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politicaladdict
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Why wait till 2013 to enact public-option?
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October 26, 2009, 07:44:51 pm »
Why if democrats pass the health bill, are they gonna wait till 2013 to enact it?
Is it because that's when right after Obama might get re-elected before disaster hits in?
I'm curious!
Why don't they just reform the useless medicaid instead taking more control of the economy?
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Re: Why wait till 2013 to enact public-option?
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October 26, 2009, 08:04:10 pm »
Yes, we secretly
know
it's going to fail, that's why we're waiting.
Besides, if the Democrats were smart, they'd get benefits rolling before the 2010 elections. Unfortunately, they A) Don't have the courage to look like they're trying to do it for political benefit, and B) Are being blocked by entrenched interests that are banking on Republicans stiffening their opposition and watering down and/or eliminating the program entirely before it gets off the ground.
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Re: Why wait till 2013 to enact public-option?
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October 26, 2009, 08:09:00 pm »
Because if the public option miserably fails, they don't want it to impact 2012.
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Edu
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Re: Why wait till 2013 to enact public-option?
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October 26, 2009, 08:20:30 pm »
Welcome back politicaladdict, you were sorely missed.
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politicaladdict
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Re: Why wait till 2013 to enact public-option?
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October 26, 2009, 08:27:17 pm »
Quote from: Sen. Marokai Blue, PPT on October 26, 2009, 08:04:10 pm
Yes, we secretly
know
it's going to fail, that's why we're waiting.
Besides, if the Democrats were smart, they'd get benefits rolling before the 2010 elections. Unfortunately, they A) Don't have the courage to look like they're trying to do it for political benefit, and B) Are being blocked by entrenched interests that are banking on Republicans stiffening their opposition and watering down and/or eliminating the program entirely before it gets off the ground.
That's the problem. Democrats are actually clever and know what this crap would do and know it would probably somehow effect Obama's possible re-election.
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politicaladdict
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Re: Why wait till 2013 to enact public-option?
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October 26, 2009, 08:28:16 pm »
Quote from: Edu on October 26, 2009, 08:20:30 pm
Welcome back politicaladdict, you were sorely missed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah!
Let's just stick to asking questions about this issue!
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Edu
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Re: Why wait till 2013 to enact public-option?
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October 26, 2009, 08:38:25 pm »
Quote from: politicaladdict on October 26, 2009, 08:28:16 pm
Quote from: Edu on October 26, 2009, 08:20:30 pm
Welcome back politicaladdict, you were sorely missed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah!
Let's just stick to asking questions about this issue!
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Re: Why wait till 2013 to enact public-option?
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October 26, 2009, 08:44:36 pm »
Quote from: politicaladdict on October 26, 2009, 08:27:17 pm
Quote from: Sen. Marokai Blue, PPT on October 26, 2009, 08:04:10 pm
Yes, we secretly
know
it's going to fail, that's why we're waiting.
Besides, if the Democrats were smart, they'd get benefits rolling before the 2010 elections. Unfortunately, they A) Don't have the courage to look like they're trying to do it for political benefit, and B) Are being blocked by entrenched interests that are banking on Republicans stiffening their opposition and watering down and/or eliminating the program entirely before it gets off the ground.
That's the problem. Democrats are actually clever and know what this crap would do and know it would probably somehow effect Obama's possible re-election.
Then why would they want to do it?
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politicaladdict
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Re: Why wait till 2013 to enact public-option?
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October 26, 2009, 08:53:53 pm »
Quote from: Τhe Statist Candidate on October 26, 2009, 08:44:36 pm
Quote from: politicaladdict on October 26, 2009, 08:27:17 pm
Quote from: Sen. Marokai Blue, PPT on October 26, 2009, 08:04:10 pm
Yes, we secretly
know
it's going to fail, that's why we're waiting.
Besides, if the Democrats were smart, they'd get benefits rolling before the 2010 elections. Unfortunately, they A) Don't have the courage to look like they're trying to do it for political benefit, and B) Are being blocked by entrenched interests that are banking on Republicans stiffening their opposition and watering down and/or eliminating the program entirely before it gets off the ground.
That's the problem. Democrats are actually clever and know what this crap would do and know it would probably somehow effect Obama's possible re-election.
Then why would they want to do it?
More gov control and they think they can get by with it, and probably will.
Look what happen when medicaid passed, and now it's going bankrupt. Some people are still stupid and don't pay attention to it. Idiots want to just listen to what liberals say when they hear public-option and totally forget about reforming mediciad.
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Re: Why wait till 2013 to enact public-option?
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October 28, 2009, 01:41:33 am »
Mostly because a public option needs a beaurocratic infrastructure that doesn't exist yet. The public option is not just an add-on to an already existing program like Medicare. The thing has to get startup funds from making cuts to Medicare Advantage plans and levying taxes on Cadilac plans. Beurocrats need to set up the insurance exchanges, create and administer the program, make initial bargaining deals with providers and then market the plan and begin to collect premiums and create databses for patient records, ect. ect. ect.
A program this large, with this many moving parts that have to be developed in sequence, doesn't just appear out of thin air.
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Re: Why wait till 2013 to enact public-option?
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October 28, 2009, 02:55:38 pm »
Quote from: anvikshiki on October 28, 2009, 01:41:33 am
Mostly because a public option needs a beaurocratic infrastructure that doesn't exist yet. The public option is not just an add-on to an already existing program like Medicare. The thing has to get startup funds from making cuts to Medicare Advantage plans and levying taxes on Cadilac plans. Beurocrats need to set up the insurance exchanges, create and administer the program, make initial bargaining deals with providers and then market the plan and begin to collect premiums and create databses for patient records, ect. ect. ect.
A program this large, with this many moving parts that have to be developed in sequence, doesn't just appear out of thin air.
Anvik, sorry -- no. That whole "it's too complex and large" is not nearly as compelling an argument as the "them liberals wanna destroy Amurrica".
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