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« on: September 28, 2009, 10:20:46 am »
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After a chaotic and mixed mandate (during which he even tried to get his former opponent Nicolas Hulot in the government), President Jean-Louis Borloo decided not to run in the 1981 election, due to a quickly deteriorating health, as he is still a heavy drunker.
Some says that he in fact forgot to register his candidacy in time, having not waken up early enough...

He decides to settle in the south-eastern France and to breed biological wines. He also opens a new restaurant in Paris, "Le Président", where he sells his wines.

This lets the centre-right and the right in disarray and divided, over a troubled political inheritance.

The left puts forward its "traditional" leaders of the time, having lost all its imagination during a very dynamic and erratic Borloo mandate, who decided to test 6 new ideas each week...

Here are the candidates in this new election:

Hervé Morin (<-> Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, leader of the centre-right -"liberal, social and European"- party inside the majority, already in power, still young)

François Hollande (<-> François Mitterrand, leader of the PS for a long time, with a "classic" positioning in the mainstream left at the time)

Dominique de Villepin (<-> Jacques Chirac, gaullist and bonapartist leader, no longer in power at the time, betrayed in the past and is ready to betray again, very harsh on the incumbent majority)

Marie-George Buffet (<-> Georges Marchais, nr.1 of the PCF)

Daniel Cohn-Bendit (<-> Brice Lalonde, "new" Green leader, not entirely opposed to the right, at ease in the medias and... not very interested in dressing fine !)

François Sabado (<-> Arlette Laguiller, not very wellknown Trotskyite leader at the time)

Roger-Gérard Schwartzenberg (<-> Michel Crépeau, "classic" RG leader, with good relations with the PS candidate)

Charles Pasqua (<-> Michel Debré, nationalistic leader, former big minister, now sidelined and viewed as a little bit ridiculous)

Nicolas Dupont-Aignan (<-> Marie-France Garaud, more clever and less known nationalistic politician, quite nasty in her/his way of talking in the medias)

Martine Billard (<-> Huguette Bouchardeau, green, "féministe" and leftist at the same time, not very well-known, not really opposed to the mainstream left and.... ugly look !)

10 candidates, so 10 votes, that you must cast this way: 6 - 2 - 1 - 1.
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2009, 10:36:55 am »
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6 votes for Hervé Morin
2 votes for Roger-Gérard Schwartzenberg
1 vote for Nicolas Dupont-Aignan
1 vote for Charles Pasqua

(gasp, a bad list of candidates...)
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2009, 10:45:54 am »
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6 for Schwatzemberg
2 for Cohn-Bendit
1 for Hollande
1 for Billard

Should be 6-3-1.
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2009, 10:47:56 am »
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Ohlala...

Elle est awful ta liste...

Bon...

Quoi que, y'a Cohn-Bendit quand même...

Well...

Cohn-Bendit 6
Villepin 2
Schwartzenbeg 1
And let's give a point to NDA too.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2009, 02:57:09 pm »
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6 Hervé Morin
2 Roger-Gérard Schwartzenberg
1 Daniel Cohn-Bendit
1 François Hollande
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 03:45:45 pm »
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Mmmmm... I should have voted RGS to avoid DCB !

BTW, don't worry, the list of candidates in 1988 will be a fine little surprise Wink
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 10:38:29 pm »
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6 Buffet
2 Schwartzenberg
1 Hollande
1 Billard
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2009, 01:03:19 am »
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Mmmmm... I should have voted RGS to avoid DCB !

Both are great. Smiley
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FRENCH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION "à la 1981"
Official results of the first round

For the first time in presidential elections, the right hasn't made it to the run-off.
And a man with both French and German nationalities has come first in the first round.
And, once again, the official candidate of the PS is defeated.

60 votes
Daniel Cohn-Bendit 15 votes (25.0%)
Roger-Gérard Schwartzenberg 14 votes (23.3%)

Hervé Morin 12 votes (20.0%)
Marie-George Buffet 7 votes (11.7%)
François Hollande 5 votes (8.3%)
Dominique de Villepin 2 votes (3.3%)
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan 2 votes (3.3%)
Martine Billard 2 votes (3.3%)
Charles Pasqua 1 vote (1.7%)
François Sabado 0 vote (0.0%)


Second round

2 candidates:

Hervé Morin (<-> Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, leader of the centre-right -"liberal, social and European"- party inside the majority, already in power, still young)

François Hollande (<-> François Mitterrand, leader of the PS for a long time, with a "classic" positioning in the mainstream left at the time)

Dominique de Villepin (<-> Jacques Chirac, gaullist and bonapartist leader, no longer in power at the time, betrayed in the past and is ready to betray again, very harsh on the incumbent majority)

Marie-George Buffet (<-> Georges Marchais, nr.1 of the PCF)


Daniel Cohn-Bendit (<-> Brice Lalonde, "new" Green leader, not entirely opposed to the right, at ease in the medias and... not very interested in dressing fine !)

François Sabado (<-> Arlette Laguiller, not very wellknown Trotskyite leader at the time)

Roger-Gérard Schwartzenberg (<-> Michel Crépeau, "classic" RG leader, with good relations with the PS candidate)

Charles Pasqua (<-> Michel Debré, nationalistic leader, former big minister, now sidelined and viewed as a little bit ridiculous)

Nicolas Dupont-Aignan (<-> Marie-France Garaud, more clever and less known nationalistic politician, quite nasty in her/his way of talking in the medias)

Martine Billard (<-> Huguette Bouchardeau, green, "féministe" and leftist at the same time, not very well-known, not really opposed to the mainstream left and.... ugly look !)


You have 2 votes in the second round, that you may cast either 2-0 or 1-1.
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 10:40:35 am »
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2 votes for Roger-Gérard Schwartzenberg
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2009, 10:57:34 am »
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I didn't believe it myself, but I'll be able to give DIFFERENT names for every wing in every of these "what-ifs" elections.
I.e. absolutely NO candidate will be candidate again.

Of course, you've seen that one "match" (Renouvin-Allègre) was a bit weird (but, well, not so bad, after all, given the relative... weirdness of both of them).
You've also seen that this "à la 1981" was the weakest. But, in RL, it was great only because of the left's victory in itself. The candidates weren't very good: an old Mitterrand, a nasty Chirac, a stratospheric and monarchic Giscard, an already tired Marchais, etc.

Don't worry, 1988 will include a little surprise.
1995 will be politically interesting.
2002 will be a big fight.
And 2007 will be a funny-crazy futuristic scenario.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2009, 11:09:46 am »
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2 for Cohn-Bendit of course. Maybe the most actually constructive politician that exist, unluckily with too much taste for provocation and emotion sometimes, but still.

Haha, Schwartziberg: "I'll tell you the future of the 5 years that have past..."
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11/02/2011: Egypt!
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02/09/2013: Abandon of Syria...
...and of, well, 'all of that'...

Money became totally unfair.
Money became totally senseless.
Let's make Money totally useless...

??/??/20??: EU UU!!

Maybe a little update:

Religion Tradition is people's opium...
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2009, 12:48:28 pm »
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1 for Schwartzenberg
1 for Cohn-Bendit
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2009, 05:46:41 pm »
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1 for Schwartzenberg
1 for Cohn-Bendit

See, Xahar ?
Some of us may be unable or unwilling to choose: that's why being able to vote 1-1 isn't useless at all.
And if it was Morin-Schwartzenberg, I may have voted 1-1, because I don't like Morin but at the same time, I don't want to be the one responsible for the left's victory...
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2009, 01:14:06 am »
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1 for Schwartzenberg
1 for Cohn-Bendit

See, Xahar ?
Some of us may be unable or unwilling to choose: that's why being able to vote 1-1 isn't useless at all.
And if it was Morin-Schwartzenberg, I may have voted 1-1, because I don't like Morin but at the same time, I don't want to be the one responsible for the left's victory...

Well, Antonio just didn't vote. Tongue

Schwartzenberg.
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2009, 06:08:21 am »
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Just wait for Hash's vote, I'm sure he'll break our current tie !
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2009, 06:36:03 am »
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Well, Antonio just didn't vote. Tongue

That's a question of points of view : I would never abstain or vote blank in any election. This time, I pledge for both RGS and DCB, because I like both.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2009, 06:41:36 am »
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Well, Antonio just didn't vote. Tongue

That's a question of points of view : I would never abstain or vote blank in any election. This time, I pledge for both RGS and DCB, because I like both.

Your vote is great.
And your statement is so right !

It's a game, but a game where we MOSTLY want to have numbers, results that enable me to put photos, make a alternate list, etc
It's not just that we want him or her to win or to lose.
So, you're really welcome Antonio with this vote Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2009, 07:27:59 am »
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Well, Antonio just didn't vote. Tongue

That's a question of points of view : I would never abstain or vote blank in any election. This time, I pledge for both RGS and DCB, because I like both.

Your vote is great.
And your statement is so right !

It's a game, but a game where we MOSTLY want to have numbers, results that enable me to put photos, make a alternate list, etc
It's not just that we want him or her to win or to lose.
So, you're really welcome Antonio with this vote Smiley

Thanks a lot. Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2009, 03:54:53 am »
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A very fierce race between Schwartzenberg and Cohn-Bendit: 5-5 !
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2009, 04:35:41 am »
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A very fierce race between Schwartzenberg and Cohn-Bendit: 5-5 !

PM Hash. Wink
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2009, 04:55:01 am »
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A very fierce race between Schwartzenberg and Cohn-Bendit: 5-5 !

PM Hash. Wink
Done Wink
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2009, 06:49:48 am »
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2 for Schwartzenberg

Ain't voting for anybody who hates Marchais with a passion.
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2009, 10:33:35 am »
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FRENCH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION "à la 1981"
Official results of the first round

6 voters
Daniel Cohn-Bendit 15 votes (25.0%)
Roger-Gérard Schwartzenberg 14 votes (23.3%)

Hervé Morin 12 votes (20.0%)
Marie-George Buffet 7 votes (11.7%)
François Hollande 5 votes (8.3%)
Dominique de Villepin 2 votes (3.3%)
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan 2 votes (3.3%)
Martine Billard 2 votes (3.3%)
Charles Pasqua 1 vote (1.7%)
François Sabado 0 vote (0.0%)


Official results of the second round

6 voters
Roger-Gérard Schwartzenberg 7 votes (58.3%)
Daniel Cohn-Bendit 5 votes (41.7%)

L'alternance continue: after Jean-Christophe Lagarde, Benoît Hamon and Jean-Louis Borloo, Roger-Gérard Schwartzenberg is elected the fourth president of the French current Republic.
And, after Mr. Borloo, he is the second "radical". Is this Republic beginning to look like the old one ?



Vive la République ! Vive la France !
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