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politicaladdict
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« on: October 02, 2009, 08:59:44 PM »

Why a so-called Public health option when the poor have Medicaid and the elderly have Medicare? Plus they're going bankrupt, why not reform them instead?

When people say we have one of the lowest life-expectancies. So what, that is statistic for death in the U.S. period unrelated to health care, and when you look at the death statistics in "World CIA Factbook" it's related to deaths that have the almost same percentage not even about health.

I do notice, though, that advocates for Universal Health Care never really point ou that we have the highest Cancer Survival rate, which is more related to health care than some random U.S. death statistics.
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2009, 09:36:50 PM »
« Edited: October 02, 2009, 09:46:07 PM by politicaladdict »

Why a so-called Public health option when the poor have Medicaid and the elderly have Medicare?

Because people on Medicaid/Medicare generally consider them good programs.

Ok, so if there good programs then why do we need to establish a so-called public-option?

And Medicare and Medicaid are going bankrupt aswell as Social-Security.
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politicaladdict
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 09:50:02 PM »

Why a so-called Public health option when the poor have Medicaid and the elderly have Medicare?

Because people on Medicaid/Medicare generally consider them good programs.

Ok, so if there good programs then why do we need to establish a so-called public-option?

Exactly! It would be much easier to simply drop the minimum age for medicare from 65 to 0.

What?
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politicaladdict
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 10:04:11 PM »

Why a so-called Public health option when the poor have Medicaid and the elderly have Medicare?

Because people on Medicaid/Medicare generally consider them good programs.

Ok, so if there good programs then why do we need to establish a so-called public-option?

They work, so it makes sense to extend it to everyone.

What tha****?

If those systems work, than why do we need to expand it to people who can afford health insurance?

You don't make sense!
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politicaladdict
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 10:57:36 PM »

Why a so-called Public health option when the poor have Medicaid and the elderly have Medicare?

Because people on Medicaid/Medicare generally consider them good programs.

Ok, so if there good programs then why do we need to establish a so-called public-option?

They work, so it makes sense to extend it to everyone.

What tha****?

If those systems work, than why do we need to expand it to people who can afford health insurance?

You don't make sense!

They work, so why shouldn't everyone have them?

You should just come out and say we need single-payer insurance for everybody, because a public-option is not enough

Because Medicare and Medicaid is basically a public-option for the poor and elderly.
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politicaladdict
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 11:27:47 PM »

Yeah, I don't know why politicaladdict finds this so hard to understand.

Also he's incredibly uninformed if he thinks a public option is the same as medicaid or medicare.

I'm uninformed? Why do we need a public health option for the poor and elderly if we already have medicare and medicaid?

YOU DOPE!
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politicaladdict
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 11:35:39 PM »

Yeah, I don't know why politicaladdict finds this so hard to understand.

Also he's incredibly uninformed if he thinks a public option is the same as medicaid or medicare.

I'm uninformed? Why do we need a public health option for the poor and elderly if we already have medicare and medicaid?

YOU DOPE!

We don't, dope, and that's why the public option is for people who don't have either. The public option is NOT an entitlement program. It's a government-owned/run corporation that would sell health insurance to consumers.

What difference is it gonna make to have a so-called option  if medicare, gov program, ain't covering certain people?

Are you saying medicaid ain't enough and instead we need to add more gov programs and increase the bankruptcy like medicare and medicaid and social-security are?
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politicaladdict
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2009, 12:07:36 AM »

Yeah, I don't know why politicaladdict finds this so hard to understand.

Also he's incredibly uninformed if he thinks a public option is the same as medicaid or medicare.

I'm uninformed? Why do we need a public health option for the poor and elderly if we already have medicare and medicaid?

YOU DOPE!

We don't, dope, and that's why the public option is for people who don't have either. The public option is NOT an entitlement program. It's a government-owned/run corporation that would sell health insurance to consumers.

What difference is it gonna make to have a so-called option  if medicare, gov program, ain't covering certain people?

Are you saying medicaid ain't enough and instead we need to add more gov programs and increase the bankruptcy like medicare and medicaid and social-security are?

Given that Medicaid works for those who have it, wouldn't it make sense to extend it to all?

Well one: Medicare is going bankrupt.

And two: No it doesn't make sense to extend to all if those others can afford private health insurance. Besides money comes from somewhere and the gov didn't make it.

Ok enough about medicare for all because no one has a real answer.

Let's move on to explaining why we have the highest cancer-survival-rate? Can any lib answer that?
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2009, 12:20:47 AM »

Yeah, I don't know why politicaladdict finds this so hard to understand.

Also he's incredibly uninformed if he thinks a public option is the same as medicaid or medicare.

I'm uninformed? Why do we need a public health option for the poor and elderly if we already have medicare and medicaid?

YOU DOPE!

We don't, dope, and that's why the public option is for people who don't have either. The public option is NOT an entitlement program. It's a government-owned/run corporation that would sell health insurance to consumers.

What difference is it gonna make to have a so-called option  if medicare, gov program, ain't covering certain people?

Are you saying medicaid ain't enough and instead we need to add more gov programs and increase the bankruptcy like medicare and medicaid and social-security are?

Oops, I think you're literally retarded!

I bet you are!

This doesn't answer the question about the highest cancer-survival-rate liberals generally don't want to talk about.
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politicaladdict
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2009, 12:35:41 AM »


Why do you come to my country before you learn english, or did you just misspell taik on purpose?
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politicaladdict
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2009, 04:10:26 PM »

Yeah, I don't know why politicaladdict finds this so hard to understand.

Also he's incredibly uninformed if he thinks a public option is the same as medicaid or medicare.

I'm uninformed? Why do we need a public health option for the poor and elderly if we already have medicare and medicaid?

YOU DOPE!

I wasn't buying into your argument until you threw in the "you dope".  Now, I see.  Public Option is epic fail.  And Lief is a dope.

Thanks for setting me straight.



Wow, I'm glad a liberal could even learn anything!
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politicaladdict
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2009, 02:24:21 PM »

Medicaid covers only a very small portion of poor people.  Indigent single adults without children die in the street.

Here's just one example of an AMERICAN woman named Barbara Wagner who was denied a drug and was offered assisted suicide instead under Oregon's version of a PUBLIC health car system.
http://www.wral.com/golo/blogpost/5755842/

And there's more and more people who die in Britain and Canada and there's a bunch of names of peoples stories, aswell.

Yeah. About only 15% of the population of uninsured, right?



Oh, and plus there's "Emergency Rooms".

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politicaladdict
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2009, 02:27:09 PM »

Why a so-called Public health option when the poor have Medicaid and the elderly have Medicare? Plus they're going bankrupt, why not reform them instead?

aren't they going bankrupt [rates increasing faster than inflation] at a less quick rate than the healthcare system as a whole?

No!

Why would they go bankrupt?

Pretty amazing that 85% like the health care system and are just fine.
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politicaladdict
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2009, 02:34:07 PM »

Michael Moore, some of the liberals favorite man, said, "It's Absolutely a Good Thing’ for Government to Drive Private Health Insurance Out of Business."
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/54968


So much about fairness of keeping it balanced. on the this libs side and there a bunch who want the single-payer including Barney Frank, John Kerry and alot on video.
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2009, 02:38:29 PM »

Here's a question. If we need the public-option so bad, then why would they wait to implement it it till about 2013? Mmmm!
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2009, 08:45:36 PM »


Why not medicaid which is basically a public-option for the poor. And I don't see how taking over more makes sense, except the government getting more power.
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