to this bill though.
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« Reply #5188 on: December 10, 2011, 11:55:31 AM »

I'm not sure if I'll vote for this or not.  It depends on what Snowstalker proposes and whether or not it gets amended to the bill.  I am not, however, very willing to vote for it in its current form.
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« Reply #5189 on: December 10, 2011, 12:08:00 PM »

I'm not sure if I'll vote for this or not.  It depends on what Snowstalker proposes and whether or not it gets amended to the bill.  I am not, however, very willing to vote for it in its current form.

I'm very willing to work on amendments to improve the bill.
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« Reply #5190 on: December 11, 2011, 10:10:05 AM »

To my Colleagues,

I'd like to take this time to thank you all for what you've done to help shape me into the person I am today. I entered the Northeast Assembly a long time ago with little to no knowledge of how things work, but with the help of many people, I have learned a lot. In particular, I'd like to thank the following people:

  • Napoleon, for being a great friend of mine and helping to get me elected Governor of the region, regardless of what happened afterward.
  • Wormyguy, for sort of being my "guide" into politics in not only this region, but this country. We may have our difference nowadays, but I am forever grateful.
  • Dallasfan, for being my mentor in Atlasian politics. He's been a great friend of mine for almost as long as I've been an Assemblyman.
  • Winfield, for doing a fantastic job as Governor in my absence. I've probably said it 100 times, but you far exceeded my expectations and did better than I ever could have.
  • Last, but certainly not least, the current Assembly and Governor Snowstalker, for being one of the most diverse group of leaders I have ever encountered. The different ideologies and backgrounds coming together for one purpose-The People-is heartwarming.

I wish you all best of luck in your future endeavors as I go off into the Senate. I'll still be around though, don't worry Wink

Again, thank you all for what you guys have done for me, it really, truly does mean a lot to me.

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« Reply #5191 on: December 11, 2011, 11:44:20 AM »

We will miss your jolly fun you brought to the assembly Jake.
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« Reply #5192 on: December 11, 2011, 11:54:12 AM »

We will miss your jolly fun you brought to the assembly Jake.

Thank you, RFK Smiley
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« Reply #5193 on: December 11, 2011, 02:20:28 PM »

It was a pleasure having you in the Assembly, Jake.  Good luck in the Senate. Smiley
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« Reply #5194 on: December 11, 2011, 02:27:08 PM »

Thanks Jake, truly meaningful statement. It will be a pleasure to serve with you once more. Smiley
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« Reply #5195 on: December 11, 2011, 04:51:04 PM »

It was a pleasure having you in the Assembly, Jake.  Good luck in the Senate. Smiley

Thank you very much Smiley

Thanks Jake, truly meaningful statement. It will be a pleasure to serve with you once more. Smiley

Looking forward to it as well! Cheesy
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« Reply #5196 on: December 11, 2011, 05:41:15 PM »

Thank you, Jake, I wish you every success.
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« Reply #5197 on: December 11, 2011, 06:03:20 PM »

Debate time has expired.  Members will now cast their votes on passage of the legislation.  This will be a 24-hour vote.

Northeast Tax Reform Act of 2011

Income Tax

1. All individual state income taxes are hereby repealed and replaced with a region-wide 4% flat tax.

Sales Tax

1. All individual state sales taxes are hereby repealed and replaced with a regionwide 6.2% sales tax.

2. A Sales Tax shall not be levied on "essential" living items such as clothing, produce, water, meat, etc.

Cigarette Tax

1. Cigarettes are hereby levied with a 9% tax when purchased.

Alcohol Tax

1. Alcohol is hereby levied with a 14% tax when purchased.
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« Reply #5198 on: December 11, 2011, 06:03:59 PM »

Nay.
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« Reply #5199 on: December 11, 2011, 06:05:10 PM »

My last vote, Aye.
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