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« on: October 17, 2004, 02:23:47 AM »
No.

Neocons keep telling us that terrorists hate us because we're free. Okay, then if we destroy our freedoms because of the terrorists then we cave into them. They win. Anyone who supports censorship in wartime is therefore helping the  enemy and should be treated as such.
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2004, 02:49:20 AM »
You do what you have to do to win.  We can talk about fancy principals after the war, for now survival trumps all else.
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2004, 03:07:48 AM »
the problem is, it's a never ending war, pretty much.

Religious terrorists have never been defeated. Ever. Unless the change comes from the place that the terrorists originate-no bomb can stop religious terrorism.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2004, 03:16:26 AM »
No. I believe in all the articles of the Constitutioon, no matter what day it is.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2004, 07:43:50 AM »
Depends...if we're in for a fight for our lives, then you sometimes have to by-pass a fancy principle...but otherwise, no. As far as the war on terrorism is concerned, no.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2004, 02:30:17 PM »
What harm can come from speaking your mind?
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2004, 02:32:56 PM »
Quote from: UAPE SG exnaderite on October 17, 2004, 02:23:47 AM
No.

Neocons keep telling us that terrorists hate us because we're free. Okay, then if we destroy our freedoms because of the terrorists then we cave into them. They win. Anyone who supports censorship in wartime is therefore helping the  enemy and should be treated as such.

When the government tells you to shut the hell up, it's called censorship. When I tell you to shut the hell up, it's called an argument.

And the anti-war kooks need to shut the hell up.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2004, 02:37:24 PM »
It depends on the circumstances
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2004, 03:33:45 PM »
Truly, it does depend.
Reporting on the operational plans of forces engaged in the fighting is clearly something that should be censored during a war.
The same goes with detail on how various pieces of military hardware work.

Beyond that, I can't see any justification for censorship, but I haven't seen any indications that we have any censorship in areas outside of the areas I find it suitable in our current "war" on terrorism or in the War in Iraq.

In any case, I belive that the Pentagon Papers decision still holds, so the prospect of censorship laws in the US is rather remote at present.
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2004, 05:59:19 PM »
Quote from: Philip on October 17, 2004, 02:32:56 PM
Quote from: UAPE SG exnaderite on October 17, 2004, 02:23:47 AM
No.

Neocons keep telling us that terrorists hate us because we're free. Okay, then if we destroy our freedoms because of the terrorists then we cave into them. They win. Anyone who supports censorship in wartime is therefore helping the  enemy and should be treated as such.

When the government tells you to shut the hell up, it's called censorship. When I tell you to shut the hell up, it's called an argument.

And the anti-war kooks need to shut the hell up.

Excellent point Uape sg exnaderite, and notice how Phillip could not think of a responce. His entire arguement is: "shut the hell up"
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2004, 06:05:55 PM »
Quote from: Philip on October 17, 2004, 02:32:56 PM
Quote from: UAPE SG exnaderite on October 17, 2004, 02:23:47 AM
No.

Neocons keep telling us that terrorists hate us because we're free. Okay, then if we destroy our freedoms because of the terrorists then we cave into them. They win. Anyone who supports censorship in wartime is therefore helping the  enemy and should be treated as such.

When the government tells you to shut the hell up, it's called censorship. When I tell you to shut the hell up, it's called an argument.

And the anti-war kooks need to shut the hell up.

BLOW ME!
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2004, 06:08:08 PM »
Damn Irish.

Quote from: Redefeatbush04 on October 17, 2004, 05:59:19 PM
Quote from: Philip on October 17, 2004, 02:32:56 PM
Quote from: UAPE SG exnaderite on October 17, 2004, 02:23:47 AM
No.

Neocons keep telling us that terrorists hate us because we're free. Okay, then if we destroy our freedoms because of the terrorists then we cave into them. They win. Anyone who supports censorship in wartime is therefore helping the  enemy and should be treated as such.

When the government tells you to shut the hell up, it's called censorship. When I tell you to shut the hell up, it's called an argument.

And the anti-war kooks need to shut the hell up.

Excellent point Uape sg exnaderite, and notice how Phillip could not think of a responce. His entire arguement is: "shut the hell up"

I'm not for war censorship. As for me calling kook war protesters idiots, that I'm for.
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2004, 06:12:15 PM »
sure your not flip-flopping?
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2004, 06:16:23 PM »
I voted yes. When a nation is fighting its freedom or  independence censorship should be allowed. WWII comes to mind.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2004, 06:21:12 PM »
Depends on the censorship.  Highly sensitive documents and such like material should definitely be censored, since their release could lead to compromised intelligence or security.  Anything that could give the enemy an advantage should be censored too.  However, I don't believe that citizens with no access to any sensitive information should be censored.  If you're fighting for freedom, what message does it send to abridge freedom in the process?
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2004, 06:41:42 PM »
« Edited: October 17, 2004, 06:52:05 PM by John Dibble »
Opinions and the release of battle results is not something to be censored. Tactical information and battle plans should be censored, at least to a degree, because that is a danger to the troops. Imagine, for instance, if the press reported in advance out plans in WWII on where we were going to land on D-Day! The Nazis would have slaughtered us.

The saying "Loose lips might sink ships" is still applicable today.
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2004, 06:49:14 PM »
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

-----Ben Franklin
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2004, 02:57:12 PM »
No!!!!

Censorship never!

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES!
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2004, 04:58:33 AM »
I'm talking about censorship in the newspapers. Of course the plan for D-Day should be secret.
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