Civil War

[A18]

And it's bigger then that, the Republican party itself gave the orders to destroy Democratic voter registrations.

I hope that Kerry doesn't narrowly lose Nevada, or there will be civil war.

http://www.klastv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2432899&nav=168XS1G8

I am all for this idea.

[agcatter]

Republicans.  We are better armed.

[Sam Spade]

Republicans own the guns.  Democrats own all the lawyers.

The winner seems obvious to me.

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And it's bigger then that, the Republican party itself gave the orders to destroy Democratic voter registrations.

I hope that Kerry doesn't narrowly lose Nevada, or there will be civil war.

http://www.klastv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2432899&nav=168XS1G8

I am all for this idea.

So you are pro-election stealing?

[A18]

No, I'm pro- Civil War.

Now, if we have to steal an election in order to make it happen, the end justifies the means.

[J. J.]

The Republicans, just like the first time.  ;-)

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No, I'm pro- Civil War.

Now, if we have to steal an election in order to make it happen, the end justifies the means.

You're nuts.

[J. J.]

And it's bigger then that, the Republican party itself gave the orders to destroy Democratic voter registrations.

I hope that Kerry doesn't narrowly lose Nevada, or there will be civil war.

http://www.klastv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2432899&nav=168XS1G8

I am all for this idea.

The problem here is that those people complaining about it think that Republican Party and their employees should be required to help the Democrats conduct registration drives.

Stalin kinda thought the same thing about who should help the Communists.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

And it's bigger then that, the Republican party itself gave the orders to destroy Democratic voter registrations.

I hope that Kerry doesn't narrowly lose Nevada, or there will be civil war.

http://www.klastv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2432899&nav=168XS1G8

I am all for this idea.

The problem here is that those people complaining about it think that Republican Party and their employees should be required to help the Democrats conduct registration drives.

Stalin kinda thought the same thing about who should help the Communists.

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They took registrations from Democrats saying they'd be registered, and then shreaded them. That's both election stealing and illegal.  Thousands of Democrats who thought they were registered are now not.

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<< Gently suggests a nicer tone of voice in these discussions... >>

[Huckleberry Finn]

Republicans. They control the military.

[TheWildCard]

Republicans would have:

The N.R.A. Wackos
The Money (corporations)
The Military

The Democrats would have

Hollywood Propaganda
Some foreign support
and More Hippies than you can shake a peace sign at

I'd go with the Republicans though I think with some foreign support the Democrats would put up quite a fight. If they all don't move to France and Canada first.

And before anyone says anything I'm joking!

Seriously though, I'd hope everyone in this country would understand that Civil War would only lead to amazing casualties to solve an issue that can be easily be fought with media and the ballot box.

[A18]

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Excellent. We'll occupy the northeast Lincoln-style and force all the Democratic states to "reapply" for statehood.

Criteria would include ratifying a 1/5 acre of land to vote Constitutional Amendment.

[Alcon]

Libertarians.

[Huckleberry Finn]

Seriously though, I'd hope everyone in this country would understand that Civil War would only lead to amazing casualties to solve an issue that can be easily be fought with media and the ballot box.

Amen.

[A18]

Every country needs a revolution every couple hundred years just to keep things fresh.

[Erc]

You do realize that this is a joke, right?

Although I could go for some serious liberal-bashing about now...

On second thought, maybe not.  No matter who wins in the end, I'll be in MA on election day.  So I'd be first on the wall come the revolution...

[J-Mann]

I have a professor (a very intelligent and moderate one as well) who thinks that this nation is headed towards civil war.  Maybe not for several years, even decades, but we're headed for it.  Just look at the circumstances now: today both parties are discrediting one another, breaking into each other's headquarters and causing trouble, and shredding registrations.  What's to say that this problem won't grow uncontrollable within a few decades.  Certainly not the almighty "ballot box".  The sensible among us would take that route, but fewer people hold the vote in high regard.  And if the problem ever grows out of hand, the peaceniks better well realize that violent protests won't help them.  It'll be all-out hell.

[J. J.]

The problem here is that those people complaining about it think that Republican Party and their employees should be required to help the Democrats conduct registration drives.

Stalin kinda thought the same thing about who should help the Communists.

<< edited by the vorlon for good taste >>. . They took registrations from Democrats saying they'd be registered, and then shreaded them. That's both election stealing and illegal.  Thousands of Democrats who thought they were registered are now not.

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It's neither election stealing nor illegal.

I wholeheartedly defend the right of the Democratic Party not to be compelled to have to register Republicans.   No private group, which is what this was can, nor should be, compelled to register voters that they don't want to register.  Frankly, I defend your right, as a private citizen, not to register Republicans.

If this was a government body that refused to register eligible peaple in either party, I'd agree with you.  That didn't happen.

I believe is freedom, with competive parties.  It doesn't bother me that Democrats have registration drives, that they campaign, or that they advertize.  You seem to support one party subjugating the others.

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The problem here is that those people complaining about it think that Republican Party and their employees should be required to help the Democrats conduct registration drives.

Stalin kinda thought the same thing about who should help the Communists.

They took registrations from Democrats saying they'd be registered, and then shreaded them. That's both election stealing and illegal.  Thousands of Democrats who thought they were registered are now not.

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It's neither election stealing nor illegal.  You probably have to swear soooo much because you don't really understand the meaning of the terms "election stealing" or "illegal."

I wholeheartedly defend the right of the Democratic Party not to be compelled to have to register Republicans.   No private group, which is what this was can, nor should be, compelled to register voters that they don't want to register.  Frankly, I defend your right, as a private citizen, not to register Republicans.

If this was a government body that refused to register eligible peaple in either party, I'd agree with you.  That didn't happen.

I believe is freedom, with competive parties.  It doesn't bother me that Democrats have registration drives, that they campaign, or that they advertize.  You seem to support one party subjugating the others.

It's illegal in both Nevada and Oregon. They are required to return any completed voter registrations to the state. In addition, they fraudulantly used the name of a non-partisan voter registration organization. If you don't see a problem there, << edited by the vorlon for good taste >>.

You make me so sick, you election stealing << edited by the vorlon for good taste >>.

JFern...

Please, er, well, "moderate" your language a tad?

Passions run high in any election and there ceratinly seems to be a bi-partisan consensus to bend/break the rules this year.  But let's tone it down just a notch ok...?

Thanks !

~~The Vorlon~~

[J-Mann]

jfern's own reactions (edited by Vorlon for good taste!) help to prove my point.  Good and decent people are getting too wild, too partisan, and too in-your-face.  Not to mention the radical posts that brought him to use such language.  If this is the way the civil discussion is heading, we'd best be prepared for the worst.

[J. J.]

It's illegal in both Nevada and Oregon. They are required to return any completed voter registrations to the state. In addition, they fraudulantly used the name of a non-partisan voter registration organization. If you don't see a problem there, << edited by the vorlon for good taste >>.

You make me so sick, you election stealing << edited by the vorlon for good taste >>.

The only thing that ever has been posted as being illegal is a government agency refusing or altering the forms.  This isn't a government agency; if it were, I'd be agreeing with you.

Attempts to impose one party rule, like the old Soviet Union make me sick, and they should sicken everyone that believes in a multiparty democracy (small "d").  No political party can, or should , be compelled to aid the other.

[Redefeatbush04]

I voted republicans, but after further thought I realized that the democrats would have more foreign allies

[Shira]

A cold war already in progress.

I did not vote.

[PBrunsel]

The Republicans, just like the first time.  ;-)

But the Democrats would win the peace, just like last time.

[bgwah]

The United States just needs to be split up into several different nations.