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Hatman
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Rumours!
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October 18, 2009, 11:29:04 am »
I've heard from numerous sources that Marokai is spreading vicious rumours about a possible LNF-RPP alliance.
The LNF refuses to united with any of the existing bourgeoisie parties, especially not a party that is currently harbouring the anti-christ, one "DWTL".
Marokai has been messaging numerous members of the party about this, and has left us all confuzzled as to what is going on.
So, what is going on?
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October 18, 2009, 11:32:14 am »
Let the bitchfest commence and let the blood spill!
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Rowan
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Re: Rumours!
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October 18, 2009, 11:34:54 am »
Hamilton is involved without a doubt.
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Senator Ben
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October 18, 2009, 11:34:59 am »
Fight! Fight! Fight!
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Quote from: Senator RowanBrandon on October 18, 2009, 11:34:54 am
Hamilton is involved without a doubt.
Wouldn't surprise me.
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October 18, 2009, 12:28:16 pm »
I am now taking bets. Who dun it?
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Sewer
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Quote from: GM Purple State on October 18, 2009, 12:28:16 pm
I am now taking bets. Who dun it?
dun what?
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Purple State
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Quote from: Sewer Socialist on October 18, 2009, 12:29:45 pm
Quote from: GM Purple State on October 18, 2009, 12:28:16 pm
I am now taking bets. Who dun it?
dun what?
Taking bets for that too.
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October 18, 2009, 12:37:13 pm »
I shall mention most of the details Earl leaves out, and really set the cat among the pigeons:
A shady but tempting deal offer, ostensibly from part of the RPP, to win our second preferences in exchange for giving Dwtl the shaft in the northeast, really exists.
While LNFer reactions vary from "just no" through "not enough" through "they ought to be saying this in public, not behind closed doors" to "fine with me if genuine. How can we be sure of that though?", it seems a consensus not to take the offer was emerging.
But know we also sort of wonder how much Marokai knows and who in the RPP(?) he knows it from.
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Snowguy716
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October 18, 2009, 12:54:09 pm »
Well, isn't this just cute.
I would hope that this thread wasn't an attempt to bring this to light before someone else did it for you.
If so, I am deeply ashamed of both the LNF and RPP.
If Lewis is telling the truth, then the RPP should be ashamed of themselves.
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October 18, 2009, 01:07:50 pm »
What is this party you speak of? The RPP?? There is no such party named RPP that I know of.
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Sewer
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Quote from: Devilman88 on October 18, 2009, 01:07:50 pm
What is this party you speak of?
The Angel Dusters.
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Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
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October 18, 2009, 01:13:22 pm »
Quote from: Snowguy716 on October 18, 2009, 12:54:09 pm
I would hope that this thread wasn't an attempt to bring this to light before someone else did it for you.
"Someone else" being?
(I'm not convinced Marokai knew all that
much
, btw.)
Note that "the LNF" means all the LNF. No shady backroom group exists within the LNF - the chair who received it broadcast it to all the other chairs simultaneously. (Every member is a chair, of course.
)
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Quote from: True Federalist on April 28, 2013, 01:25:07 am
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Snowguy716
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October 18, 2009, 01:17:42 pm »
Quote from: s.v. Hunds e.t.c. on October 18, 2009, 01:13:22 pm
Quote from: Snowguy716 on October 18, 2009, 12:54:09 pm
I would hope that this thread wasn't an attempt to bring this to light before someone else did it for you.
"Someone else" being?
(I'm not convinced Marokai knew all that
much
, btw.)
Note that "the LNF" means all the LNF. No shady backroom group exists within the LNF - the chair who received it broadcast it to all the other chairs simultaneously. (Every member is a chair, of course.
)
It's a common tactic. You know the sh**t is going to hit the fan... so you come out with it just before that to try and save some face.
The original post seemed rife with that tactic. Your post did not. Which is why I'm assuming you're telling the truth and that the LNF isn't to blame here.
Of course now that this has been laid out in the open, any LNF member who 2nd prefs the RPP is going to look suspicious.
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October 18, 2009, 01:18:55 pm »
I knew this was gonna end up bad.
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Sewer
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October 18, 2009, 01:20:09 pm »
Quote from: s.v. Hunds e.t.c. on October 18, 2009, 01:13:22 pm
Note that "the LNF" means all the LNF. No shady backroom group exists within the LNF - the chair who received it broadcast it to all the other chairs simultaneously. (Every member is a chair, of course.
)
True.
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Bacon King
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October 18, 2009, 01:34:06 pm »
Quote from: Senator RowanBrandon on October 18, 2009, 11:34:54 am
Hamilton is involved without a doubt.
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Vasall des Midas
Lewis Trondheim
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October 18, 2009, 01:56:22 pm »
Quote from: Snowguy716 on October 18, 2009, 01:17:42 pm
Quote from: s.v. Hunds e.t.c. on October 18, 2009, 01:13:22 pm
Quote from: Snowguy716 on October 18, 2009, 12:54:09 pm
I would hope that this thread wasn't an attempt to bring this to light before someone else did it for you.
"Someone else" being?
(I'm not convinced Marokai knew all that
much
, btw.)
Note that "the LNF" means all the LNF. No shady backroom group exists within the LNF - the chair who received it broadcast it to all the other chairs simultaneously. (Every member is a chair, of course.
)
It's a common tactic. You know the sh**t is going to hit the fan... so you come out with it just before that to try and save some face.
Yes, yes, I know what you meant.
Heck, I'm not beyond the suggestion that Marokai's vague threat helped me make up the last couple of percentage points of my mind. Which sort of leads into a "where do you draw the line" discussion.
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Of course now that this has been laid out in the open, any LNF member who 2nd prefs the RPP is going to look suspicious.
Not necessarily... that depends entirely on the fallout til election day.
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Quote from: True Federalist on April 28, 2013, 01:25:07 am
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Snowguy716
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Re: Rumours!
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October 18, 2009, 02:40:30 pm »
Well, I know there are informants and dirty work being done here. And threatening exposure is dirty as well.
But I believe it is the proper course of action. Backroom dealing is disgusting unless you intend to fully disclose it to everyone.
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Re: Rumours!
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October 18, 2009, 02:48:12 pm »
Someone who asked not to be named forwarded the information to a bunch of people. I find it unlikely the LNF would pursue such an alliance, but I guess I don't know for sure.
Though it
would
be interesting to know if DWTL saw the PMs in question. Unless he's in on it, I don't think he would like them very much.
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President Marokai
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Re: Rumours!
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October 18, 2009, 03:32:03 pm »
Well first of all they're hardly vicious rumors now, are they? I was approached last night by someone who shall remain nameless that informed me, in great detail of the desperate deal PiT was trying to make with the LNF.
Such things included throwing DWTL under the bus in the Northeast, defeating Hashemite and supporting Rocky instead, the support of Xahar in the Southeast, second preference support, among many other things. PiT was, according to my source, incredibly desperate and willing to make several offers to get his way.
I was also told Hamilton was involved. When I confronted PiT with this, he confirmed they were working together.
It struck me as odd not only because it reinforces the idea the PiT is someone who will do whatever it takes to win, but it seemed unusual for such a cutthroat deal to be offered to the LNF, a party that purportedly is in the game to
realize
that it's a game and not take things seriously. The PMs I sent to LNF members were simply to say things like "Remember why you exist." "Remember the message." "It is just a game, afterall." Etc.
How quickly PiT is willing to throw his own party members under the bus, not only in the Midwest, Northeast, and Southeast, just for his own gain, is disgusting. And they affect us all, and deserve our united opposition.
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Re: Rumours!
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October 18, 2009, 03:34:07 pm »
Let's see here. As is usually the case, I've been cued in with second-hand information from enough different sources now to get a decent picture of what's going on. I'm so far down the Atlasian grapevine it's not even funny.
It's fun to see some more of Hamilton's scheming, of course. I'm about 95% he's the driving force behind this as well as everything the PCP is doing these days. He's leading much of PiT's campaign, doing all the "zombie" and new member recruiting, leading the massive voter shifts to the Mideast to bolster Tmthforu94, and the voter shift to the Northeast, while also moving enough voters away from the Southeast that he leaves intraparty opponent NCYankee vulnerable. It seems now he's got a plan to ensure the defeat of intraparty rival DWTL (who if you look at the numbers won't win anyway) while also getting PiT into the Presidency! This definitely carries Hamilton's mark. Love it or hate it, the dude's a schemer.
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Senator Ben
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Re: Rumours!
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October 18, 2009, 03:34:55 pm »
I can't believe I'm the only competitive election PiT wasn't willing to compromise on
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I do not think Yankee i s vulnerable.
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Rowan
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October 18, 2009, 03:58:59 pm »
I would love to know what DWTL thinks about his own party members plotting to backstab him.
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