Northeast Assembly Thread

[Cincinnatus]

Very well.

4.  The official dish of the Northeast Region shall hereby be recognized as clam chowder.

Friendly. 

[Governor Scott]

Debate time has expired.  Members will now cast their votes on passage of the legislation.  This will be a 24-hour vote.

Northeast Symbols Act

1.  The official motto of the Northeast Region shall hereby be recognized as, "   Fax mentis est incedium gloriae"

2.  The official flower of the Northeast Region shall hereby be recognized as the Mountain laurel

3.  The official bird of the Northeast Region shall hereby be recognized as the black capped chickadee.

4.  The official dish of the Northeast Region shall hereby be recognized as clam chowder.

[Governor Scott]

Aye.

[Cincinnatus]

Aye.

[Governor Scott]

Voting time has expired.  The ayes are two, nays are zero, abstentions are zero, and non-voting members are two.  The bill is passed.

The Assembly will now consider the legislation introduced by the gentleman from Maine.  Debate will be for 48 hours.

This is currently the last piece of legislation in the queue.

The Act to Provide Transportation of a Public Manner to Working Individuals and Families Act (APTOPMWIFA)

1.  Bus fare in the major metropolitan areas of the Northeast shall be subsidized 50%.

2.  Added costs to public transportation authorities shall be made up for, with a 2% income tax increase on the highest income bracket, and an added 2% tax on alcohol and tobacco products.

[Governor Scott]

Would the sponsor like to say anything about his bill?

[For Oklahoma]

4. The official dish of the Northeast Region shall hereby be recognized as clam chowder.

Yummy :3

[Governor Scott]

Do veto overrides require a 2/3 majority of just voting members, or a 2/3 majority of all representatives?  The Constitution is not clear about this, and I need to know so I can write it in the legislative record.

[Cincinnatus]

Do veto overrides require a 2/3 majority of just voting members, or a 2/3 majority of all representatives?  The Constitution is not clear about this, and I need to know so I can write it in the legislative record.

Bring it back to the floor after this bill.  It doesn't state "2/3 voting members", but "two-thirds majority vote", so it would require 2/3 of all Representatives or 4 members I would imagine.

[Senator Napoleon]

Do veto overrides require a 2/3 majority of just voting members, or a 2/3 majority of all representatives?  The Constitution is not clear about this, and I need to know so I can write it in the legislative record.

Bring it back to the floor after this bill.  It doesn't state "2/3 voting members", but "two-thirds majority vote", so it would require 2/3 of all Representatives or 4 members I would imagine.

The word vote would imply the total vote is used, not total membership.

[Governor Scott]

Since Napoleon wrote the Constitution, I think we'd go with that answer, then.

[crypto-fascist superhero]

Since Napoleon wrote the Constitution, I think we'd go with that answer, then.

I take it you endorse Originalist readings of such documents, then?

[Governor Scott]

Since Napoleon wrote the Constitution, I think we'd go with that answer, then.

I take it you endorse Originalist readings of such documents, then?

Well then, how would you interpret it?

14. The Legislative Assembly shall have the power to override the Governor’s veto. If the Assembly passes legislation previously vetoed by the Governor by more than a two-thirds majority vote, it becomes law without the Governor’s signature.

[crypto-fascist superhero]

Since Napoleon wrote the Constitution, I think we'd go with that answer, then.

I take it you endorse Originalist readings of such documents, then?

Well then, how would you interpret it?

14. The Legislative Assembly shall have the power to override the Governor’s veto. If the Assembly passes legislation previously vetoed by the Governor by more than a two-thirds majority vote, it becomes law without the Governor’s signature.

I'd probably interpret it the same way you would (although "two-thirds majority" is somewhat ambiguous in that it could mean two thirds and a majority); I'm just commenting that your reasoning in this instance is rejected by liberals.

[Free Palestine]

I believe that APTOPMWIFA (Ap-top-m-weefa) will benefit working-class people in cities, by providing them with much cheaper bus fare in order to go to work and such.  Cheaper bus fare will also potentially decrease fossil fuel consumption, by making it even more viable to take public transportation.

[Governor Scott]

I don't really have a problem with the bill as it stands right now, however section 2 of the bill needs to be fixed since the region currently doesn't have a tax code or a specific income bracket to raise taxes on.

I propose this amendment.

3. Section 2 of this bill shall go into effect at the start of the 2012 budget.

[Free Palestine]

Amendment is friendly.

[Cincinnatus]

Not that I necessarily oppose this bills purpose, but I don't think it's even feasible.  How can this be accomplished when we don't even have a budget proposal for this year?  How can this be accomplished when we don't even have a high income tax bracket, or regional tax brackets at all for that matter?  We don't even have a plausible tax system in this region right now.  I will not vote in favor of this bill at this time.  If it was introduced after we cleaned up this mess, perhaps it would be a different story.

[Governor Scott]

Not that I necessarily oppose this bills purpose, but I don't think it's even feasible.  How can this be accomplished when we don't even have a budget proposal for this year?  How can this be accomplished when we don't even have a high income tax bracket, or regional tax brackets at all for that matter?  We don't even have a plausible tax system in this region right now.  I will not vote in favor of this bill at this time.  If it was introduced after we cleaned up this mess, perhaps it would be a different story.

The bill was amended for the tax increases to go into effect after a budget (which will include a tax plan) gets passed.

[Governor Scott]

Debate time has expired.  Members will now cast their votes on passage of the legislation.  This will be a 24-hour vote.

The Act to Provide Transportation of a Public Manner to Working Individuals and Families Act (APTOPMWIFA)

1.  Bus fare in the major metropolitan areas of the Northeast shall be subsidized 50%.

2.  Added costs to public transportation authorities shall be made up for, with a 2% income tax increase on the highest income bracket, and an added 2% tax on alcohol and tobacco products.

3.  Section 2 of this bill shall go into effect at the start of the 2012 budget.

[Governor Scott]

Aye.

[Cincinnatus]

Nay.

We're still subsidizing 50% under this bill without a tax system.  I know most people here don't really care about revenue, or expenditures considering nothing is cause-effect, nor is it real, but my first point still stands.

[Free Palestine]

Aye

[Cincinnatus]

Aye

You have been expelled from the Assembly.

[Governor Scott]

Aye

You have been expelled from the Assembly.

Quite a while ago, I might add.