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Past French prez elections today: President Dominique STRAUSS-KAHN, 2002-2007
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Past French prez elections today: President Dominique STRAUSS-KAHN, 2002-2007
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October 07, 2009, 11:18:18 am »
The parliamentary elections of 1997 gave a majority to the mainstream right, led by Nicolas Sarkozy.
President Cochet had dissolved the Assemblée Nationale because of constant infightings inside the "plural" left on European problems and on privatizations and reforms forced by European law.
Divisions inside the left and inside almost every party in the left led to a big defeat for them.
President Cochet more and more faded from the front political landscape and he eventually wasn't nominated by his party to seek re-election.
He only managed to shorten the presidential term to 5 years.
The clear pro-European positioning of the PS, under Strauss-Kahn's leadership, led to the dissidence of the left of the party, with Mélenchon.
The Greens fell again in internal fightings, with a Eurosceptic, Alain Lipietz, prevailing for the presidential candidacy.
Even the PCF has decided to support its orthodox Gremetz.
On the right, Sarkozy, incumbent PM with big powers, is the candidate of the mainstream and tries to make people think he's already in the second round.
But many small candidates from the right appear.
The UDF seems to be more and more independent and, taking advantage of constant debates on the European question, puts forward its own candidate. Marielle de Sarnez.
A all-time high of 16 candidates:
Nicolas Sarkozy
(<-> Jacques Chirac, main leader of the right)
Dominique Strauss-Kahn
(<-> Lionel Jospin, main socialist candidate in public opinion...)
Roger Holeindre
(<-> Jean-Marie Le Pen, harsh and ageing leader of the FN)
Marielle de Sarnez
(<-> François Bayrou, more and more "independent" centrist candidate)
Jean-Luc Mélenchon
(<-> Jean-Pierre Chevènement, former socialist, at the left of the PS, with anti-European statements and ability to hurt the socialist candidate)
Alain Lipietz
(<-> Noël Mamère, candidate at the left of the Greens)
Pierre-François Grond
(<-> Olivier Besancenot, new generation of the LCR)
Frédéric Nihous
(<-> Jean Saint-Josse, leader of the CPNT at the time)
Hervé Novelli
(<-> Alain Madelin, leader of the "libérale" right)
Maxime Gremetz
(<-> Robert Hue, orthodox communist at the time)
Jean-Claude Martinez
(<-> Bruno Mégret, FN dissident with southern basis and university background...)
Emile Zuccarelli
(<-> Christiane Taubira, Left Radical candidate, from the left of the party, with dedication to the "République" and coming from outside the "métropole"...)
France Gamerre
(<-> Corinne Lepage, ecological centre-right at the time)
Jean-Frédéric Poisson
(<-> Christine Boutin, Catholic right)
Jean Markun
(<-> Daniel Gluckstein, internationalist trotskyite)
16 candidates, so you have
16 votes that you must cast this way: 10 - 3 - 2 - 1
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 1st round
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10 Sarkozy
3 Poisson
2 Novelli
1 DSK
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 1st round
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Oh f**k, one more awful list, maybe the most...
Strauss Kahn 10
Gamerre 3
Sarnez 2
Novelli 1
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 1st round
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Quote from: Benwah on October 07, 2009, 01:52:01 pm
Oh f**k, one more awful list, maybe the most...
Just note that, throughout all the elections, I will simply have picked all the major leaders of each party... So, it's not the lists which are awful but the reality
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 1st round
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October 07, 2009, 05:24:20 pm »
10 Gamerre
3 Strauss-Kahn
2 Nihous
1 Mélenchon
I had a hard time choosing about all of them. I almost put DSK, but he's not needing 10 votes since he'll undoubtedly make it, and I'm at heart a centrist blue-green like Gamerre and unlike Lepage I don't hang out with fake centrists. I wanted to put Nihous second, but the whole Libertas-to-UMP shtick was fail and I still like DSK. I had a hard time figuring out my last vote between Stalin, Novelli and Mélenchon. But since I'm similar in behaviour and character to Mélenchon, I chose him
For obvious reasons, and despite my Radicalism, I absolutely would not vote for Zuccarelli. And for reasons related to gerrymandering my department, his opportunism, his character, his godawful re-centralizing territorial 'reform' and his past presumed comments on Bretons, I would never vote for Sarko again.
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 1st round
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Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on October 07, 2009, 05:24:20 pm
10 Gamerre
3 Strauss-Kahn
2 Nihous
1 Mélenchon
I had a hard time choosing about all of them. I almost put DSK, but he's not needing 10 votes since he'll undoubtedly make it, and I'm at heart a centrist blue-green like Gamerre and unlike Lepage I don't hang out with fake centrists. I wanted to put Nihous second, but the whole Libertas-to-UMP shtick was fail and I still like DSK. I had a hard time figuring out my last vote between Stalin, Novelli and Mélenchon. But since I'm similar in behaviour and character to Mélenchon, I chose him
For obvious reasons, and despite my Radicalism, I absolutely would not vote for Zuccarelli. And for reasons related to gerrymandering my department, his opportunism, his character, his godawful re-centralizing territorial 'reform' and his past presumed comments on Bretons, I would never vote for Sarko again.
Wow, Mélenchon even over Lipietz...!
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 1st round
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10 for Strauss-Khan
3 for Sarnez
2 for Zuccarelli
1 for Lipietz
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 1st round
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Quote from: big bad fab on October 07, 2009, 05:22:38 pm
Quote from: Benwah on October 07, 2009, 01:52:01 pm
Oh f**k, one more awful list, maybe the most...
Just note that, throughout all the elections, I will simply have picked all the major leaders of each party... So, it's not the lists which are awful but the reality
Of course, you had to understand it this way.
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 1st round
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October 08, 2009, 10:50:00 am »
FRENCH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS "à la 2002"
Official results of the first round
80 votes:
Dominique Strauss-Kahn 34 votes (42.5%)
France Gamerre 13 votes (16.3%)
Nicolas Sarkozy 10 votes (12.5%)
Marielle de Sarnez 6 votes (7.5%)
Emile Zuccarelli 5 votes (6.3%)
Jean-Frédéric Poisson 3 votes (3.8%)
Hervé Novelli 3 votes (3.8%)
Alain Lipietz 3 votes (3.8%)
Frédéric Nihous 2 votes (2.5%)
Jean-Luc Mélenchon 1 vote (1.3%)
Roger Holeindre 0 vote (0.0%)
Maxime Gremetz 0 vote (0.0%)
Jean-Claude Martinez 0 vote (0.0%)
Pierre-François Grond 0 vote (0.0%)
Jean Markun 0 vote (0.0%)
If DSK was widely expected as leading the first round (he may even have won in the first round !), France Gamerre will be his surprising opponent in the second round.
Again, the mainstream right is ousted in the first round. A big defeat for the incumbent PM, who is defeated in the first round, as in real life (
).
2 candidates, so 2
votes that you can cast 2 - 0 or 1 - 1
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 2nd round
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October 08, 2009, 10:51:46 am »
I don't like France Gamerre personally.
But, as DSK doesn't need my votes, I'd say:
2 for Gamerre.
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October 08, 2009, 10:59:17 am »
Don't know enough Gamerre so I'd go with Strauss, he would be a not so bad pragmatic...
Strauss Kahn
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 2nd round
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2 for Strauss-Khan
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 2nd round
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2 for Gamerre. Albeit both are decent choices.
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 2nd round
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Re: Past French prez elections transposed to the present: "à la 2002", 1st round
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FRENCH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS "à la 2002"
Official results of the first round
5 voters
Dominique Strauss-Kahn 34 votes (42.5%)
France Gamerre 13 votes (16.3%)
Nicolas Sarkozy 10 votes (12.5%)
Marielle de Sarnez 6 votes (7.5%)
Emile Zuccarelli 5 votes (6.3%)
Jean-Frédéric Poisson 3 votes (3.8%)
Hervé Novelli 3 votes (3.8%)
Alain Lipietz 3 votes (3.8%)
Frédéric Nihous 2 votes (2.5%)
Jean-Luc Mélenchon 1 vote (1.3%)
Roger Holeindre 0 vote (0.0%)
Maxime Gremetz 0 vote (0.0%)
Jean-Claude Martinez 0 vote (0.0%)
Pierre-François Grond 0 vote (0.0%)
Jean Markun 0 vote (0.0%)
Official results of the second round
6 voters
Dominique Strauss-Kahn 8 votes (66.7%)
France Gamerre 4 votes (33.3%)
And Dominique Strauss-Kahn crushed France Gamerre in the second round, becoming maybe the first foreseen president of the current French Republic...
Vive la République ! Vive la France !
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