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« on: September 30, 2009, 09:21:09 pm »
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091001/ap_on_re_us/us_empire_state_building_china

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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 09:22:12 pm »
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China sucks.



FFs! to the max!
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 09:22:33 pm »
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My opinion, of course, is obvious.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 09:48:59 pm »
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     True freedom fighters. Free Tibet!
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 10:04:01 pm »
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     True freedom fighters. Free Tibet!

I didn't know libertarians could be reasonable. Thanks for proving me wrong! Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2009, 10:07:51 pm »
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     True freedom fighters. Free Tibet!

I didn't know libertarians could be reasonable. Thanks for proving me wrong! Cheesy

Well the Tibet protestors are protesting New York City's approval of a Communist Totalitarian regime, why wouldn't libertarians approve of such a protest?
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2009, 10:09:09 pm »
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Meh. If this hurts trade with China, HP.
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2009, 10:10:20 pm »
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Meh. If this hurts trade with China, HPFF.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2009, 10:13:08 pm »
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Meh. If this hurts trade with China, HPFF.

Although I approve of the Tibet protests, wanting bad trade relations with other nations is crazy.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2009, 10:13:08 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 10:13:33 pm »
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 10:13:55 pm »
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Meh. If this hurts trade with China, HPFF.

Why? Protip: trade is by far the greatest factor in encouraging authoritarian nations to change.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 10:19:30 pm »
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trade is by far the greatest factor in encouraging authoritarian nations to change.

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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2009, 10:20:59 pm »
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trade is by far the greatest factor in encouraging authoritarian nations to change.

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You need only look at perestroika for confirmation of this rule: authoritarian nations, when placed under the democratizing pressures of the international market, either fold or change before the influence of democratic First World nations. 
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trade is by far the greatest factor in encouraging authoritarian nations to change.

what is this i don't even

You need only look at perestroika for confirmation of this rule: authoritarian nations, when placed under the democratizing pressures of the international market, either fold or change before the influence of democratic First World nations. 

democratizing pressures of the international market?


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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2009, 10:25:42 pm »
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trade is by far the greatest factor in encouraging authoritarian nations to change.

what is this i don't even

You need only look at perestroika for confirmation of this rule: authoritarian nations, when placed under the democratizing pressures of the international market, either fold or change before the influence of democratic First World nations. 

democratizing pressures of the international market?

The Soviet Union didn't fall because of Reagan's ludicrous defense spending, conservative whining to the contrary. It fell because it underwent massive trade liberalization in the 1980s, and its inefficient authoritarian domestic economy couldn't compete with the economies of the Western democracies.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2009, 10:29:51 pm »
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trade is by far the greatest factor in encouraging authoritarian nations to change.

what is this i don't even

You need only look at perestroika for confirmation of this rule: authoritarian nations, when placed under the democratizing pressures of the international market, either fold or change before the influence of democratic First World nations. 

democratizing pressures of the international market?

The Soviet Union didn't fall because of Reagan's ludicrous defense spending, conservative whining to the contrary. It fell because it underwent massive trade liberalization in the 1980s, and its inefficient authoritarian domestic economy couldn't compete with the economies of the Western democracies.

China's authoritarian economy can compete with the economies of the Western democracies.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2009, 10:31:39 pm »
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trade is by far the greatest factor in encouraging authoritarian nations to change.

what is this i don't even

You need only look at perestroika for confirmation of this rule: authoritarian nations, when placed under the democratizing pressures of the international market, either fold or change before the influence of democratic First World nations. 

democratizing pressures of the international market?

The Soviet Union didn't fall because of Reagan's ludicrous defense spending, conservative whining to the contrary. It fell because it underwent massive trade liberalization in the 1980s, and its inefficient authoritarian domestic economy couldn't compete with the economies of the Western democracies.

China's authoritarian economy can compete with the economies of the Western democracies.

Not internally, which is why the flow of trade from China is one-way. If trade in the Chinese interior were liberalized to foreign markets, it would collapse rapidly.
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trade is by far the greatest factor in encouraging authoritarian nations to change.

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You need only look at perestroika for confirmation of this rule: authoritarian nations, when placed under the democratizing pressures of the international market, either fold or change before the influence of democratic First World nations. 

democratizing pressures of the international market?

The Soviet Union didn't fall because of Reagan's ludicrous defense spending, conservative whining to the contrary. It fell because it underwent massive trade liberalization in the 1980s, and its inefficient authoritarian domestic economy couldn't compete with the economies of the Western democracies.

China's authoritarian economy can compete with the economies of the Western democracies.

Not internally, which is why the flow of trade from China is one-way. If trade in the Chinese interior were liberalized to foreign markets, it would collapse rapidly.

Too bad it will not liberalize.
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2009, 10:37:17 pm »
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trade is by far the greatest factor in encouraging authoritarian nations to change.

what is this i don't even

You need only look at perestroika for confirmation of this rule: authoritarian nations, when placed under the democratizing pressures of the international market, either fold or change before the influence of democratic First World nations. 

democratizing pressures of the international market?

The Soviet Union didn't fall because of Reagan's ludicrous defense spending, conservative whining to the contrary. It fell because it underwent massive trade liberalization in the 1980s, and its inefficient authoritarian domestic economy couldn't compete with the economies of the Western democracies.

China's authoritarian economy can compete with the economies of the Western democracies.

Not internally, which is why the flow of trade from China is one-way. If trade in the Chinese interior were liberalized to foreign markets, it would collapse rapidly.

Too bad it will not liberalize.

It would if it were pressured to do so. But our Republican representatives, who are oh so in favor of free trade, have no desire to do so, because keeping China around as a boogeyman helps to keep defense spending high. And the Democrats would be made to look weak on the issue.
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Too bad it will not liberalize.

It would if it were pressured to do so. But our Republican representatives, who are oh so in favor of free trade, have no desire to do so, because keeping China around as a boogeyman helps to keep defense spending high. And the Democrats would be made to look weak on the issue.

How do we pressure them into liberalizing?
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2009, 10:49:55 pm »
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trade is by far the greatest factor in encouraging authoritarian nations to change.

what is this i don't even

You need only look at perestroika for confirmation of this rule: authoritarian nations, when placed under the democratizing pressures of the international market, either fold or change before the influence of democratic First World nations. 

democratizing pressures of the international market?

The Soviet Union didn't fall because of Reagan's ludicrous defense spending, conservative whining to the contrary. It fell because it underwent massive trade liberalization in the 1980s, and its inefficient authoritarian domestic economy couldn't compete with the economies of the Western democracies.

China's authoritarian economy can compete with the economies of the Western democracies.

Not internally, which is why the flow of trade from China is one-way. If trade in the Chinese interior were liberalized to foreign markets, it would collapse rapidly.

Too bad it will not liberalize.

It would if it were pressured to do so. But our Republican representatives, who are oh so in favor of free trade, have no desire to do so, because keeping China around as a boogeyman helps to keep defense spending high. And the Democrats would be made to look weak on the issue.

Or maybe the Democrats are unabashed corporatist bastards who'd rather have their buddies make a few dollars off it?
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Too bad it will not liberalize.

It would if it were pressured to do so. But our Republican representatives, who are oh so in favor of free trade, have no desire to do so, because keeping China around as a boogeyman helps to keep defense spending high. And the Democrats would be made to look weak on the issue.

How do we pressure them into liberalizing?

Through diplomatic and economic pressure. Sell directly to the Hui and the Uyghur and the Tibetans and expand our aid packages to Taiwan, and offer to cut it off if China liberalizes its trade relations.
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2009, 12:51:27 am »
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I oppose the PRC on principle, but why should Tibet be "freed"?
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