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President Marokai
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The Strategic Registration Amendment [Passed to Regions]
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The Strategic Registration Amendment
1. Article V, Section 2, Clause 7 is hereby amended to read: "Persons may only change their State of registration once every 180 days."
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Senator Ben
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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I personally don't think it goes far enough. It's probably the best that can be achieved, though.
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Well I do think it goes far enough. I might even support reeling it back a month or so, but it has my complete support regardless.
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Senator North Carolina Yankee
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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I see nothing wrong with this.
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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October 12, 2009, 06:05:03 pm »
Quote from: Deeds for Governor '09 on October 12, 2009, 05:28:34 pm
I personally don't think it goes far enough. It's probably the best that can be achieved, though.
What do you think the Senate could do, Governor Ben, to make this amendment better?
Lt. Gov. PiT suggested the idea to allow people to move if there is a real life move. While that would be ideal, it could be a lot of work for moderators, and there could be some loopholes in this.
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on October 12, 2009, 06:05:03 pm
Quote from: Deeds for Governor '09 on October 12, 2009, 05:28:34 pm
I personally don't think it goes far enough. It's probably the best that can be achieved, though.
What do you think the Senate could do, Governor Ben, to make this amendment better?
Lt. Gov. PiT suggested the idea to allow people to move if there is a real life move. While that would be ideal, it could be a lot of work for moderators, and there could be some loopholes in this.
It occurred to me that people have sometimes experienced spontaneous temporary IP changes. I doubt there would be that many changes due to real life moves, so maybe they could be required to wait a week first & then the mods could go back & check the poster's IP addresses over the last week or so.
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Senator Ben
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on October 12, 2009, 06:05:03 pm
What do you think the Senate could do, Governor Ben, to make this amendment better?
I'd like to add in a requirement saying that people must move at least 45 days prior to an election taking place in order to vote in that election.
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Quote from: Deeds for Governor '09 on October 12, 2009, 06:12:09 pm
Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on October 12, 2009, 06:05:03 pm
What do you think the Senate could do, Governor Ben, to make this amendment better?
I'd like to add in a requirement saying that people must move at least 45 days prior to an election taking place in order to vote in that election.
Well, that could be complicated in a region like ours, where we have elections running every two months. I could consider 15, maybe even 30, though. But you could easily work your way around that. Most parties know which candidates they're running months before the election. That would only make things a little more difficult for them, having to make sure everyone was moved to the right region within 45/30/15 days before the election.
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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October 12, 2009, 06:15:47 pm »
I support this, and I would not vote against a reduction of the time frame from 180 to 120 or 90. Though 90 is the absolute limit.
I oppose a loophole for 'real-life moves', since it's easy to fake that and forcing mods to do an IP check would get very tedious on them if they even bother doing it.
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Senator Ben
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on October 12, 2009, 06:15:16 pm
Well, that could be complicated in a region like ours, where we have elections running every two months. I could consider 15, maybe even 30, though. But you could easily work your way around that. Most parties know which candidates they're running months before the election. That would only make things a little more difficult for them, having to make sure everyone was moved to the right region within 45/30/15 days before the election.
I don't want to make it any easier for a Party to move people in before an election. While you have a valid point about the 2 month elections, nobody has strategically moved in order to win the Mideast Assembly or the Governorship of the Northeast. This is all about Federal Elections, which are every 4 months.
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on October 12, 2009, 06:15:47 pm
I support this, and I would not vote against a reduction of the time frame from 180 to 120 or 90. Though 90 is the absolute limit.
I oppose a loophole for 'real-life moves', since it's easy to fake that and forcing mods to do an IP check would get very tedious on them if they even bother doing it.
Especially if they have to sniff out proxies. Yeah, it's probably for the best to not include that.
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Also, I say we use this opportunity to clarify, in words and on paper, that no 'free moves' are to be allowed.
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Jayhawker
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on October 12, 2009, 06:27:54 pm
Also, I say we use this opportunity to clarify, in words and on paper, that no 'free moves' are to be allowed.
That's a good idea.
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Quote from: John_Engle on November 02, 2012, 04:25:37 pm
Tmthforu94
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President Marokai
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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October 12, 2009, 06:36:45 pm »
I have a certain soft spot for the 'free move.' It allows people who are new to the game to get more used to it and move to a region they more appreciate. We should still retain some newbie-friendliness.
Unfortunately it also has the potential for great abuse, which is why I'm conflicted. However, if people are going to vote stack, I'd imagine they'd do it in the initial registration, and not necessarily in the free move.
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Quote from: Sen. Marokai Blue, PPT on October 12, 2009, 06:36:45 pm
I have a certain soft spot for the 'free move.' It allows people who are new to the game to get more used to it and move to a region they more appreciate. We should still retain some newbie-friendliness.
Unfortunately it also has the potential for great abuse, which is why I'm conflicted. However, if people are going to vote stack, I'd imagine they'd do it in the initial registration, and not necessarily in the free move.
How about, making the free move void after a period of one week?
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Tmthforu94
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President Marokai
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Quote from: Senator Tmthforu94 on October 12, 2009, 06:37:42 pm
Quote from: Sen. Marokai Blue, PPT on October 12, 2009, 06:36:45 pm
I have a certain soft spot for the 'free move.' It allows people who are new to the game to get more used to it and move to a region they more appreciate. We should still retain some newbie-friendliness.
Unfortunately it also has the potential for great abuse, which is why I'm conflicted. However, if people are going to vote stack, I'd imagine they'd do it in the initial registration, and not necessarily in the free move.
How about, making the free move void after a period of one week?
That's a reasonable compromise.
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Purple State
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Bravo for game reform.
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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October 12, 2009, 08:05:47 pm »
I propose an amendment to my own bill.
Special thanks to Marokai for assisting me on this.
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The Strategic Registration Amendment
1. Article V, Section 2, Clause 7 is hereby amended to read: "Persons may only change their State of registration once every 180 days.
2. New citizens registering to vote shall have seven days in which the 180 days requirement does not apply for one "free move." After the individual has used their "free move" or after the 7 days have passed, the 180 day limit applies, with seven days deducted from the overall limit.
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Tmthforu94
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President Marokai
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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October 12, 2009, 08:06:48 pm »
I believe we just treat this as a friendly amendment, so Senators have 24 hours to object.
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Senator Sbane
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on October 12, 2009, 06:15:47 pm
I support this, and I would not vote against a reduction of the time frame from 180 to 120 or 90. Though 90 is the absolute limit.
I oppose a loophole for 'real-life moves', since it's easy to fake that and forcing mods to do an IP check would get very tedious on them if they even bother doing it.
If you reduce it to 90, won't individuals be able to move in between regional senate races? I support keeping the bill as it is.
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Alexander Hamilton
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Quote from: sbane on October 13, 2009, 09:49:52 pm
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on October 12, 2009, 06:15:47 pm
I support this, and I would not vote against a reduction of the time frame from 180 to 120 or 90. Though 90 is the absolute limit.
I oppose a loophole for 'real-life moves', since it's easy to fake that and forcing mods to do an IP check would get very tedious on them if they even bother doing it.
If you reduce it to 90, won't individuals be able to move in between regional senate races? I support keeping the bill as it is.
No because regional elections are every 4 months. 4 months>90 days.
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Purple State
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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October 13, 2009, 09:54:54 pm »
Quote from: NE Rep. Hamilton (PC-MA) on October 13, 2009, 09:51:03 pm
Quote from: sbane on October 13, 2009, 09:49:52 pm
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on October 12, 2009, 06:15:47 pm
I support this, and I would not vote against a reduction of the time frame from 180 to 120 or 90. Though 90 is the absolute limit.
I oppose a loophole for 'real-life moves', since it's easy to fake that and forcing mods to do an IP check would get very tedious on them if they even bother doing it.
If you reduce it to 90, won't individuals be able to move in between regional senate races? I support keeping the bill as it is.
No because regional elections are every 4 months. 4 months>90 days.
Which means you could move in between regional Senate races, because there are more than ninety days in four months.
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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October 13, 2009, 09:56:39 pm »
Quote from: NE Rep. Hamilton (PC-MA) on October 13, 2009, 09:51:03 pm
Quote from: sbane on October 13, 2009, 09:49:52 pm
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on October 12, 2009, 06:15:47 pm
I support this, and I would not vote against a reduction of the time frame from 180 to 120 or 90. Though 90 is the absolute limit.
I oppose a loophole for 'real-life moves', since it's easy to fake that and forcing mods to do an IP check would get very tedious on them if they even bother doing it.
If you reduce it to 90, won't individuals be able to move in between regional senate races? I support keeping the bill as it is.
No because regional elections are every 4 months. 4 months>90 days.
Which means you could move after 3 months to the next region that looks competitive. I guess anything more than 120 days should be sufficient.
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Alexander Hamilton
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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Quote from: GM Purple State on October 13, 2009, 09:54:54 pm
Quote from: NE Rep. Hamilton (PC-MA) on October 13, 2009, 09:51:03 pm
Quote from: sbane on October 13, 2009, 09:49:52 pm
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on October 12, 2009, 06:15:47 pm
I support this, and I would not vote against a reduction of the time frame from 180 to 120 or 90. Though 90 is the absolute limit.
I oppose a loophole for 'real-life moves', since it's easy to fake that and forcing mods to do an IP check would get very tedious on them if they even bother doing it.
If you reduce it to 90, won't individuals be able to move in between regional senate races? I support keeping the bill as it is.
No because regional elections are every 4 months. 4 months>90 days.
Which means you could move in between regional Senate races, because there are more than ninety days in four months.
30+31+30+31=122
So yeah, 125 days I suppose is good enough.
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Alexander Hamilton
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Re: The Strategic Registration Amendment [Debating]
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October 13, 2009, 10:11:40 pm »
But there is no reason to get rid of the free move.
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